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O.T.: Legendary chip designer Jim Keller joins the Intel team

tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
edited April 2018 in The Commons

Jim Keller, the legendary CPU architect (who was partly responsible for the AMD Zen and Athlon 64 designs), who left AMD for Tesla in 2015, has joined Team Blue...

https://wccftech.com/former-amd-zen-athlon64-cpu-architect-jim-keller-joins-intel/

This follows a few other notable transistions and hires, including Raja Kojuri, who left AMD after a leave of absence last year to work for Intel.

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Intel is already reportedly working on it's own entry into the discrete GPU space, and has been struggling to bring 10nm chips to the masses.  Not sure what Jim's hire has in store for all of us, but I guess we'll find out if he has any more lightning left in his bottle...

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729

    Very interesting but I hope AMD can find new talent that keeps that competitive or even exceed intel designs. I feel like I'm on a throttled intel marketing cycle designed to milk as much money from my as is free for me to spend.

  • mtl1mtl1 Posts: 1,508

    Keller has a history of working on interesting projects: from the original Athlon, to working at PA Semi when it got acquired by Apple, his recent stint at Tesla, and now this. :)

    I believe his 'baby' at AMD was actually the ARM K12 project before he decided to back the Zen project instead.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,843

    I have used both AMD and Intel and while I currently like Intel best, I would go with what's best for my needs, so they both need to up their games!

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited April 2018

    Well both companies announced their quarterterly results, which were good, but as far as progress towards smaller nodes, it's a different story for each company:

    https://wccftech.com/amd-sampling-7nm-zen-2-cpus-later-this-year-launching-in-2019/

    Short form, AMD seems to be doing well with ther upcoming 7nm transition, but Intel is delaying volume production of it's 10nm process a bit longer, until 2019... we'll still see some 10nm Intel products this year, but in their latest earnings guidance, they've stated that they've pushed their roadmap back a bit...

    I think this is a first.  AMD has had it's moments in it's past where it has been able to achieve near parity, and a couple of Intel's bets haven't payed off in the past (same for AMD), but I don't ever remember seeing Intel stumbling this hard...

    Fortunately, Intel is in a pretty good spot right now performance-wise, and of course they still have most of the market share while they get things ironed out.  I don't think we'll see a return to the early Athlon days (when AMD actually managed to get close to half of the market share on the CPU front), but viewed through this lens, hiring Jim Keller with the hopes of breathing new life into the future product map makes a lot of sense. 

    If nothing else, at least AMD is putting pressure on Intel to keep their prices a bit lower in the meantime...

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,859

    ...read the story about this earlier today.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729
    edited April 2018

    It's disappointing to read that intel 10nm process is the litho equivalent of the AMD & others 7nm process. I feel like I am again trying to figure out what the actual size of digital storage is, computer monitor and television sizes, and so on.

    I think AMD over takes intel iand nVidia n the next decade, not that I'm a fan of one or the other, but I've always bought intel and with GPUs I had tried both nVidia & AMD but AMD usually were better quality system stability wise and cheaper too.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,859
    edited April 2018

    ...unfortunately AMD GPUs don't work with Iray

    However they will with Octane4.

    Should AMD indeed come out on top, it will be interesting to see how Daz responds, having fully integrated the Iray engine into their software.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,098

    why did I misread incel?

    the news is so depressing these days and that was a new word that did not enrich my vocabulary  BTW

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321
    nonesuch00 said:

    It's disappointing to read that intel 10nm process is the litho equivalent of the AMD & others 7nm process. I feel like I am again drying to figure out what the actual size of digital storage is, computer monitor and television sizes, and so on.

    I think AMD over takes intel iand nVidia n the next decade, not that I'm a fan of one or the other, but I've always bought intel and with GPUs I had tried both nVidia & AMD but AMD usually were better quality system stability wise and cheaper too.

    Agreed. One thing I really wish would go into the trash can (Not the recycling bin!) is the quoting of monitor sizes in the diagonal.
    I need to know the height and width, which normally isn't given. The diagonal doesn't tell me if it will fit on my station!

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,259
    Petercat said:
    nonesuch00 said:

    It's disappointing to read that intel 10nm process is the litho equivalent of the AMD & others 7nm process. I feel like I am again drying to figure out what the actual size of digital storage is, computer monitor and television sizes, and so on.

    I think AMD over takes intel iand nVidia n the next decade, not that I'm a fan of one or the other, but I've always bought intel and with GPUs I had tried both nVidia & AMD but AMD usually were better quality system stability wise and cheaper too.

    Agreed. One thing I really wish would go into the trash can (Not the recycling bin!) is the quoting of monitor sizes in the diagonal.
    I need to know the height and width, which normally isn't given. The diagonal doesn't tell me if it will fit on my station!

    There is a converter app (Windows) here:

    http://taosoft.dk/software/freeware/monsize/index.html

     

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