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Filters maybe, as some folks out there have had issues with some of their filters not working such as G'mic, as for brushes all the ones I had installed in 2.8.22 are all there including the Photoshop ones..
...however a conventional skydome is like an umbrella and blocks out the Iray Sun no matter which mode you use. This is why it needs to have a "sunlight" as part of the dome. For example, were I to use one of the Cloud Nine dome maps which also includes a "sun" (in 3DL skydomes had "cast shadows" turned off which is not possible in Iray), and loaded into the environment sphere, it would create the ambient skylight effect, but there would be no actual sun so you would get a "cloudy day" effect instead. When using the "draw dome" setting in this manner, the Iray sun is also blocked.
In this scene which uses a UE HDR, the Iray "sun" is unable to penetrate the dome while the actual 3DL UE sun component would not work correctly had had to be turned off. Hence the shadows are too diffuse and inaccurate compared to the backdrop as they are being produced by the skylight effect only (shadow catch plane was turned on). Notice there is no shadow produced by the character even though there are distinct hard shadows in the backdrop.
Yeah, too bad the character shading is so flat. It she was shaded as nicely as the car and the texture details on the ground didn't look so flat that scene would be awesome.
...that's what happens when you don't have a sun. I had to do a lot of post to fix that (and the shadows were still incorrect/missing)
Welp. I'm definitely glad that this version doesn't uninstall 2.8, because the mask/gradient tools work VERY differently in 2.10 than in 2.8. I have absolutely no idea how to get a gradient mask working properly again. Every time I try to do a gradient mask within a selected area, instead of grading from foreground to background, it simply masks the entire selected area, or the entire layer if I don't select an area. It's such a dramatically different behavior that I can't tell if this is a bug or if it's doing what it's supposed to do and I just have no idea how to get it to do what I want.
EDIT: Yeah, there's both a bug and a major behavior change in there. The SamJ portable just does what I described above. The Partha portable seems to behave normally in terms of how the gradient tool behaves in the masked area, but as soon as you click "Apply Layer Mask", it just vanishes without doing anything.
vwrangler I don't have a problem with Samj's portable.
...so why is the "official" Gimp release having all these issues and the "third party" ones don't?
I never download major software from sources other than the "parent" one.
@vwrangler was referring to Samj's portable. I have found no issues with it yet in my usage. When third parties compile from development releases, I think they often work out bugs as they go with regards the plugins they add so they are sometimes ahead of the devs in this regard.
@themidget: Your attachment seems to show a simple color gradient, not a gradient layer mask.
In 2.8, what happened was that you'd take one image and put it into Gimp as a layer. Then take another image and add that as another layer. Then you either select an area or else you choose to work on the image as a whole. You choose the "Add layer mask" option, and in the Tools panel, option FG-BG (RGB). Then, using the gradient/blend tool, you draw a line from one part of the masked area to another, where you want the mask to end and begin. The mask would then fade the foreground image seamlessly into the background image. You then pick "Apply layer mask", and what you've done is accepted by the program.
Instead, both Samj's portable and Partha's portable are behaving as I've described in my earlier post. Neither is correctly applying the layer mask.
This part of what documentation there is explains how it's supposed to work, but this isn't what's happening:
https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-dialogs-structure.html#gimp-layer-mask
Unfortunately, the main Gimp site doesn't have a portable version. And I frankly do not want my brushes in Appdata; as long as Gimp 2.10 is insisting on putting brushes where it wants and not using the old location, I'm going to want to use the portables as the least bad option. I tried simply adding my 2.8 brushes location in preferences; it copied the brushes to the 2.10 preferences/brushes directory and deleted my 2.8 directory from preferences. (Without notifying me that it was doing that, mind.) The standard version did more or less the same thing.
(EDIT: ... Huh. Turns out that Partha's version, after a restart or ten, actually is using my old brushes location. Samj's isn't, but that may be fixable, now that I see what Partha's is doing.)
My apologies. Still no problem.
@themidget: Sorry to be persnicketty, and it's admittedly difficult to tell because the side panels are cut off, but if I'm understanding what I'm seeing, you haven't yet applied the layer mask -- the layers panel looks like it's showing your top layer with both the original image and the mask side by side, and the mask should disappear when it's applied.. What happens when you do that?
Sorry, I'll get it right someday! Here you go. Are you selecting the layer mask in the layers tab before creating your gradient?
Yes, I am. What Samj's version is doing now (and this is a change, because I shut down and restarted the program) is that now no matter what direction I draw, the gradient starts filling in from the top down. And then I tell it to apply, and then it vanishes without masking at all.
EDIT: And I just figured out part of what I was doing wrong, a bonehead simple mistake because there was a behavior change. Before, if you picked FG-BG mask, 2.8 assumed by default that it was a transparent mask. Now in 2.10 there's a dialog that pops up that says "Endpoint" and you have to out right tell itthat you want to have either foreground or background be transparent. (Hopefully it remembers your selection.)
That said ... once I pick "Apply layer mask", it still just disappears without having done anything.
Now that is confusing. Why don't you come over to Gimp Chat forum and we might be able to help you better. If you can, attach a screenshot of what is happening.
Thanks; I may give that a shot later in the day. I've spent too long on this as it is. Unfortunately, it's also kind of hard to do a screen shot of nothing happening, if you see what I mean, but I'll see if I can make it work.
(Also, it just changed behavior again, and now it's drawing more or less in the direction that I drag. No idea what I did to get it to do that.)
Hey, it might be a miracle. Technology is fun isn't it?
Well, for what it's worth, I've got Partha's standard installer version on my workplace computer, and it behaves exactly the same way as the portable does at home. Add layer mask, select mask, draw gradient where I want it to be and it seems to work, apply mask, mask disappears and looks like it's done absolutely nothing. I haven't altered any preferences on the workplace version except to tell it to use OpenCL and to add an alpha channel to imported images.
I even turned off the "add alpha channel" option just to make sure it wasn't interfering, and that didn't help. And I can't see how telling it to use OpenCL for hardware acceleration would make any difference. So I'm definitely stuck.
Oh, also, picking "Transparent" on the endpoint popup not only doesn't make any difference, but as far as I can tell, is a wrong thing to do anyway.
Topic submitted at Gimpchat, but without screenshots because I genuinely have no idea how to demonstrate nothing happening.
I downloaded and installed the windows 7 64 bit build directly from the GIMP site yesterday. Ran it through Avast and got no warnings, installed fine, works fine. If it's not picking up your old brushes location you can configure it to use any directories you want to find brushes via the preferences. I needed to close and reopen GIMP completely in order for it to reconize the brush directories I configured - just doing refresh in the brushes menu didn't pick up the directories.
Which themes are people using? Previously I had been using the vanilla/white theme, but I'm going to try out the dark grey theme, seems like the contrast is good/legible.
...thanks. Not really different from mapping a library location in Daz.
I just kept using the standard default theme. If it has new and easier to look at themes, that will be a good thing.
@vwrangler - this might be the solution to your problem - http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16481#p227576
Are you hitting enter after creating the gradient? If this is your problem I am going to kick myself really really hard because I noticed the difference between this and previous Gimps when I first started using 2.10.
That was exactly the issue. You don't have to hit Enter to fix the mask in 2.8, and the documentation I linked above says nothing about that step.
Once I did that, the Partha standard version worked just fine. I assume that the Samj and Partha portables will be just fine as well.
I did discover that both portables eventually started using the 2.8 directory that I was pointing them to. It took more than one program restart for me, for some reason, but eventually they got there.
I'm just using the default theme, which is the dark one. I did have to resize the icons, because the default are just wee tiny things, even though Gimp has been recompiled to be HiDPI aware (the menus and tool tips are actually easier to read in the new default than they were in 2.8) and a few of the icons for the tools are different enough from before that I want to be able to see them clearly to get used to them.
Still hiccups: http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16492
...ah well, guess I'll keep waiting as I use multiple folders to store images.
If I download GIMP, it's usually from a third party site (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to name it). I think GIMP is a great program, but I'm not going to try to download it if there are problems with the link or file.
My favorite "arty" has to be Paint .net. It's got lots of useful Plugins. Normal map creator, GIF animator, Photoshop brushes.
I've used Paint .net to animate a few frames that I had rendered. It takes a few tries to get the animation just the right speed, but the result is worth it.
It's a known bug that has been filed and will be sorted out. For some reason it doesn't seem to affect everyone. Samj and Partha are both highly respected within the Gimp community and I fully trust them and their sites but as a rule it is best to download only fom official sites. Any new updates will have bugs - even with commercial software this happens. If rapid opening and saving of files is important, it is probably best to stick to 2.8 until it is sorted out as kyoto kid says.
The problem seems to be only with versions that have 32 bit plugin support.
Clumsy UI, I think I'll stick to PS 6.
As with most open source software, the UI is adaptable to your requirements but if you already have a version of PS, perhaps you don't need Gimp anyway. I do because I simply can't afford PS and I think a lot of others are in the same boat.
...same here which is why I have used Gimp for years. Yeah since Adobe went to the cloud I know it is easier to afford than dropping 700$ all at once, However Gimp suits my needs well enough.
Gimp updated 2.10.2 with 44 bug fixes.