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LOL I did textures and didn't make the clothing. Smay did that ;). I did make a hat tho...forgot about that. LOL
Laurie
My basic gripe about male AND female models is that most of them look like super-models, with that @#$! "pretty" face, like they're sucking in their cheeks. I want real people in my work, not supermodels.
Support you in that. India probably has the largest range of veggie foods in the world and it is all delicious!
conan brutes.
the g3m had a pretty good diversity of male types.
clothes lean to fully covering or straps with spikes. between that spectrum, more diversity be nice.
Thanks, i'm always looking to improve me recipes. I just got back from India in March (LOL, didn't pay for it I really am poor) and you are right their food is very good. We visited a couple of families and they still live like in the USA and Europe of the last century and earlier in these extended familial compounds growing much of their own food and building their dwellings piecemeal as they earn and save the money to buy the materials. Actually, were I live now in the US it is still fairly common to take 10 years or so to build one's house oneself with earnings as they save enough to buy the materials. I am very happy that WalMart combined with Kroger allows me to buy 15 different varieties of 1lb bags of beans even though the difference between some varieties are minimal (pinto and cranberry beans, navy and great northern beans, lentils and red lentils, kidneys and red). I get rid of the gas by soaking them over night with 2 tablespoons of baking soda, rinsing good, letting them hard boil for 15 - 20 minutes (I have an inductance hot plate with a timer so the water isn't boiled out dry), rinsing good again, and then finally cooking in an electric pressure cooker for an hour. For 1 1/2 days of prep it makes 13 servings. I'd literally be protein starved without dry beans. I also eat boat loads of farina, oats, rice, barley, and grits. Sounds deprived and bland but actually nutritionally I'm much better off and it tastes better than pre-prepped via cans or whatever. Now when I eat other pre-prepped food I can taste mostly overwhelming amounts of sugars and fats. Pre-prepped food is an indulgent luxury on my budget that I spend instead in the yard and on digital 3D products.
Also, you probably already know but the drained water off of chickpeas (aka garbanzo beans) makes a good meringue substitute although if you really want to eat chickpeas they taste 100% better to cook from dry yourself but 2 days prep and eating chickpeas everytime you make meringue isn't ideal or convenient. I've noticed too when preparing other types of dry beans the hard boil process makes meringues for those too, chickpeas do it best but dry lima beans (the regular not the baby lima beans) is next best.
Well enough of food (I get carried away because I didn't realize food could be so much better than before although the start was driven by economics and HSUS)
... this thread is supposed be ratio of female to male DAZ 3D products. That ratio doesn't bother me as the truth is I've now decided that I want to do Mother Goose renders using only G8 human models but still have trouble getting the look I want for the render and i have more than enough clothing & environment models so for me I've come to the conclusion that there is enough G8 males and females already and I will have to adapt what's available from every generation for clothing and environment to get as close to the look as I can for the render I want. DAZ will never produce enough modeled products for a coherant look for an entire graphic novel. I guess they get closest in Sci-Fi and modern detective but even those have a few gaps too but not glaring ones.
Darn you. Now I want lasagna. Lol.
I've just started challenging myself to render more male characters. I didn't do so for a very long time because I couldn't find characters who looked realistic. With the advent of fiber mesh hair and some content creators who were serious about making "non-toony men," I've really enjoyed broadening my horizons. It's definitely a challenge, however, because the "bottomless library of crap" that I have for my female characters just doesn't exist for my guys. I'm someone who literally doesn't have time to eat or pee during a vast majority of my workdays, so customizing and re-fitting and fiddling may be fun -- and I'm totally capable of doing so -- I just lack the time to prepare a "home cooked meal" for every render.
And, for the record -- Serene Night, I could stare at the hunks in your gallery for a looooong time.
There is both a male and a female character in the new Livin the dream bundle.
This is timely, because I was shopping for hair for the G8 male. Personally I try to create scenes that are "realistic", so if it's in a library none of my characters are wearing bikinis or six inch platform boots. But check out what's available for hair for males: Not much with receding hairlines, bald spots, etc. I'd rather have the over-25 males be bald in my scenes than have a grandpa with a thick full head of perfect hair.
Over 25 = grandpa?
There are some good G3M options like Deep Hairline, Thomas Hair, and Miles Hair that might help with what you are looking for. I believe there are some other G3 options but those are the ones I thought of right away.
I had not seen those, Deep Hairline is about what I'm looking for. Thanks!
In highschool I knew some folk going bald. If one doesn't have one of the male pattern baldness traits when they are born they aren't going to suddenly develop them at 25 or 50 or 75. The hair thickness is influenced alot by diet.
I think generally the forehead on the DAZ models is too low rather than the hairline being too low and that whole cranium complex set of interlocking bones is too small and no morphs either into the dozen, half-dozen most common shapes.
And i mean that for male, female, and tween models since DAZ doesn't do kid models.
All I was pointing out is that there aren't as many options for the males, and many of those are highly stylized. There are plenty of situations where the stylized, really well-designed hair is great but it would be nice to have more variety.
tee hee david5 in technotabby suit
posted here link if you'd like to see it
Aww thanks.... I understand completely. My free time to render is mostly on the weekends and during my vacation days due to family repsonsibilities. I find rendering men a very interesting challenge, not only content-wise, but also because of the strong preference for female stuff here and abroad as a subject matter.
I've always enjoyed doing stuff that is different than others though. I'm not particularly mainstream, so it kind of works.
Well, he's a male at least!
Cyclops for Genesis 8 Male
not the 1st time i mention it: i join in the choir of those who are definitely irked by the unfair M/F ratio - does it reflect the real world? DKDC.
also, while there's an effort to create many very diversified, probably good-looking females (can't appreciate nor judge), a lot of the already scarce males look average, and/or very similar, and/or belong to the same heroic/"hunky" stereotype - and then instead of more cute/hot guys you have... the ugly and/or toony ones. or those with uncorrected textures.
also, not enough Asian males.
and i agree about amazing superspecial recent-ish creations like aliens or fantasy that are sooo sadly female only (while i could swap G8 UVs now, someone mentioned HD morphs can't be ported and anyways i suck at transferring. so while i have the free transgender G8 morphs, with no body morphs for G8F there's not much variations for my fake males wearing female skins...). since i'm mentioning cross-stuff, i also regret that many UV or other tools don't work cross-gender, like M4 UVs for G8M is soo awesome but i'd like to be able to do V4 on G8M too, directly without using n additional tools and workarounds. this is something i loved with SY's gen4 clones for G8M - PA did include V4 :)
NOPE. this is a bit generalized. i absolutely don't. female here (doesn't mean i'm happy about it...), can't stand female characters, like, at all. i have to mentally block a load every time i scroll the catalog for the few dudes among the massive overflow of chicks. ~
EOR. (end of rant) ^^
I prefer female content to male; Ollie was the first G8M I bought, and he is awesome.
Threads like this make me glad I prefer female content, cause it sure would be frustrating if I found myself in the situation posters here are in.
I could use a few more hairpieces for men. Just common haircuts.
Personally I render a lot more women than men, but several of the most recent ideas that have come to my mind involve men, so I guess I'll be rendering more men soon.
I can always use more stuff for gen 8. More undies a tux would be welcome. A selection of ties. Male jewelry. Male uniforms. Holsters. Hair that can look wet, tied back or styled in the same style. Sleepwear. Hospital wear. Gym wear.
I presently seem to have a ton of male Mohawks and shorts. Jeans are also common. I never use goth, medieval, or fantasy wardrobes.
Ah, remember the old days when you could assign a gender to Genesis? Dial up for male or female, or for that matter, dial down for kids and I think baby. Clothing was pretty limited at the time, but I kind of liked having the one character that could switch genders. Or is that just me?
I remember some people loved it and some people kind of hated that the genesis 1 figures settled for looking only vaguely male or female without a full commitment.
But it was all shiny and new and was versatile, plus we had all those creature packs right away and didn't have to wait a year for them. Seemed better.
i just remember in the forums both here and in Renderosity about how much people hated it... I still use my Genesis figures but only for the fantasy stuff and think that especially G2-G8 got closer to a realistic human figure. Nonetheless, this points out the difficulty of trying to pleaee everyone: those who render only fantasy, those that render only realistic figures, those that render only men, those that render only women... which gets even more complicated what people buy as opposed to what they say i.e. the people who say they want more prudewear but buy only slutwear...
IMO, not many things are clearly better or worse, but just which trade-offs you prefer.
Genesis 1 had a number of advantages for being sexually fluid. But it also had disadvantages because of that.
So hey. Use what you prefer. ;)
I like to see more male products :(