Thank you... Oh wait...
Jason Galterio
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I wish that DAZ would start considering lesser bundles as purchased when the larger bundle has been bought.
Example: Ninive 6 comes in three varieties, the base model, the starter bundle, the pro bundle. I purchased the pro bundle, so the base model comes up as already purchased. But the starter bundle does not.
Today's reason why...
Today's special is get the DAZ Horse 2 when you purchase 3 of today's items. Ooops. I already purchased Horse 2, fine. A green banner popped up saying "we saw you already have the DAZ Horse 2, so instead, please choose one of these Starter Bundles!" Great! Except... I already purchased all of those in the Pro variety.
So momentarily I had an option. And then I didn't.
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Same here
I was coming here to say something similar... I don't mind (too much) not being able to take advantage of a free item, but I do wish that starter bundles were marked as bought when you bought a pro bundle.
Ditto.
Out of the 21 items showing in my choices, I'm only missing 4 of the Pro bundles, but only 19 are are showing as "not purchased" (because I already have 2 of the Starter bundles but not their Pro version, either).
It would be nice to not have to open each one and every of them to see which few are truly missing from my "acquistions".
Needing 3 items from today's releases to qualify for it, I didn't even bother to check what bundles I still "needed."
+1 to all above except I did look
At least Daz is trying different market strategies so for people who would be buying three things anyway, they may be able to pick something up.
Yeah, this is for NEW people to the store. If that's your First Victorian suit set and/or you are building your clothing collection for G8, then yep a cool horse is awesome (and hey, they horse GOES WITH the carriage. lol)
And maybe an older bundle- that should have some stuff you wanted.
I can't create a cart bundle that makes sense. I keep adding clothes, but then I need 3.
More of the same sci-fi suit and what else? Hard to figure and configure.
I do want some of the featured artist stuff so.,....
I dunno....
I might give the cart thing one more try for the day.....
Easiest thing is bundle+texture sets for clothes from bundle.
yeah the banner rather pointless as I too have all those as pro bundles
not worried except since DAZ knows I own the horse you would think the bundles would also be shown in their algorithm as purchased so why bother teasing me with be useless banner
I never know why lesser bundles cannot show as purchased either if you own the higher ones.
The items not being marked as purchased has bothered me for a while. Not enough to really complain about it, since it's just a minor irritant all things considered...
This morning I just felt like sharing because I felt like I was a kid again.... Opening a present from my grandmother, seeing that it was a game I really wanted, then realizing that it wasn't the version that worked on the system I had. That's the best way I could describe the feeling as I picked through all the Starter Bundles.
Textures are good, but I think I'll pass on that and go with the flash sale.
The Pro bundle doesn't actually include the Starter bundle, only the various items included in it, most probably because the store software doesn't allow putting a "bundle product" in another bundle. So the system doesn't mark it as purchased automatically when you get the pro bundle.
If you're just interested in the bundle items you can also purchase them separately, with the 50% discount for purchasing 3 items it's cheaper than buying only the bundle at 30% off.
Almost posted this same thing myself earlier, but even though I already have all of the offered items, it's a least a good sign that DAZ is finally starting to figure out that a lot of their better customers have been getting kinda hosed by their recent promotions. Now they just need to actually figure out what to do to make it work.
Except that it shouldn't be hard to actually write the store software so that it can do that, since it clearly can already track when an item that's not normally in a bundle is thrown in as an incentive, as with the recent HD sets being tossed in with Ollie, ralph, Edie, etc., so adding an identifier to recognize that a Pro Bundle includes a starter bundle shouldn't be that much different,
Same here, but I am hoping for an additional alternative.
Well the bundles were all Genesis 2 bundles I would of liked Genesis 3 bundles as well but I guess those have to be saved for the major characters.
I do like the Victorian Bundle and the pricing although I can't afford it now with gardening and house DIY using all my budget.
I agree that if you are developing the software yourself it wouldn't be hard to do that. I don't kow how the Daz system works, I suspect it could be that they bought a ready made package solution for the store and it doesn't have the functionality to do it.
Anyway it was nice of them to offer. I'm still going through the bundles to see it I there is anything I haven't got. I like the outfits on sale. I'm not sure the male outfit in the Lords and Ladies bundle is really what a Lord would have worn but it's a nice bundle.
I don't think the software would interprete ownership of all constituents the same as owning the bundle. For one, there is no transaction record for the purchase of the bundle. And since items can be added and removed from a bundle doesn't make implementing this any easier.. What could be done is provide an additional upgrade facility for those who own significant items from a bundle to the whole bundle itself. For those who own all items of the bundle it should be a $0 upgrade. The point is to have a transaction on record for the bundle ownership so that all future promotions can take that record into account. At the end of day, it remains a question of whether the juice is worth the squeeze.
Even when they give away items as free it is considered a purchase. They should also count owning of all the constituents of a bundle as owning the bundle too.
It's a matter of for each customer purchase going through and marking bundles or constituents of bundles as purchased 'via' in their dB one time. And then having store SW or backend office dB SW doing it for each purchase in the future.
I like the ATI DAZ Deal Chrome Plugin SW for that reason although it has use UI elements at fault from time to time (eg deleting a 'new' DAZ product from a cart with a not not item in the cart will sometimes make the old item appear as 'new'; refreshing the cart will fix it though).
Add my name to the list of receivers who got this. Thank you for your previous purchase. We want to offer you this instead....Nothing, as you have already purchased these too! Well DAZ, I will say You're Welcome. After all, it's the thought that counts. So, while I am thinking.... I will just think about buying 3 more products in place of actually doing so because obviously I've purchased too much in the past. Please DAZ, take the time and make the effort to mark individual items purchased in bundles as already bought in your customer's database!
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I need to stop jumping into these forums when im not feeling well!
I think this is all being over thought...
What I never understood is why it's not set up like this:
Base Figure
Starter Bundle > includes base figure and some stuff
Pro Bundle > includes base figure, the Starter Bundle, and some more stuff
It's not really rocket science and wouldn't involve re-programming anything. Just include the Starter Bundle in the Pro Bundle, rather than including the contents of the bundle.
(Of course, if the system doesn't allow a bundle in a bundle, then this doesn't work.)
Guess I cannot get the horse 2 for free because the banner said I cannot take advantage of it. 0.o. Oh I think I got the horse 2 bundle possibly I think.
Just because something is free doesn't meant that it would automatically show up in your content library, unless Daz automatically adds it to you library (which is rare). Even the items in the freebies section behave that way i.e unless you "buy" them they won't be included in your content library. My suggestion above is just to make it easy for the system to identify ownership. The bundle has an independent and separate SKU. So unless there is a transaction for that SKU, how do you expect the system to consider ownership? It also depends on how the SKU is configured. Purchasing a bundle may give you access to all consituents but not vice versa.
Except that it's not always equivalent, sometimes there are bonus items which are only available when you buy the bundle. Case in point the extra breeds and textures that you can get only in the Horse 2 bundles...
I use the DAZ-Deals plugin to HIDE the starter kits and other bundles I have completed separately. Works great!
+1
Sort of a weird attitude.
I view it as an extra perk for buying stuff I like at already a high discount.
Agreed! Daz just needs to stop with free additional incentives, because obviously there are always going to be those that are never happy with what's offered for whatever reason and think something is owed to them.
Whenever I buy new stuff, it's very rare that I like two (or more) of the items that have been added to the store.
Maybe if I had the cash to buy three new items, and like more than the one item that was added, I would've taken Daz up on their offer/banner...
...I can't, so I'm not.
Daz do not owe me anything. I'm happy with two coupons a month. Anything else is a bonus.
I do agree starter bundles should be included as part of the pro package so they will show up as purchased.