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i stopped caring about likes especially since i noticed really good renders that seemed to not get any appreciation at all possibly because of genre- i noticed that some war scenes or military type renders that were awesome and someone really worked hard at got nothing, while half baked legs spread bikini model with bad lighting got way more than what they were worth
the point is most people visiting the gallerie are not going to tap or comment on a render and if they do they care little about the renders, lighting and poses- they just tap whatever they are subjectively interested in
When I browse the galleries, I noticed they've super slow to load. I have a pretty fast internet connection, and no problems with any other site, so it's definitely the galleries that lag. That often discourages me from bothering. Another issue is that if you scroll down, sometimes the bottom colour bar will just "pop" up and cover everything, which is annoying.
I don't really consider what's trending... mostly I'm just skimming the galleries to see how or if people are using my products, since that's feedback in a way on whether stuff isn't rendering as intended, or how it looks in alternative lighting situations, if there are use cases I should be supporting that are popular, etc, etc.
I sort of noticed it starting about 2 years ago, it seems to have been a slow decline, but accelerated over the last 6 months to a year. I thought it was just that the types of images I like to make had completely fallen out of favor. I'm kind of amazed that it has happened to you, IMHO your work is some of the best in the galleries here!
Like Laurie (AllenArt) noted, Kapersky was griping every time I did something on the gallery, so it got very unpleasant to look at much on the gallery here, so I sort of stopped looking on a regular basis (it's better now). This may well have had the same effect on many other people too. Also, like Laurie noted, the time of year (and holidays) make a difference as well. Anytime when people might be off doing something else I've noticed a drop in gallery activity.
Also as noted several times in posts above, often the sales can take up quite a bit of time too, even though I don't buy a lot. When there is a sale I'm interested in, doing the cart load, dump, load, dump, until you get the magic perfect combination can be rather time consuming and take away from doing other things.
I get the best responses from DA now, and seem to be able to get a good feel for how "good" an image might be when I post there. Since I'm always trying to improve my "art" (the term "art" being used very loosely), the only real way I have to easily do that is through gallery responses (in RL only my wife sees my "art", and of course she always like my images). Comments and likes are very helpful, but knowing the number of views an image gets is a huge plus as well (something the gallery here doesn't have). It does seem that there are very different audiences here, at DA, and at Rendo. So when possible, I will post an image all three places. For example, an image that was about average here, is my second most popular on DA. Rendo's galleries also seem to be not as busy as they once were, so it may just be a sign of the times (DA could be that way too, I'm fairly new there).
I'm a teacher. September happened. Art stopped.
Not sure how much student presence is on the galleries, but that perhaps could be some of it? Also, I've been spending much less time online in general because I live in the US and I'm tired of being bombarded with political opinions/ads everywhere I go.
#1 - I just glanced at your gallery and I disagree -- I think you do very nice portrait work! I used to do mostly single-character/portrait images, primarily because that's where my art started (D&D character art), and because my GPU couldn't handle more than 1 character. Since building my new rig, I've tried to stretch out into more dynamic work -- action scenes and/or images with more than 1 figure. Since then, I've my noticed that my "viewership" has increased.
#2 - I think most stores now make sales a psychological game. Like gambling. "Is this the best price? Should I wait?" That sense of urgency is what sells stuff. I personally hate that there aren't sale-ending dates posted on prices. I can generally figure it out by how long it takes for the sale banners to slide off the main store page, but it's still a royal pain to keep track of when there are 5 sales going at once. I don't have the time to shop daily. I literally waited until the last weekend of this sale to make one massive purchase, knowing I'd miss daily sale incentives, because I just don't have the patience for the sale game anymore.
#3 and #4 - addressed in my first sentence. Agreed.
#5 - Yeah, there are lots of other places to connect with artists. I tend to post to deviantArt most often. I have more community involvement on the galleries there, mostly because I've been there forever.
I don't mind that people seek validation for their art. I do, however, tend to tune out when the same artist posts seven slightly-different angles of the exact, same scene. I really wish people wouldn't do that, because I think it's the biggest reason I stay away from galleries. I subscribe to a few DAZ/Poser groups on dA and see most of what I want that way.
Maybe the appeal of seeing good 3D art is fading a bit as more people are able to create impressive works? I've noticed it myself on deviantArt, many of the comments I get aren't as descriptive as they used to be. I still appreciate every one of course, but I'm not able to have conversations with commenters like I used to; they say "nice" and I say "thank you" and that's about it.
I did start posting my art to Facebook, which turned out to REALLY be a two-edged sword. It's great when your picture gets shared to a large art group and many people like, favorite, and share it. It's not so great when it subsequently gets shared by people who completely misinterpret the art and the next thing you know, you're reading comments from racists thanking you for standing up to evil white people or those who see a sex act in everything. :|
I tend to forget to post in the gallery often. I also tend to forget to look, although when I do post there I try and go through several pages and comment and like on stuff. For me, a lot of it is a lack of time, I have a hard time keeping up at Deviant Art and a couple other places I post so adding the galleries here to the list tends to take a back seat. And I like the give and take I get on Deviant Art and Renderosity galleries, there just isn't that much of it here in the gallery.
I have noticed that commenting has slowed down a bit in the forums as well. So maybe that contributes to the lack in the galleries as well.
I feel ya. Before the new PC, I was "opimizing" every texture (which didn't always look so optimal) and rendering in layers. (LOTS of layers.) Alas, I've worked so many hours to pay for my new render beast, I don't have much time to play with it!! Anyway, I still love a good portrait. When purchasing items, I always look at the gallery links (thank you, Daz Deals plugin!) to see what actual users have done with a product. It amazes me how much variety one can get from a single character. I think that's what draws me into the gallery more than anything else.
thats a fair statement. The more Daz has become load and go the harder it is to tell what was worked and what was just loaded and then the user hits the "Make Art Button." As I've come to call it.
It's gotten to the point where you can load the prop, the pose, or the the pose for the prop, the clothing, the hair, and everything else, all with presets, click the preset, and go... The pose is done for you. The lighting is done for you. The clothing is done, the hair preset is clicked... So really all you did was load up a bunch of stuff and clicked a few buttons. Nothing was made with your heart. Everything was made with your wallet.... some assets offer ALL that in one go, including camera presets... So.. Basically you're paying to render someone elses art and the privilege of calling yourself a 3D artist, when your not. When the reality is, You just happen to have a computer strong enough to render someone elses 3D Art and a wallet big enough to pay for it. I know thats an over simplified version of it.. But is it really?
I usually only post portraits in the gallery, and only when I really, really showcase the features well. I use that to help PAs on the product page, because I get enough likes that it's often in the top 9 renders of a figure. We also have a thread over in the Art Studio where members post their top 10 favorite renders of theirs (and you change your list as often as you want. Then you tell us your list has changed and we go look at your newest one.) I tend to just go to members galleries who are participating in that thread, due to learning a new program (Moho 12 Pro) Artists do get busy with Life and new tools :)
'Likes' and 'friends' on online platforms should be seen as what they are - about as insignificant as it is possible to be without actually being totally insignificant. They are binary, on or off, no shades or nuance, no need for considered input or thought, the work of a fraction of a second, the twitch of a finger. They are an insidiously destructive concept if we worry when we don't get them. Ultimately, making 'art' only to be validated by the 'likes' is a fool's errand - it's too personal for that. Make it because it pleases you to do so (unless you are getting paid to do it, which can alter the dynamic obviously).
Give me one constructive criticism over a million 'likes' any day.
Exactly.
Yes, it's an enormously oversimplified version of it. What you're saying is that 'photography' is a meaningless skill-set. Because even if all you do is use presets, there's skill and taste shown in how you combine all of the assets you list above, and they are pretty much NEVER sold all in one package. Some might sell poses and a location -- but not the characters, clothing, hair. Some might sell a location and camera angles and lights... but not the poses and characters and clothing and hair. I use mostly presets and they all tend to be from different packages. And, as a user of mostly presets I can tell you that there's not much in terms of 'camera angles' out there. Yet.... camera work is almost the entirety of what a real-life photographer (who isn't working in a studio) brings to their art.
And yes, I'm well aware that what I mostly have is a wallet. Believe me, I know. Some days I tell myself it's like having a really nice DSLR camera and an owned copy of Photoshop. But the rest of the time, well, I remind myself that most people would probably think like you if they actually watched me work, so I don't dare walk around presenting myself as anything like an artist.
But you know what? Even when all I'm doing is mix-and-matching transfigured dollar bills from my wallet, I'm doing it to make something I love. If that isn't 'from my heart' I don't know what would be.
"What's rendering like?"
I visit the galleries frequently, but not regularly. But, like Snow Sultan, I post for interaction, not simply likes. The DAZ gallery format is cramped and it's too easy to let something slide by. To Angel - Wings original concern, I don't think anything has changed, what you've noticed has been happening periodically since I first came on in 2006. What trend I do see more is an increase in the point and click set. People asking for products that, IMO, are simple tweaks (like poses) that one does with every image. Perhaps that same mindset is producing an overload of similar imagery.
Just to be clear, that wasn't what I was suggesting. I was just saying that we're seeing much more higher-quality 3D art because the products have gotten better, so maybe viewers aren't as easily impressed as they used to be.
The "Make Art Button" almost always makes mediocre art. When I get serious about making a complicated image, it practically takes over my life and I spend anywhere from a week to a month on a single image. In another thread, someone said that a image's postwork probably took the artist 30 minutes. Psh, I spend 30 minutes just staring at the render and placing Photoshop sticky notes describing the postwork I actually need to do when I'm ready.
Stagnation. If one does not change or improve, the viewer will tired of seeing the same old thing.
LOL, I almost spit out my coffee laughing when I read that. Thanks for making my morning!