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Frustation about LAMH

MartialMartial Posts: 431
edited August 2018 in The Commons

This week i have downloaded 11934-lamh-presets-for-the-hivewire-big-dog-ds with three .lmh files for putting fur on the dog

Some month ago i have  .lmh file  for  the hivewire cat

i just tried to attach the the .lmh  file to the big dog using LAMH plugin..... and DAZ Studio 4,10 (last version) crash

I have the same problem when while ago i have tried for the cat : DAZ Studio crash just as i click on attach ion the LAMH pane

I have tried with LAMH plugin ,which i have bought and with the free loader:.Same issue: DAZStudio CRASH

I know i must not use  or have the plugin and the free loader at he same time in my DAZStudio installation

I have writen to the developper when i have the problem with the hivewire cat and send all the log and error message via forum and No solution for this problem

I have uninstalled all LAMH and downloaded again the LAMH from DAZ:  SAME issue

I must precise that all the animals product bought  from AM with the fur on ( Fox, beaver, racoon etc) are ok and working correctly

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,052

    When you say attach the .lmh, do you mean load it from a content pane or do you mean it's loaded and you try parenting it to the figure? Don't do the latter, as I recall.

  • MartialMartial Posts: 431

    Bonjour

    Thank for reply

    Here  screen captures illustrate the problem

     

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  • MartialMartial Posts: 431
    edited August 2018

    And the result

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  • MartialMartial Posts: 431

    And the log file generated inside DAZStudio

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,052

    Looks as if you have some database issues, but I don't think thsoe could account for the crashing. You may want to check the official thread https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/14818/look-at-my-hair-lamh-official-thread-update-1-6-0-1-released#latest

  • xmasrosexmasrose Posts: 1,409

    Did you try to load a preset for, by example, DAZ Milcat or Daz Mildog (the old models, presets available on LAMH site https://www.furrythings.com/presets/)?

  • MartialMartial Posts: 431

    Yes i have seen and participate to the official forum without solution to my problem

    I have also tried with success some older presets with old version of DAZStudio

    The problem is there since versions 4,9 and 4,10 of DAZStudio

    I just check today with older prsets Same crash

  • xmasrosexmasrose Posts: 1,409

    Is it a beta?

    Did you try the 4.11 beta?

    I use 4.9 and beta 4.10 without problem so it seems the problem comes from your installation of Daz Studio (could be anything, did you check your antivirus or your firewall?).

    I am sure someone will be able to help you.

  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,212

    Looking at the log you seem to have a lot of nested folders which might cause trouble with some plugins especially LAMH which needs files to be in the all the right places to work.

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    edited August 2018

    I had to have my format reformatted last week so I don't have my LAMH reinstalled, but instead of 'Attach', did you to 'to Obj'?  All the times I've used LAMH for clothing or animals (like the free LAMH long hair presets from HW), I used 'to Obj'.  Then you see the long bright green hairs on your figure, and the additional lines of info added to the Scene tab that relate to the 'fur'.  Some will say 'Renderman' etc.  But you have to have your figure posed exactly how it's going to be in your scene before you do anything with the hair.  The hair doesn't move and it will stay behind if you reposition your figure.  You can't 'undo' it either.

    Anyway, that's what I remember from my experience.  I did these a year ago...Aug 2017.  I resized them for the forum, so pardon the quality.

     

     

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  • MartialMartial Posts: 431

    Thanks for your suggestions

    I am using DAZStudio since the beginning ( i have paid for the first pro version at this time because it was not free).I have many and many products in my library  folder .DAZStudio is installed on my D:\ drive

    Everything and plugins are working EXCEPT  this  Look at my hair plug in .It is loading as the capture screen show but when i try to use , it crash my DAZStudio. The free loader did the same

    Sapat: i just try to click on To obj .Nothing happens. I remember the first time i have used LAMH i clicked on this option to load some presets lmh It was working at this time

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735

    Maybe you can uninstall and reinstall, and make sure you delete the .lmh files that were created when you applied the hair. They get put in a folder. Mine happened to go to the same folder as the 'My Daz Connect Library'.  Your presets could be wherever you told it to go.

     

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  • xmasrosexmasrose Posts: 1,409

    Do you have both the free one and the full one because I remember hearing you shouldn't have both installed at the same time.

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited August 2018

    I'm not sure if you are applying/using the product correctly....

    I go to the LAMH-Materials. I simply double-click on the material preset, and it loads both the cat and the hair together, fine.

    There is no need to go through the "Attach LAMH Preset". Perhaps the crash is caused when the plugin tries to load the full figure through the attachment.

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  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,555
    sapat said:

    I had to have my format reformatted last week so I don't have my LAMH reinstalled, but instead of 'Attach', did you to 'to Obj'?  All the times I've used LAMH for clothing or animals (like the free LAMH long hair presets from HW), I used 'to Obj'.  Then you see the long bright green hairs on your figure, and the additional lines of info added to the Scene tab that relate to the 'fur'.  Some will say 'Renderman' etc.  But you have to have your figure posed exactly how it's going to be in your scene before you do anything with the hair.  The hair doesn't move and it will stay behind if you reposition your figure.  You can't 'undo' it either.

    Anyway, that's what I remember from my experience.  I did these a year ago...Aug 2017.  I resized them for the forum, so pardon the quality.

     

     

    you actually just helped confirm something for me too, with my non am characters that don't have the LAMH2Iray Catalyzer plugin ability I was loading for example one of the ape world characters posing it then did the fur to object trick with LAMH with the result being the fur becoming unattatched in default pose didn't think about posing first before doing that was getting so frustrated stopped using any non am animals with fur, thank you can use them again - oh am is releasing a new gorilla with baby soon btw

  • MartialMartial Posts: 431
    edited August 2018
    BeeMKay said:

    I'm not sure if you are applying/using the product correctly....

    I go to the LAMH-Materials. I simply double-click on the material preset, and it loads both the cat and the hair together, fine.

    There is no need to go through the "Attach LAMH Preset". Perhaps the crash is caused when the plugin tries to load the full figure through the attachment.

    BeeMKay: thanks for this suggestion

    I am inside DAZStudio. Where you go to access dirctly to LAMH materials ?

    May be my problem is related to where i place the .lmh files .I place  where are the animal items : My library\Animals\ HiveWireBigDog (for example)

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  • xmasrosexmasrose Posts: 1,409

    I place them there too sometimes and it didn't generate any problem.

     

    Martial said:

    May be my problem is related to where i place the .lmh files .I place  where are the animal items : My library\Animals\ HiveWireBigDog (for example)

     

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    Martial said:
    BeeMKay said:

    I'm not sure if you are applying/using the product correctly....

    I go to the LAMH-Materials. I simply double-click on the material preset, and it loads both the cat and the hair together, fine.

    There is no need to go through the "Attach LAMH Preset". Perhaps the crash is caused when the plugin tries to load the full figure through the attachment.

    BeeMKay: thanks for this suggestion

    I am inside DAZStudio. Where you go to access dirctly to LAMH materials ?

    May be my problem is related to where i place the .lmh files .I place  where are the animal items : My library\Animals\ HiveWireBigDog (for example)

    I have to admit, I just unzip the installation folder, and then take the folders and move them into my HiveWire content directory... Anyway, if you haven't taken everything apart.... In Hivewire Big Dog, go to Materials. There should be a subfolder for LAMH. Inside the subfolder, you should find a .duf file, which will load the dog with the  LAMH preset.

    I can make screenshots of the installation and where to find it when I#m at my rendering PC, if that helps you.

  • xmasrosexmasrose Posts: 1,409

    @BeeMKay  where did you get the LAMH duf file? Thanks

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019

    @xmasrose I think they were part of the download from the HW store for the cat.

    But I checked now and see that the original link expired, and the new one doesn't have the duf... I see if I can make a duf preset or something like that and post it here.

  • xmasrosexmasrose Posts: 1,409

    Thanks that could help Martial.

    I made a subscene for the HW dog with the short1 LAMH preset but I am not sure how to share.

  • MartialMartial Posts: 431
    edited August 2018

    Allo

    I appreciate all suggestions

    But for now in my materials folder i just see one folder for delight and one  for Iray nothing for LAMH

    If presets for LAMH could exist using .lmh files ( as i have for AM products) i would be nice for all

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  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited August 2018

    Okay... First, yes, you can habe either the free player or the pro version of LAMH installed. If you have oth installed, things do not work properly. But I am not sure if that is the problem.

    The dog fur loads for me without a hitch using the Plugin method that gives you a crash. But it takes a long time to load the lmh preset into the LAMH plugin.

    I made a scene subset, and don't know if this will work.

    The dog has to be installed in the following path in your content folder (this is the path that it has when you copy it out of the zip folder): Animals\HiveWireBigDog\

    You then create a subdirectory in materials "LAMH". Move the lmh files and the two files attached to this post into the following path:

    Animals\HiveWireBigDog\Materials\LAMH

    When everything is in place, open DAZ Studio, go to "materials/LAMH" in your content directory, and see if you have the icon of the dog there. If yes, doubleclick and see if it loads. If this works, I can make prests for the other three settings and the cat, put them in a zip and upload them.

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  • MartialMartial Posts: 431

    Bravo BeeMKay Bravo!

    It works see capture screen

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  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    ANGELREAPER1972 said:
    sapat said:

    I had to have my format reformatted last week so I don't have my LAMH reinstalled, but instead of 'Attach', did you to 'to Obj'?  All the times I've used LAMH for clothing or animals (like the free LAMH long hair presets from HW), I used 'to Obj'.  Then you see the long bright green hairs on your figure, and the additional lines of info added to the Scene tab that relate to the 'fur'.  Some will say 'Renderman' etc.  But you have to have your figure posed exactly how it's going to be in your scene before you do anything with the hair.  The hair doesn't move and it will stay behind if you reposition your figure.  You can't 'undo' it either.

    Anyway, that's what I remember from my experience.  I did these a year ago...Aug 2017.  I resized them for the forum, so pardon the quality.

     

     

    you actually just helped confirm something for me too, with my non am characters that don't have the LAMH2Iray Catalyzer plugin ability I was loading for example one of the ape world characters posing it then did the fur to object trick with LAMH with the result being the fur becoming unattatched in default pose didn't think about posing first before doing that was getting so frustrated stopped using any non am animals with fur, thank you can use them again - oh am is releasing a new gorilla with baby soon btw

    Cool!  Yeah, when I was testing an outfit with fur a few years ago, I applied the fur then posed her and her fur stayed behind.  So we found out that you have to stick with the pose you apply, or delete everything and start over.  Frustrating for sure.

  • MartialMartial Posts: 431

    Yeah BeeMKay Many thanks

    I have now a big dog with fur on . I have saved it and open again : fur still there.Rendering limited to Delight but it nice to see this animal with fur

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019

    That's a relief!

    But you should be able to edit and export the loaded fur by simply selecting it in the scene tab, and then open the LAMH-Editor. Then you could convert them to obj or fibermesh for Iray.

    I've attached the two other dog settings for you. Just put them in the same folder as indicated above. I'll do the cat ones as soon as I find time for them.

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  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,555
    sapat said:
    ANGELREAPER1972 said:
    sapat said:

    I had to have my format reformatted last week so I don't have my LAMH reinstalled, but instead of 'Attach', did you to 'to Obj'?  All the times I've used LAMH for clothing or animals (like the free LAMH long hair presets from HW), I used 'to Obj'.  Then you see the long bright green hairs on your figure, and the additional lines of info added to the Scene tab that relate to the 'fur'.  Some will say 'Renderman' etc.  But you have to have your figure posed exactly how it's going to be in your scene before you do anything with the hair.  The hair doesn't move and it will stay behind if you reposition your figure.  You can't 'undo' it either.

    Anyway, that's what I remember from my experience.  I did these a year ago...Aug 2017.  I resized them for the forum, so pardon the quality.

     

     

    you actually just helped confirm something for me too, with my non am characters that don't have the LAMH2Iray Catalyzer plugin ability I was loading for example one of the ape world characters posing it then did the fur to object trick with LAMH with the result being the fur becoming unattatched in default pose didn't think about posing first before doing that was getting so frustrated stopped using any non am animals with fur, thank you can use them again - oh am is releasing a new gorilla with baby soon btw

    Cool!  Yeah, when I was testing an outfit with fur a few years ago, I applied the fur then posed her and her fur stayed behind.  So we found out that you have to stick with the pose you apply, or delete everything and start over.  Frustrating for sure.

    I'm always learning something new :) Guess some would say it is pretty obvious but even if it is to many it can still be something you never think of or relise 

  • MartialMartial Posts: 431

    Thanks for these others .duf presets for the hivewire3d dog

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited August 2018

    Here's the presets for the HW cat. As with the dog presets, they will only work if you are using the default installation path for the cat, and add a LAMH folder in the materials, where you need to place the cat lmh and the files I have attached.

    cat default path: \Animals\HiveWireHouseCat

    Materials/preset path: \Animals\HiveWireHouseCat\Materials\LAMH

    Enjoy. :-)

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