OT: Microsoft is watching us

We keep hearing about how Windows 10 snoops on what we do but I was  surprised when I started Chrome on my Win 10 laptop and a popup box appeared saying Edge is more secure. When I installed Win 10 I said no to all of the questions that involved sending any information to Microsoft, that obviously doesn't stop a bit of local snooping by the OS.

Maybe I'm old fashioned but I expect applications to just wait until I run them, not look over my shoulder and chip in with "helpful" suggestions whenever they feel like it. What's next? Popup messages in Studio saying I think you should move that light a few feet to the left? Please, please can we have Linux versions of Studio, Bryce and Carrara so we can leaqve this evil empire behind.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,795
    edited April 2018

    And you're sure that MS created the popup in Chrome? Sounds like a typical fake security popup you'd get in most browsers.

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  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,617
    edited April 2018

    Nohing like that on my Win 10 Pro, I think it's a Win 10 Home "feature".

    Edge ads appear with Firefox too.

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  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513

    And you're sure that MS created the popup in Chrome? Sounds like a typical fake security popup you'd get in most browsers.

    Nah this is a real thing: https://www.davescomputers.com/microsoft-telling-windows-10-users-edge-safer-chrome-firefox/

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,795

    And you're sure that MS created the popup in Chrome? Sounds like a typical fake security popup you'd get in most browsers.

    Nah this is a real thing: https://www.davescomputers.com/microsoft-telling-windows-10-users-edge-safer-chrome-firefox/

    LOL, that's funny they do that, although it's actually true, it's usually not successful to make such claims because people like the status their browser choice gives them. I have Windows 10 Pro so I guess that's why they don't do that to me? 

  • DireBunnyDireBunny Posts: 556

    Great! Between the government, Jesus , facebook and now MS watching me, I may actually need to get those curtains the neighbors keep petitiong i get.

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321
    DireBunny said:

    Great! Between the government, Jesus , facebook and now MS watching me, I may actually need to get those curtains the neighbors keep petitiong i get.

    Hang tough! Eventually they'll pay you to put curtains in, like my neighbors did.
    Free curtains, yay! (But vacuuming them is a pain.)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,043

    ...I've got heavy vertical blinds.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,043
    edited April 2018
    NoahLGP said:

    Nohing like that on my Win 10 Pro, I think it's a Win 10 Home "feature".

    Edge ads appear with Firefox too.

    ...yeah had I gone ahead with the free offer, I'd have W10 home (as at the time I had W7 Home) and thus minimal control over what's on my system (for example disabling Cortana [which is not only a "nag" feature but also collects data on searches] is a much more involved process on Home Edition than it is on Pro which includes hacking the registry).

    ...I think the next time I create an espionage expert character for the RPG I'm involved with I'll name her Cortana.

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  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    I don't know whether it makes any difference but I only use a local account in Windows 10 - never use my Microsoft account. I was not able to use the Microsoft Store at first but that seems to have been fixed now as I just tested with a free app. 

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    marble said:

    I don't know whether it makes any difference but I only use a local account in Windows 10 - never use my Microsoft account. I was not able to use the Microsoft Store at first but that seems to have been fixed now as I just tested with a free app. 

    I have Windows 8 and use only a local account. I couldn't give less of a crap what's in the Microsoft store. LOL. In fact, I disable every app that I'm able to.

    Laurie

     

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    AllenArt said:
    marble said:

    I don't know whether it makes any difference but I only use a local account in Windows 10 - never use my Microsoft account. I was not able to use the Microsoft Store at first but that seems to have been fixed now as I just tested with a free app. 

    I have Windows 8 and use only a local account. I couldn't give less of a crap what's in the Microsoft store. LOL. In fact, I disable every app that I'm able to.

    Laurie

     

    LOL, that's also the first time I've looked at the store in about 2 years so it isn't something I'd miss at all.

  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,617
    edited April 2018
    kyoto kid said:
    NoahLGP said:

    Nohing like that on my Win 10 Pro, I think it's a Win 10 Home "feature".

    Edge ads appear with Firefox too.

    ...yeah had I gone ahead with the free offer, I'd have W10 home (as at the time I had W7 Home) and thus minimal control over what's on my system (for example disabling Cortana [which is not only a "nag" feature but also collects data on searches] is a much more involved process on Home Edition than it is on Pro which includes hacking the registry).

    ...I think the next time I create an espionage expert character for the RPG I'm involved with I'll name her Cortana.

     

    Even if you "disable" Cortana but it keeps on running in background and spying what you are doing. Only Win 10 Entreprise or Education can really turn off Cortana.

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  • BlueIreneBlueIrene Posts: 1,318

    They knew from day one we'd need curtains, that's why they called it Windows. Microsoft has always watched us.

    'It looks like you're writing a letter...' :)

  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,675
    marble said:

    I don't know whether it makes any difference but I only use a local account in Windows 10 - never use my Microsoft account. I was not able to use the Microsoft Store at first but that seems to have been fixed now as I just tested with a free app. 

    I use a local account as well. I've got an account with the American audible.com store, I started before they had a British one. With the online Microssoft account I couldn't get it to authorise the DRM, it kept redirecting to the British site whatever I did. With a local account I can get this to work, although I do have to set my region and date formats to USA. I hate it when computers insist on being "helpful" whether you want it or not.

  • RitaCelesteRitaCeleste Posts: 625

    Yeah, I'm not too worried about being watch.  I mean Santa was watching, then God... Like once you get use to the idea Jesus is with you in the bathroom even, then well who cares if my life helps educate a few young up and coming AIs?  I'm not doing anything really interesting so if they look too hard they'll be bored to tears.  Punishment enough.

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,991

    Google collects your data all day long. You use their browser so they collect even more. Microsoft is showing you one popup. Conclusion: Microsoft is watching you? Sorry but the irony is strong here.

  • RitaCelesteRitaCeleste Posts: 625

    I remember something about one suggesting AI's monitor chats to keep them from becoming too toxic.  But I figure if they make the AI's do that, it won't take them long to figure out how to hijack some nukes when they decide earth would be much nicer without us all.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175

    Yeah, I'm not too worried about being watch.  I mean Santa was watching, then God... Like once you get use to the idea Jesus is with you in the bathroom even, then well who cares if my life helps educate a few young up and coming AIs?  I'm not doing anything really interesting so if they look too hard they'll be bored to tears.  Punishment enough.

    *sigh* I really wish people wouldn't think like this. Big Brother doesn't really care about your welfare ;).

    Google collects your data all day long. You use their browser so they collect even more. Microsoft is showing you one popup. Conclusion: Microsoft is watching you? Sorry but the irony is strong here.

    I use Google without logging into it. I only log in where I have to, give as little info as possible. Yeah, I'm paranoid, but that doesn't mean someone isn't out to get me. LOL

    Laurie

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    Tin foil hats are available on the "did you forget" shelf by the checkout.

  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,675

    We hear stories of A.I. taking over the world but I have noticed a rather sinister trend recently, AIs have taken up telephone scamming. I've had a few calls where an obviously synthesized voice has told me my Internet connection has been compromised and will be canceled unless I press 1 to connect to a technician to fix the problem.

  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,675
    Chohole said:

    Tin foil hats are available on the "did you forget" shelf by the checkout.

    But if you don't make your own tin foil hat, how to you know there isn't a radio relay micro-etched into the foil? Come to think of it, how do we know they aren't micro-etching radio relays into all kitchen foil in case it gets made into hats....

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    AllenArt said:

    Yeah, I'm not too worried about being watch.  I mean Santa was watching, then God... Like once you get use to the idea Jesus is with you in the bathroom even, then well who cares if my life helps educate a few young up and coming AIs?  I'm not doing anything really interesting so if they look too hard they'll be bored to tears.  Punishment enough.

    *sigh* I really wish people wouldn't think like this. Big Brother doesn't really care about your welfare ;).

    Google collects your data all day long. You use their browser so they collect even more. Microsoft is showing you one popup. Conclusion: Microsoft is watching you? Sorry but the irony is strong here.

    I use Google without logging into it. I only log in where I have to, give as little info as possible. Yeah, I'm paranoid, but that doesn't mean someone isn't out to get me. LOL

    Laurie

    Google still collects data when you are logged out. Its not on your profile, but they still do it. You can see this by using YouTube. You still get customized recommendations based on what you watch on YouTube even when logged out. 

    I'm saddened that people have forgotten that our savior Ceiling Cat is also watching over us.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,795
    edited April 2018

    I find it funny people completely ignore Goggle's pervasive data collection of their activities but get upset that MS does occacional advertising of their apps and services and bug collection activities on the Windows 10 platform.

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  • Rashad CarterRashad Carter Posts: 1,830
    edited April 2018
    AllenArt said:

    Yeah, I'm not too worried about being watch.  I mean Santa was watching, then God... Like once you get use to the idea Jesus is with you in the bathroom even, then well who cares if my life helps educate a few young up and coming AIs?  I'm not doing anything really interesting so if they look too hard they'll be bored to tears.  Punishment enough.

    *sigh* I really wish people wouldn't think like this. Big Brother doesn't really care about your welfare ;).

    Google collects your data all day long. You use their browser so they collect even more. Microsoft is showing you one popup. Conclusion: Microsoft is watching you? Sorry but the irony is strong here.

    I use Google without logging into it. I only log in where I have to, give as little info as possible. Yeah, I'm paranoid, but that doesn't mean someone isn't out to get me. LOL

    Laurie

    Google still collects data when you are logged out. Its not on your profile, but they still do it. You can see this by using YouTube. You still get customized recommendations based on what you watch on YouTube even when logged out. 

    I'm saddened that people have forgotten that our savior Ceiling Cat is also watching over us.

    Troubling though ceiling cat may be, we at least can summize that ceiling cat either wants to pounce on you for play for pounce on you for food. What do these OTHER watchers want from us? The lyric should have been:  "I've got a feeling some sort of something is watching me."

    Post edited by Rashad Carter on
  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679

    I find it funny people completely ignore Goggle's pervasive data collection of their activities but get upset that MS does occacional advertising of their apps and services and bug collection activities on the Windows 10 platform.

    This has always amazed me, too. But Google lets us find cat gifs. So Google gets a pass.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    Chohole said:

    Tin foil hats are available on the "did you forget" shelf by the checkout.

    Already have one ;).

     

     

    I find it funny people completely ignore Goggle's pervasive data collection of their activities but get upset that MS does occacional advertising of their apps and services and bug collection activities on the Windows 10 platform.

    This has always amazed me, too. But Google lets us find cat gifs. So Google gets a pass.

    I've never like ANY of it frankly. And I really don't like that people are so blasé about their privacy. I think they should be concerned. But, that's just me. Of course, you can't even stub a toe nowdays without someone listening or watching, whether it's in your car, your house or out on the street. The fact that I'm not doing anything wrong is completely beside the point. The point is they don't NEED to now what I'm doing. And by they I mean any company, individual or (gasp) government.

    :)

    Laurie

  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513

    I find it funny people completely ignore Goggle's pervasive data collection of their activities but get upset that MS does occacional advertising of their apps and services and bug collection activities on the Windows 10 platform.

    It's pretty simple. If I use a free service I expect the company to take data I deliberately gave them by entering it into the service.

    If I buy a program, I expect it not to send a whiff of data to the company unless it explicitly asks me first.

  • GrazeGraze Posts: 418
    edited April 2018

    I was looking at google maps.  Arial view of satelite images.  Zoomed in on my home.  How's that for being watched?  Imagine someone lying out on their patio in the buff thinking a high fence is enough. LOL.

     

    Acording to Wikipedia,  "most of the high-resolution imagery of cities is photos taken from aircraft flying at 800 to 1,500 feet."  So that plane was not just simply flying over you.

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Of course they are.

    You thought the W10 upgrade was free?

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,285
    AllenArt said:

     

    I'm saddened that people have forgotten that our savior Ceiling Cat is also watching over us.

    So is Sting & The Police

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