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Future of 3Delight Presentation

RobotHeadArtRobotHeadArt Posts: 917
edited April 2018 in The Commons

Here is an interesting talk about the future version of 3Delight that will be shipped with Foundry's Katana 3.0.

https://vimeo.com/263539245

I wonder if the DAZ Studio version of 3Delight will ever get upgraded to this future one.

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  • Daywalker DesignsDaywalker Designs Posts: 3,586
    Can't say for sure, but even if it doesn't, I'm sure you can export to rib and use that in the stand-alone version which most likely will.
  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    RobotHeadArt said:

    Here is an interesting talk about the future version of 3Delight that will be shipped with Foundry's Katana 3.0.

    https://vimeo.com/263539245

    I wonder if the DAZ Studio version of 3Delight will ever get upgraded to this future one.

    Thanks for sharing the link! Very interesting!

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,928

    ...so effectively we are using the "Frankenstein" version here, still REYES but with some ray tracing.

    Oh how nice that would be to have more simplified parameters.

    As to using a new standalone (hopefully still free), that would still need the Daz to RIB transfer and it would remain to be seen how many CPU cores one can use in it before shelling out a lot of zlotys.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,928

    ...another thought came across this morning.  Considering that Daz seems to be pumping Iray over 3DL (most new products coming out are Iray only) I am wondering if they would even be inclined to adopt the new version of 3DL.

  • RobotHeadArtRobotHeadArt Posts: 917
    kyoto kid said:

    ...another thought came across this morning.  Considering that Daz seems to be pumping Iray over 3DL (most new products coming out are Iray only) I am wondering if they would even be inclined to adopt the new version of 3DL.

    From the presentation it looks like the shaders, render settings, and lights would be totally incompatible with the existing implementation of 3DL in DAZ Studio so the developer work effort would probably be like adding a 3rd render engine to DAZ Studio.

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,352

    Man that guy just yammered away and then finally showed off something.  Should have worn a mic that was fitted to him with all this turning here and there.... bad presentation.  I liked the info when we finally got to see it though. 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,928
    RobotHeadArt said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...another thought came across this morning.  Considering that Daz seems to be pumping Iray over 3DL (most new products coming out are Iray only) I am wondering if they would even be inclined to adopt the new version of 3DL.

    From the presentation it looks like the shaders, render settings, and lights would be totally incompatible with the existing implementation of 3DL in DAZ Studio so the developer work effort would probably be like adding a 3rd render engine to DAZ Studio.

    ...part of my point. 

    While the new version employs MDL shaders which are more compatible with Iray it would pretty much be incompatible with older content that is based on RSL shaders, unless a new set of basic 3DL"Uber" shader presets (similar to the Iray ones) were also included.  Not sure of how much a headache that would be for development.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,347
    kyoto kid said:
    RobotHeadArt said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...another thought came across this morning.  Considering that Daz seems to be pumping Iray over 3DL (most new products coming out are Iray only) I am wondering if they would even be inclined to adopt the new version of 3DL.

    From the presentation it looks like the shaders, render settings, and lights would be totally incompatible with the existing implementation of 3DL in DAZ Studio so the developer work effort would probably be like adding a 3rd render engine to DAZ Studio.

    ...part of my point. 

    While the new version employs MDL shaders which are more compatible with Iray it would pretty much be incompatible with older content that is based on RSL shaders, unless a new set of basic 3DL"Uber" shader presets (similar to the Iray ones) were also included.  Not sure of how much a headache that would be for development.

    They are a diffrent standard, OSL not MDL. Renderman also uses OSL now.

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679

    Considering he only mentions Katana, it doesn't seem likely Daz would get it.

    Has the Daz 3DL plugin even updated at all since Iray came along?

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    RAMWolff said:

    Man that guy just yammered away and then finally showed off something.  Should have worn a mic that was fitted to him with all this turning here and there.... bad presentation.  I liked the info when we finally got to see it though. 

    Yeah totally agree=) Would have been nice to hear about the actual stuff and see some amazing renders, but still interesting topicwink

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    edited April 2018
    outrider42 said:

    Considering he only mentions Katana, it doesn't seem likely Daz would get it.

    Has the Daz 3DL plugin even updated at all since Iray came along?

    No major updates as far as I know, last one was after DS4.7, when 3DL suddenly rendered darker images, though a little fasterfrown

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,347
    edited April 2018
    outrider42 said:

    Considering he only mentions Katana, it doesn't seem likely Daz would get it.

    Has the Daz 3DL plugin even updated at all since Iray came along?

    I think we've had a new version, yes.

    4.9.0.2  Update to 3delight 12.0.27

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • Kevin SandersonKevin Sanderson Posts: 1,643

    Yep, we got the raytracer speed improvements I think in 4.9.0.2, and some other tweaks.

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,928
    edited April 2018
    Richard Haseltine said:
    kyoto kid said:
    RobotHeadArt said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...another thought came across this morning.  Considering that Daz seems to be pumping Iray over 3DL (most new products coming out are Iray only) I am wondering if they would even be inclined to adopt the new version of 3DL.

    From the presentation it looks like the shaders, render settings, and lights would be totally incompatible with the existing implementation of 3DL in DAZ Studio so the developer work effort would probably be like adding a 3rd render engine to DAZ Studio.

    ...part of my point. 

    While the new version employs MDL shaders which are more compatible with Iray it would pretty much be incompatible with older content that is based on RSL shaders, unless a new set of basic 3DL"Uber" shader presets (similar to the Iray ones) were also included.  Not sure of how much a headache that would be for development.

    They are a diffrent standard, OSL not MDL. Renderman also uses OSL now.

    ..but isn't OSL more compatible with PBR (and vice versa)?

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
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