Is Look at my hair useful?

I've had this in my cart for ages.  Just wondering how useful it is. I am wondering if it can offer, say, more realistic beards on older figures? How resource intensive is it? worse than fibermesh hair?

Any info appreciated.

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  • KitsumoKitsumo Posts: 1,221

    I've been wondering the same thing. I'm interested in seeing what owners have to say. When I look at the product page, the vast majority of the gallery renders are animals, very few humans. That's what has me worried, it looks great for animals, but I don't see anyone using it for people very often.

  • That't my concern as well--that for humans it may not be as useful. I wish daz had ratings/comments on their products.

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,316

    It was built for 3DLight and is very useful if you can get it to work on your rig. The free player can load and use any of the presets that are out there (some of which come with various figures (animals and humans) which were released before everything became Iray) and there are quite a lot of them. But if you want to try to build your own it will take the full version and it will take some work. 

    You might want to check the www.furrythings.com website and see if there are any presets you can use, download the player and see whether it will run for you. I've found the plugin to be very touchy. Has run without issues on one of my older computers, and wouldn't run at all on the next one.

    I've found it far more useful for fur than human hair, but ymmv.

     

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,723
    edited September 2018

    Honestly, not much has shown up in the DAZ Store or as freebies from that program. They've talked of making an easier to use version 2 but it hasn't materialized. Most of the fibre hair you see produced in the DAZ Store is produced via ZBrush's tools is what the PAs making their fibre hair products have said.

    If you buy some of AM's animal models that have LAMH included than what is useful is the LAMH Caytalyst so you can render those LAMH animals in iRay easily.

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  • Thanks for all the information. It helped me make my decision.

  • I have trouble with it I’m afraid. My machine crashes when I try to use it

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,316

    My last machine couldn't use it. The one before could. This one can, but it's touchy. But it goes a long way when you need something furry.

  • RedzRedz Posts: 1,459

    I use it to make human hair all the time, but would say it’s definitely not a simple or easy process. The animal presets are amazing IMO and make all the difference when it comes to realism. 

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    It's just about the only game in town for making hair and fur, except for using Zbrush or Modo to make fibermesh.

    That said, one reason you don't see a lot of human hair is that the thing is _incredibly_ fussy to use, and there are all sorts of 'oh don't do that, it'll crash' sorts of things in it. I've been hoping for an update for the past few years, but at this point I pretty much have to conclude there isn't going to be one.

    Now I have Zbrush, so if I really want to make hair, I'll use that.

     

  • deathbycanondeathbycanon Posts: 1,227
    edited September 2018

    Some days it works without a hitch and days like today...... I won't even tell yoy how many times it crashed my system today doing this one.... That said I still love what it does enough to put up with it.  

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  • WinterMoonWinterMoon Posts: 2,015

    I got it when it was on sale (this Monday?), because I love AM's fluffy animals. But I can't figure out how it works. I've tried rendering the Wolf 2.0 with the LAMH preset, and it renders as... well, bald. So how do I turn LAMH on?

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,723
    TigerAnne said:

    I got it when it was on sale (this Monday?), because I love AM's fluffy animals. But I can't figure out how it works. I've tried rendering the Wolf 2.0 with the LAMH preset, and it renders as... well, bald. So how do I turn LAMH on?

    Rendering in iRay requires that you pose the scene how you want it, export the LAMD fur as posed as obj file, reimport as obj file, texture it as iRay fur, and then render it. It takes quite a while to do all that and you'll be lucky if it doesn't crash DAZ.

    The new way is to buy the LAMH catalyzer product & load the new LAMH catalyzer fur presets & render directly in iRay. It is much faster & much less prone to crash DAZ. However, not all AM animals have LAMH Catalyzer presets yet and there is no converter from LAMH to LAMH Catalyzer format and you have not why of creating your own LAMH catalyzer presets, only Alessandro & Kendall have the tools to make LAMH Catalyzer Presets.

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,039
    Redz said:

    I use it to make human hair all the time, but would say it’s definitely not a simple or easy process. The animal presets are amazing IMO and make all the difference when it comes to realism. 

    Redz hair is amazing. I bet if she put her mind to it, she could make a wonderful animal pelt.

  • WinterMoonWinterMoon Posts: 2,015

    The new way is to buy the LAMH catalyzer product & load the new LAMH catalyzer fur presets & render directly in iRay. It is much faster & much less prone to crash DAZ. However, not all AM animals have LAMH Catalyzer presets yet and there is no converter from LAMH to LAMH Catalyzer format and you have not why of creating your own LAMH catalyzer presets, only Alessandro & Kendall have the tools to make LAMH Catalyzer Presets.

    The wolves and thylacines, which are the only two AM animals I have yet, both have catalyzer groups under "Iray figures," (and LAMH groups under "LAMH figures,") so they should be ready to render in Iray, shouldn't they? Is this the catalyzer I need? https://www.daz3d.com/lamh-2-iray-catalyzer

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,343
    RKane_1 said:
    Redz said:

    I use it to make human hair all the time, but would say it’s definitely not a simple or easy process. The animal presets are amazing IMO and make all the difference when it comes to realism. 

    Redz hair is amazing. I bet if she put her mind to it, she could make a wonderful animal pelt.

    Yup, I wrote her on 'Rosity thinking she was an expert on ZBrush's fiber hair but NOPE she uses LAMH to create all of her stuff.  I was floored because her facial and body hair products are so amazing and realistic.  

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,757
    TigerAnne said:

    The new way is to buy the LAMH catalyzer product & load the new LAMH catalyzer fur presets & render directly in iRay. It is much faster & much less prone to crash DAZ. However, not all AM animals have LAMH Catalyzer presets yet and there is no converter from LAMH to LAMH Catalyzer format and you have not why of creating your own LAMH catalyzer presets, only Alessandro & Kendall have the tools to make LAMH Catalyzer Presets.

    The wolves and thylacines, which are the only two AM animals I have yet, both have catalyzer groups under "Iray figures," (and LAMH groups under "LAMH figures,") so they should be ready to render in Iray, shouldn't they? Is this the catalyzer I need? https://www.daz3d.com/lamh-2-iray-catalyzer

    Yes this is the product.

  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,212
    edited September 2018
    TigerAnne said:

    The new way is to buy the LAMH catalyzer product & load the new LAMH catalyzer fur presets & render directly in iRay. It is much faster & much less prone to crash DAZ. However, not all AM animals have LAMH Catalyzer presets yet and there is no converter from LAMH to LAMH Catalyzer format and you have not why of creating your own LAMH catalyzer presets, only Alessandro & Kendall have the tools to make LAMH Catalyzer Presets.

    The wolves and thylacines, which are the only two AM animals I have yet, both have catalyzer groups under "Iray figures," (and LAMH groups under "LAMH figures,") so they should be ready to render in Iray, shouldn't they? Is this the catalyzer I need? https://www.daz3d.com/lamh-2-iray-catalyzer

    The LAMH  figures need the LAMH Player or the full LAMH program but it only renders in 3Delight. To get the fur to render in Iray requires the fur to be converted to Fibre Hair and the figure saved with the Fibre Hair and then loaded into your scene.  The Catalyzer was brought out with Catalyzer figures with LAMH hair attached which works in Iray but requires the Render Button in the Catalyzer window to be used and not the Studio Render button.

    Two Catalyzer Wolves in this one.

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    One Calalyzer Bison in this one.

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  • GreymomGreymom Posts: 1,139
    RAMWolff said:
    RKane_1 said:
    Redz said:

    I use it to make human hair all the time, but would say it’s definitely not a simple or easy process. The animal presets are amazing IMO and make all the difference when it comes to realism. 

    Redz hair is amazing. I bet if she put her mind to it, she could make a wonderful animal pelt.

    Yup, I wrote her on 'Rosity thinking she was an expert on ZBrush's fiber hair but NOPE she uses LAMH to create all of her stuff.  I was floored because her facial and body hair products are so amazing and realistic.  

    Now that is very interesting - I also assumed that she used ZBrush!   This gives me even more encouragement to learn to work with LAMH!

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,343
    Greymom said:
    RAMWolff said:
    RKane_1 said:
    Redz said:

    I use it to make human hair all the time, but would say it’s definitely not a simple or easy process. The animal presets are amazing IMO and make all the difference when it comes to realism. 

    Redz hair is amazing. I bet if she put her mind to it, she could make a wonderful animal pelt.

    Yup, I wrote her on 'Rosity thinking she was an expert on ZBrush's fiber hair but NOPE she uses LAMH to create all of her stuff.  I was floored because her facial and body hair products are so amazing and realistic.  

    Now that is very interesting - I also assumed that she used ZBrush!   This gives me even more encouragement to learn to work with LAMH!

    I was surprised too to be honest.  I knew that LAMH was good but no, it's fantastic for those that know how to use it.  I just need to know if I have the most current version of the PDF and if there are vid tutorials out there for beginners.  I used it while back and got some pretty nice results from it but it's easily been 2 years or more... don't remember crap!  LOL 

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,711

    IMO, it's only useful in it's current form for animal fur type things. I spend a few weeks trying to make a human hair with it, had no luck, lots of frustration. The brush system fought me every step of the way lol.

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