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OT Ryzen Threadripper 2

Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,574
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https://www.amd.com/en/products/ryzen-threadripper?utm_source=silverpop&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=35587467&utm_term=Main Feature&utm_content=global-general-promotions-Threadrippper2-Available-Aug2018 (1):&spMailingID=35587467&spUserID=NzI2NzgwNDc5MjES1&spJobID=1341392066&spReportId=MTM0MTM5MjA2NgS2

Currently sold out at NewEgg and Amazon

$1799,00

Closest thing Intel has is this which has fewer cores, is slower, and cost $10,000

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117904

Comments

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,861

    ...less than ⅕ the price of the Intel 28 core yet better base clock speed and 64 PCIe 3.0 lanes.

    Wonder how Iray would render on it? For Carrara it would be incredible.

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    kyoto kid said:

    Wonder how Iray would render on it? 

    I'm guessing that would be somewhat irrelevant. For a price tag of $1,800, why not just buy two GTX-1080ti's and a $200-300 quad core i7 or something, and get vastly superior rendering speed. Spend your money where it will do some good. 

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,861
    ...I'm referring to when one of my epic scenes exceeds VRAM (trust me I could create a scene that would even challenge a Titan's VRAM). As mentioned, I also work in Carrara as well as still do some work in 3DL which does not natively support GPU rendering. It's called having the best of both worlds.
  • Silver DolphinSilver Dolphin Posts: 1,638

    I always wait for older stuff. As soon as this product gets off the ground and the price falls>>the 16 core should be a good buy.

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,574
    edited August 2018

    Waiting for the price to drop myself.

    Luckily I already have a motherboard and 128 Gb of DDR4 ram case, and power supply.

    I will however keep a watch on the motherboards in case something better than one of the two I have comes out

    Post edited by Robert Freise on
  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914

    I just started looking into upgrading. Our PCs are 5 or 6 years old now and they weren't top of the line when I did that upgrade. Been looking at the Ryzen 5 bundle with 16GB ram. Since I'd have to do 2 PCs, that bundle (with motherboard) would be around $800 And I'd be able to put another 16GB ram in my PC at a later time.

    Unfortunately, upgrading those 3 parts are sure to make our Win10 think that it's a new computer and require purchasing new licenses as well.

  • SoneSone Posts: 84

    Can Daz Studio use all 64 threads?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,861
    edited August 2018

    ...not for building a scene, the programme only uses 1 thread, but for rendering in 3DL that may be a different story.  I've heard different reports of just how many cores the Daz version 3DL uses (between 24 to 32) not completely sure about Iray thread use in CPU mode.. 

    I do know that Carrara would make use of all 64 threads for rendering

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • thompsonclint_b19f8b787fthompsonclint_b19f8b787f Posts: 6

    I'm really torn between the 2950x and 2990wx. I was all gung ho for the 2990wx until I heard about the performance issues outside of strictly rendering in comparison tot he 2950x and then being able to pump the 2950x to 4ghz on air seems like a nice win, especially with that sweet air cooler and the price is a real kicker too! I'm waiting until NVIDIA drops the next iteration of either 1180/2080 GTX/RTX cards before I fully commit so maybe my mind will change but it seems I may be pushing for a 2950 now with dual Ti next iteration cards, whenever they may become available and 32GB of RAM.

    Most of my renders are for homebrew/indie stuff and I sit around 1200x1600 to 1600x2000. I'm guessing that sort of setup should obliterate what I'm doing compared to my curreng 4790k with terribly restricted GTX960 with only 2GB (imagine that, wait dont...)

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729
    edited August 2018

    At that price someone that isn't independently wealthy is probably waiting for a CPU with 200 - 300 cores. I mean if they need 32 cores then what they really need is 200 - 300 cores after all. Look at the CUDA and other GPU core counts.

    Post edited by nonesuch00 on
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,861

    ...again if a render engine does not support GPU rendering, those CUDA cores are useless.

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    edited August 2018
    Be careful you dont equate CPU cores with GPU cores. They are very different architectures with very different purposes. GPUs are designed to do a zillion SUPER simple calcs simultaneously, and CPUs are designed to do very complex tasks very fast. So if you try to ask a CPU to do image processing for example it wont do it nearly as fast and efficiently as a GPU. Some tasks will do better, some worse. CPUs are more about having complex multi-step calculations with registers for interim calculation results (imagine a complex physics equation), while GPUs are real good at multiplying every pixel in an image by 2. Its a bit like saying you'll buy a much higher horsepower engine in your tiny car so you can pull a 40 foot cargo trailer. Yeah you could, but it might not be the smartest and most efficient. As I always say, this stuff is complicated. Choose the right tool for the job.
    Post edited by ebergerly on
  • hacsarthacsart Posts: 2,034

    $2500+ up here.. and it doesn't come with a cooler - 250WTDP means water cooling for sure, and there aren't that many coolers on the "approved list"

    Robert Freise said:

    https://www.amd.com/en/products/ryzen-threadripper?utm_source=silverpop&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=35587467&utm_term=Main Feature&utm_content=global-general-promotions-Threadrippper2-Available-Aug2018 (1):&spMailingID=35587467&spUserID=NzI2NzgwNDc5MjES1&spJobID=1341392066&spReportId=MTM0MTM5MjA2NgS2

    Currently sold out at NewEgg and Amazon

    $1799,00

    Closest thing Intel has is this which has fewer cores, is slower, and cost $10,000

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117904

     

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    ebergerly said:
    kyoto kid said:

    Wonder how Iray would render on it? 

    I'm guessing that would be somewhat irrelevant. For a price tag of $1,800, why not just buy two GTX-1080ti's and a $200-300 quad core i7 or something, and get vastly superior rendering speed. Spend your money where it will do some good. 

     

    Because a CPU has access to more RAM; mine has 64 GB and 16 Cores. Sure slower than my 980ti, but still withing the range, and a render never drops to, err wait it can't.

    I'm considering upgrading.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,861

    ...indeed, the one major advantage of CPU rendering.

    @ ebergerly

    ...oh, I know CPU and GPU cores are different, however if a render engine doesn't use GPU cores at all (such as Daz 3DL, Carrara, and Vue) you can have a million CUDA or Tensor cores on a card and it won't make a difference as it is the CPU that totally controls the process.  Part of the reason my original GPU card doesn't have more VRAM as at the time I built the system it wasn't that important since all we had to work with in Daz was 3DL and the original; version of LuxRender (which also was only CPU based).

  • artd3Dartd3D Posts: 165
    kaotkbliss said:

    I just started looking into upgrading. Our PCs are 5 or 6 years old now and they weren't top of the line when I did that upgrade. Been looking at the Ryzen 5 bundle with 16GB ram. Since I'd have to do 2 PCs, that bundle (with motherboard) would be around $800 And I'd be able to put another 16GB ram in my PC at a later time.

    Unfortunately, upgrading those 3 parts are sure to make our Win10 think that it's a new computer and require purchasing new licenses as well.

    I upgraded my windows 10 pro computer with a Ryzen 5 1600, 16 gigs memory and new motherboard, and did not have to repurchase Windows 10. I called Microsoft told them what I had upgraded and they activated it for free.

     

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