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Oh, I do have some interest in family history - I'm just to lazy to go through the efforts to dig it out.
And it would probably be a bit costly, too, due to getting all those church records from foreign lands and in foreign languages and have them translated...
Couple family rumors I know (more recent, like 19th century and later):
All in all I'm not so much interested in the history of certain regions, but more on a global scale... And - as has been mentioned before - new techniques that archeology now has (and those they will have) will probably lead to many interesting finds, that will change a lot of what we now "know as facts" about history.
Not everybody migrated. 2008 scientists analyzed DNA from 3000 years old human bones found in a cave in a Harz mountain valley, and discovered evidence that descendants of these bronze time settlers still lived in the same valley. Makes them one of the world oldes families ...
I have been trying to do some research for a writing/novel project centering around pre- and post- flood Ireland/Doggerland/Wales/Scotland/Britain. All the new findings, seems like more every week, make it confusing. The excavations on the Orkney Islands have turned up some amazing stuff! When did this relatively small population have the time to build all those henges, stone cirtles, wood circles, etc.? I have seen estimates as high as 3500 sites including the UK and Western Europe areas. I guess it is like my friend said "they didn't have cable or internet".
The fact that people tend to build along the coast, and the flooding of that region everywhere inplies that we have only scratched the surface (pun intended) in terms of archeological finds. The vast expanse of what they now call Doggerland is just being scanned, and researchers think they have detected chambered passage tombs, stone circles, etc. The Ring of Brodgar in the Orkneys is a lesser-known but really cool stone circle, and there is some indication there is a second, similar ring underwater nearby. When the water rose, they did not move the ring, they built another one. The recent discovery of Megahenge around the Salisbury area is exciting, particularly since people have been living, farming, etc. in the area for thousands of years. Just too big to see until recent aerial surveys.
I recently read that some experts now believe that one of the classic references for the history of Ireland, the "Book of Invasions", is largely fiction, and that it was trading and resettlement that caused people to move around, not large scale invasions. Maybe the largest "invasion" was the gradual movement of people living in the huge areas that flooded to higher ground. I keep reminding myself that the wandering bards and Shannachie would get more food and drink if they told a more exciting story, so there was no doubt a tendency to embelish and improvise a bit, a la recent Marvel and DC movies (Blowed up good! Blowed up real good!")
Some years back, I thought I was going to have to make a lot of stuff up for my stories. Nope, not any more.
On a less-related note, there is apparently some evidence for huge petroglyphs underneath the Amazon rainforest canopy.
Exciting times for both Archeologists and writers of historical fiction! : ) 'Course if they discover the sunken city of R'lyeh and wake up Cthulhu, things may get a bit too exciting.
I am fascinated by doggerland too...people tend to settle near lakes and rivers and thus what is now Britain would be high country back then.
This was an interesting episode of time team involving doggerland https://youtu.be/4P9wQj6qX2I
as far as how people had the time do things..... from what I understand agriculture really took more time than the hunter gatherer lifestyle. So people had more free time when they weren’t spending time toiling on farm plots.. Agriculture brought about a lot of changes for humanity not all of them for the best...
Thanks to Chohole and others, it is always helpful to get comments and perspectives on history from people who actually live in the areas in question!
I recently saw a documentary on the copper mining industry in Wales during the Bronze Age - amazing scale for having so little technology!
Right! And perhaps the most facinating mystery is how they got so many hunter-gatherers organized to build some of this stuff. The folks investigating the Durrington Walls area now suggest that maybe a couple of thousand people would get together every summer in a semi-permanent settlement there to build the final phase of Stonehenge (and possibly other nearby henges, etc.), with nightly auroch roasts. This was when the entire population of the area was supposedly like 10,000.
There is a National Geographic documentary trying to explain why the people in the area seemed to suddenly switch from the chambered passage tomb/doorway to the Underworld focus to the outdoor henge/stone circle focus. Their theory is that it coincides with a long period of massive and spectacular meteor showers that must have been terrifying. The people then decided that the Sky Gods were feeling neglected, so maybe they better make them happy. Priest/Shaman/Druid/Whatever: "Ok folks, we all need to get together this summer again and work on the henges and stone circles to appease the Sky Gods. Everybody work hard and we will have auroch roasts and communal singing every night! It will be fun!" "But if we don't they will drop huge flaming rocks on our heads and fry our butts with lightning!" Sounds pretty motivational to me. : )
Religion is the strongest motivator. Plus once you get a large group of people together not everyone has to do hunting activities people can become artisans and craftspeople and you can support a priesthood who also doesn’t work either in the traditional sense. It’s the answer for all things that people can’t explain in archaeology... It’s a ritual... it serves ritual purpose.
The Orkneys that is the one place that I want to visit more than any other place in the British Isles that I haven't been too because I saw a documentary one about these people that made an amazing dresser out of stone. It was awesome.
I have only the local PBS channel and they show the same Civil War and WWII documentaries over & over & over & over and no it's not required viewing of any state or local school to watch those as part of a class curriculum. Time Team and those other shows are much more expansive and balanced than PBS.
It would be fun to look ahead several hundred or maybe several thousand years and see how historians/anthropologists explain the "Tide Pod" challenge or the "Set yourself on fire and jump into water" challenge. I can see it now: "It was obviously a cult ritual, possibly an initiation rite". : )
Nah, they'd say it was dumb attempt at notarierty.
Add to that, some folks also were either to old or not healthy enough, to do a good job at hunting - but they still could other stuff...
One of my favourite "new findings" is Göbekli Tepe. Digging goes on there since 1996 or so and it just gets bigger and bigger... built by a hunter-gatherer culture, it seems.
And then there's also one of the many henges that can be found all over erurope - like the Goseck circle in Saxony-Anhalt. Or findings like the Nebra sky-disc or the more recent - only about 2000 years old - Antikythera mechanism. Until it was found and analyzed nobody would ever had in his wildest dreams that something like that could have been built at that time.
Then there was a report on National Geographic channel about finds in Brasil, which seem to indicate that there once was a culture with permanent settlements of several 1000 peoples each, in rich agricultural lands along the Amazonas river, where now is only jungle.
And there have been regions in north america, where there also were large native indian settlements with earthworks of pyramidic sizes, or larger... several thousand people must have lived there for prolonged times, long before Columbus didn't really dicover america.
I guess a lot of stuff has not been found yet, because it is in regions that nowadays are hard to reach or just have not gotten any interest, because even archeologists have to get a secure financial base for their searches - and rarely get money when saying "I really don't know if there is something in the midst of the brazilian jungle, but hey, I would love to do a 3-year tour there to see if I can find anything..."
The newer branches of archeology, using satellite pictures of diffferent light frequencies, thermal and whatnot, or those using the lidar technology, which allows to kinda "look through" the plants covering the ground by using algorithms to "make them trees invisible" allow to do a lot of work at home, like looking for promising spots, and then go out to the most promising ones with a higher chance to find something...
That’s very interesting. I too find Göbekli Tepe interesting, I do wonder at the motivations to build structures like that. I admit to also being curious about the use of satellite pictures to form images of what ancient landscapes might look like. I did see one show which talked about doggerland and how the land under the sea must’ve looked like with lakes and streams. It must’ve been a fertile place. These ancient river beds can be viewed from space and create a map of the landscape from not so long ago,..
That part of Turkey is where they think modern wheat was domesticated and cattle husbandry 1st started based on genetic studies similar to how they do with people. It's neat that it matches the history / religious books too that were too vaguely written as to where that wheat / beef culture originated. They have done similar studies with rice and other foods too. Most of the fruit and nut trees, with a few exceptions like pecans, blackberries, gooseberries, and some others, that I have planted in the last couple of years originate in that area or not too far away. I guess there was always far enough south to avoid ice sheets.
Okay since no one else will ask about it, What do you mean by lose his store?
a fair few Premier Artists lost their stores a while back due to not producing new content but they cannot discus it on the forum apparently, some have spoken on facebook as I said
Well who was the artist so I can look at Rendo for them?
no store, he gave up
was Betamelo
Oh, OK thanks.
I have found an incredible number of historical and archeological videos on YouTube. Some are from BBC, some from professors and graduate student projects, some from amatuer historians. You can find a tour and commentary on just about any stone circle, tomb or similar site, many with ground-level and drone views. There are suddenly a number of mini-documetaries on the Picts, just as a example. There are several on the Pictish Ogham writing, as well as the Irish versions. Of course some vids promote the rather radical personal theories of folks (it was Aliens, I tell you! Aliens! They built Stonehenge as part of the intergalactic relay station!). But we all know the real reason they have found so many bones from roasted aurochs near Stonehenge is that is how they paid the dragons to move the big stones for them. "Roast Auroch every night? Deal!" : )
Ah, interesting. I think ogham must be interesting to learn about too. When we visited stonehenge you would get in big trouble if you touched it but they did set aside and label a stonehedge stone in the parking lot to rub for those into good luck gestures & such.
When we were over there maybe 20 years ago, we wanted to go on the Stonehenge tour, but they had just moved the route the buses took out even further from the site to protect from vibrations. When we found out how far away we were going to be, we passed on the tour. It was pretty expensive too.
It's not that far from the parking lot to Stonehenge I remember but it is near a road with quite a bit of traffic. This was like 13 years ago. Our tour guide did mention though that that road had been moved away from being closer to Stonehenge now that you mentioned it.