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  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,603

    I don't get on with dForce, but I look at it this way, "between DRM and dForce, I know which one I'd rather have".

    wink 

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,316

    I've ended up with a lot of dForce clothing items from the last couple of years of Pro bundles, and picked up a couple of others which were particularly tempting. But havn't ever tried to use a simulation with any of it. 

    Most of the stuff from here works just fine as rigged items for standing or walking poses. Some of the stuff from Rendo doesn't have the rigging that DAZ includes for shifting things like moving a skirt just a bit to avoid poke-through.

  • Aave NainenAave Nainen Posts: 1,108
    RAMWolff said:

    Looks great.  LOVE that Teddy Bear... who made that one if you know?  

    This is one of Sloshwerks stuffies with Destiny's Garden fur shader.

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    Aave Nainen said:
    maikdecker said:
    Carola O said:

    As the PA who created those Matching Morphs for MFD I too thought it would be great to offer ADD-ON draped morph packages for my dForce products, sadly Daz is not willing to allow for ADD-ONS of that sort and would want any such morphs to be included in the main product package.  Creating those draped morphs is a time consuming, mind numbing process that of course I would like to be compensated for :P.  Keep an eye out over the next few weeks on Google search as I may just decide to set up an independent site (currently working on) where I can offer not only draped morph packs, texture packs etc. for my Daz store content and last but not least......wonderful sets that for one reason or another are not going to be in my shop here at Daz. Like this one shown her

    I love those packs where the clothes are made to fit the poses. So easy to use.  And this dforce sweater and it's texture is to die for!! Will keep an eye out!

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,101
    edited September 2018

    only thing I like about Dforce over VWD (besides price wink of course) is you can use it to create morphs as it retains the mesh, the attenuate function in morphloader makes this particularly useful as can isolate clothing body parts for partial drapes too, before I had to resort to Poser or Carrara bullet to do this and lots of fluffing around, for actual cloth animation I prefer VWD which I can use  in Carrara as well as DAZ studio, I often cut stuff up to fit if needed  as admittedly it does have limitations but my dforce animations outright explode and often crash my 980ti driver.

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  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    th3Digit said:

    only thing I like about Dforce over VWD (besides price wink of course) is you can use it to create morphs as it retains the mesh, the attenuate function in morphloader makes this particularly useful as can isolate clothing body parts for partial drapes too, before I had to resort to Poser or Carrara bullet to do this and lots of fluffing around, for actual cloth animation I prefer VWD which I can use  in Carrara as well as DAZ studio, I often cut stuff up to fit if needed  as admittedly it does have limitations but my dforce animations outright explode and often crash my 980ti driver.

    Sorry, what is VWD?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,101
    sapat said:
    th3Digit said:

    only thing I like about Dforce over VWD (besides price wink of course) is you can use it to create morphs as it retains the mesh, the attenuate function in morphloader makes this particularly useful as can isolate clothing body parts for partial drapes too, before I had to resort to Poser or Carrara bullet to do this and lots of fluffing around, for actual cloth animation I prefer VWD which I can use  in Carrara as well as DAZ studio, I often cut stuff up to fit if needed  as admittedly it does have limitations but my dforce animations outright explode and often crash my 980ti driver.

    Sorry, what is VWD?

    Virtual World Dynamics

    a plugin and cloth system available at Renderosity 

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    th3Digit said:
    sapat said:
    th3Digit said:

    only thing I like about Dforce over VWD (besides price wink of course) is you can use it to create morphs as it retains the mesh, the attenuate function in morphloader makes this particularly useful as can isolate clothing body parts for partial drapes too, before I had to resort to Poser or Carrara bullet to do this and lots of fluffing around, for actual cloth animation I prefer VWD which I can use  in Carrara as well as DAZ studio, I often cut stuff up to fit if needed  as admittedly it does have limitations but my dforce animations outright explode and often crash my 980ti driver.

    Sorry, what is VWD?

    Virtual World Dynamics

    a plugin and cloth system available at Renderosity 

    Oh, ok, thanks!  Guess I been living in a cave!

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,343
    Aave Nainen said:
    RAMWolff said:

    Looks great.  LOVE that Teddy Bear... who made that one if you know?  

    This is one of Sloshwerks stuffies with Destiny's Garden fur shader.

    Thank you!  I think I have that ... maybe... lol 

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    Aave Nainen said:
    RAMWolff said:

    Looks great.  LOVE that Teddy Bear... who made that one if you know?  

    This is one of Sloshwerks stuffies with Destiny's Garden fur shader.

    I guess the stuffies aren't in the store anymore??  I searched all Sloshwerks prodcuts and nothing.  I already own the Iray fur and leather shaders by Destiny's Garden.

  • BlueIreneBlueIrene Posts: 1,318
    edited September 2018
    sapat said:
    Aave Nainen said:
    RAMWolff said:

    Looks great.  LOVE that Teddy Bear... who made that one if you know?  

    This is one of Sloshwerks stuffies with Destiny's Garden fur shader.

    I guess the stuffies aren't in the store anymore??  I searched all Sloshwerks prodcuts and nothing.  I already own the Iray fur and leather shaders by Destiny's Garden.

    I think one of the Stuffies came with Sloshwerk's hair shaders and another came with an outfit - both recent products.

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  • Aave NainenAave Nainen Posts: 1,108

    The teddy bear is from Sloshwerks https://www.daz3d.com/santa-s-toy-workshop, all of his latest products come with a bonus stuffie, he's got some super cute ones!

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,861
    Ivy said:

    Deforce is awesome for stills renders I use it all the time for stills   . But I find using it in animation is frustrating at best. 99% of the time i'll run out of GPU Memory before the sim animation cycle is completed populating and crash studio before i ever get to render it.  and that is with a 980ti 6gig gpu That would be my number 1 complaint using deforce for animation I can't seem to get enough vram.

    The second thing i notice. Yes it is true you can use deforce clothing like other rigged clothing( in most cases)  except one major huge difference. Deforce clothing don't usually come with morph & bend dial setting like rigged clothing does,  which if your trying to use the deforce clothing like regular rigg clothing  you won't have the dials (in most cases) to fix poke throughs, have it bend correctly where you need it to etc  and some poses it will not conform to deforce clothing if not using deforce. especially if your trying to use the clothing in animation.  I guess if you have a really robust system it may handle it  . But for now its making  my clothing choice rather not buy deforce for those 2 reasons  . I just can't get enough GPU ram to use deforce for what I need it for, so I tend to stay away from deforce dresses and stuff that would require morph dials ..  Pants and tight fittings tops work okay.

    But those are the only 2 issues with deforce i have so far.  other wise it works & looks great for me in still renders

    ...no morph/moment parameters pretty much make it useless even for still scenes.  Precisely why I don't purchase it.

  • Aave NainenAave Nainen Posts: 1,108
    JOdel said:

    I've ended up with a lot of dForce clothing items from the last couple of years of Pro bundles, and picked up a couple of others which were particularly tempting. But havn't ever tried to use a simulation with any of it. 

    Most of the stuff from here works just fine as rigged items for standing or walking poses. Some of the stuff from Rendo doesn't have the rigging that DAZ includes for shifting things like moving a skirt just a bit to avoid poke-through.

    It makes me very sad to hear you are missing out on the magic of dForce, I put a lot of effort into making sure my products work using the default dForce simulation settings so that there is zero need for mangling, stretching or otherwise forcing the garments. This does mean that you must start the simulation from default pose though. If you have any of my products please try this: Load your figure, load the garment, set figure pose and make sure your dForce simulation settings are at default. The garment will look awful on the posed figure but not to worry, the figure will pop back into default pose and the simulation will gradually bring your figure back into desired pose with the garment nicely draped. If your pose is such that figure limbs pass through the garment while simulating, switch to timeline animation in simulation settings, set final pose at near last frame and use frames in the timeline to adjust the pose so that the limbs stay out of the way for as long as needed.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,861

    ...for myself not into the time it takes to run sims.  I have a backlog of scenes to complete some with quite a few characters and having to run sims for all of them on my old system would be ridiculous.

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    Aave Nainen said:

    The teddy bear is from Sloshwerks https://www.daz3d.com/santa-s-toy-workshop, all of his latest products come with a bonus stuffie, he's got some super cute ones!

     

    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. It's expensive, and I don't tend to buy and Xmas themed items, especially things with kids toys and such.  Wish the bears were sold separately. sad  Not sure it would work on LLF Plushies.  Will have to try it.  They're 3dl since they're old, but you never know!

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    sapat said:
    Aave Nainen said:

    The teddy bear is from Sloshwerks https://www.daz3d.com/santa-s-toy-workshop, all of his latest products come with a bonus stuffie, he's got some super cute ones!

     

    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. It's expensive, and I don't tend to buy and Xmas themed items, especially things with kids toys and such.  Wish the bears were sold separately. sad  Not sure it would work on LLF Plushies.  Will have to try it.  They're 3dl since they're old, but you never know!

    I've gotten good results with Iray shaders on plushies. The "personal best" image linked in my signature uses Heff in the chair behind the bed. He's got Iray fur shaders applied. @IceDragonArt is a fan of plushies, and I suspect she can provide links to several of her renders that use Plushies with Iray shaders.

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    L'Adair said:
    sapat said:
    Aave Nainen said:

    The teddy bear is from Sloshwerks https://www.daz3d.com/santa-s-toy-workshop, all of his latest products come with a bonus stuffie, he's got some super cute ones!

     

    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. It's expensive, and I don't tend to buy and Xmas themed items, especially things with kids toys and such.  Wish the bears were sold separately. sad  Not sure it would work on LLF Plushies.  Will have to try it.  They're 3dl since they're old, but you never know!

    I've gotten good results with Iray shaders on plushies. The "personal best" image linked in my signature uses Heff in the chair behind the bed. He's got Iray fur shaders applied. @IceDragonArt is a fan of plushies, and I suspect she can provide links to several of her renders that use Plushies with Iray shaders.

    Oh how adorable! I'll have to try that and see how it works for me. I love learning new things.  Thanks!

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    sapat said:
    L'Adair said:
    sapat said:
    Aave Nainen said:

    The teddy bear is from Sloshwerks https://www.daz3d.com/santa-s-toy-workshop, all of his latest products come with a bonus stuffie, he's got some super cute ones!

     

    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. It's expensive, and I don't tend to buy and Xmas themed items, especially things with kids toys and such.  Wish the bears were sold separately. sad  Not sure it would work on LLF Plushies.  Will have to try it.  They're 3dl since they're old, but you never know!

    I've gotten good results with Iray shaders on plushies. The "personal best" image linked in my signature uses Heff in the chair behind the bed. He's got Iray fur shaders applied. @IceDragonArt is a fan of plushies, and I suspect she can provide links to several of her renders that use Plushies with Iray shaders.

    Oh how adorable! I'll have to try that and see how it works for me. I love learning new things.  Thanks!

    Thank you. And you're welcome. smiley

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