Getting renders to match promo images

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• scorpio Posts: 8,533

  August 2018

  To open the mouth select the figure in the parameters tab under Pose there should be a mouth open dial.

  As to the difference in the skin your images are much too small to make out any detail or lack of. But to make a guess you are rendering with Iray and the Skullcrusher mats are optimised for the 3delight engine, if I remember they use displacement to get a bumpy effect and displacement doesn't work quite the same in Iray as in 3dl. You will need t alter the the settings in the surfaces tab.
• xavierator Posts: 161

  August 2018

  Dear,

  I just create my 2nd Daz 3D figure, a Rock Troll.

  If we see the original product https://www.daz3d.com/rock-troll we can see a very good texture, it seems a real rock

  My figure is plain, how can I create this relief ?

  

  It doesn't seem to be a rendering problem because at design time it doesn't show relief:

  

  And the last one, how can I open the mouth of the troll ?

  Thanks and kind regards, Xavi

  

  

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• xavierator Posts: 161

  August 2018

  Ok, I will try to open the mouth following your instructions.

   

  In design time I can't see texture or relief in my Daz 3D viewport

  I rendered a 10000 pixels image, it can't be higher

  If I render the image again using 3delight I will see a texture ?

   

  Thanks, Xavi

   
• diogenese19348 Posts: 929

  August 2018

  It is likely you will see a texture if you render it in 3Delight.  Skin textures render entirely differently under IRAY vs 3Delight, and Genesis 1 figures were all using 3Delight MATS, IRAY wasn't around at the time.
• xavierator Posts: 161

  August 2018

  Ok, I will render with 3Delight

  About the mouth I just see the dials in Parameters/Actor, but only to change width or height, nothing to change the mouth expression :-(

  

  I read more information in this link https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/34810/how-to-open-genesis-mouth-solved, but I can't find expressions

  Thanks, Xavi

  

  

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• Richard Haseltine Posts: 108,072

  August 2018

  Merged threads since they are essentially the same topic - getting a result sinilar to the promo images.

  As well as using the right render engine, 3D elight or Iray, a big factor is lighting - if you want to show relief detail, whether it's added by bump or displacement or HD morph, requires a soemwhat directional light - a very diffuse ambient light comng from all directions will then to flatten detail in the render. As an experiment, try adding a spot-light shining at the figure from front left or front right (you can do this by selecting the light in a view selector button at top-right and using the viewport controls to show a suitable view of the figure), then switch back to your camera (or the perspective view) and try a render - if you are using Iray go to redner Settings, in the Editor tab under Environment set the mode to Scene Only and in Tone Mapping turn the ISO up to something like 1600.
• xavierator Posts: 161

  August 2018

  To change expressions, need I https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-evolution-head-morphs ?

  Thanks, Xavi
• nemesis10 Posts: 3,790

  August 2018

  xavierator said:

  Ok, I will render with 3Delight

  About the mouth I just see the dials in Parameters/Actor, but only to change width or height, nothing to change the mouth expression :-(

  

  I read more information in this link https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/34810/how-to-open-genesis-mouth-solved, but I can't find expressions

  Thanks, Xavi

  Near the bottom of the parameter list should be pose... Or select the head and look at the bottom of the parameter list...
• xavierator Posts: 161

  August 2018 edited August 2018

  Perfect, mouth dial for ogre found selecting head

  Thanks, Xavi

  Post edited by xavierator on August 2018
• xavierator Posts: 161

  August 2018

  The Rock Troll doesn't have the mouth or expressions dials in Parameters like Ogre

  How can I change it ?

  Thanks, Xavi
• Richard Haseltine Posts: 108,072

  August 2018

  xavierator said:

  To change expressions, need I https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-evolution-head-morphs ?

  Thanks, Xavi

  The base figure has basic expressions

  xavierator said:

  The Rock Troll doesn't have the mouth or expressions dials in Parameters like Ogre

  How can I change it ?

  Thanks, Xavi

  The Troll is an older base figure, it probably isn't set up with types for its modifiers. If in doubt, use the Parameters pane rather than the speciailised panes (Posing, Shaping etc.)
• xavierator Posts: 161

  August 2018

  Richard Haseltine said:

  The Troll is an older base figure, it probably isn't set up with types for its modifiers. If in doubt, use the Parameters pane rather than the speciailised panes (Posing, Shaping etc.)

  Yessssss, it works with Shaping tab

  Thanks, Xavi
• xavierator Posts: 161

  August 2018

  Richard Haseltine said:

  Merged threads since they are essentially the same topic - getting a result sinilar to the promo images.

  As well as using the right render engine, 3D elight or Iray, a big factor is lighting - if you want to show relief detail, whether it's added by bump or displacement or HD morph, requires a soemwhat directional light - a very diffuse ambient light comng from all directions will then to flatten detail in the render. As an experiment, try adding a spot-light shining at the figure from front left or front right (you can do this by selecting the light in a view selector button at top-right and using the viewport controls to show a suitable view of the figure), then switch back to your camera (or the perspective view) and try a render - if you are using Iray go to redner Settings, in the Editor tab under Environment set the mode to Scene Only and in Tone Mapping turn the ISO up to something like 1600.

  Using 3D elight the result is different, but I only get a soft relief skin.

  I will follow your light and other instructions.

  Thanks, Xavi