Galleries What Earns Your Like ?

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729
    Chohole said:

    I think people don’t use tags because they aren’t easy to use or setup and some features depending on the device aren’t readily accessible.  I also think the tags are kind of broad. The store software doesn’t allow for say gallery management on my iPad either.

    My beef is not that they don't use tags, it is that when they do use them they use them incorrectly, thus making the whole tag system useless.  If Daz had restricted the use of tags to just one category or at most 2 for each image then the sytem would work.  They would have to use an either/or  rather than clicking every tag for every image.

    Edited to add:-   Take this image for example.  I found this by using the Environement Category.
    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/images/557806

    Can you see how many tags, and tag sub sections have been added

    I will copy and paste, in case you can't

    Tags

    Had the tag system been used correctly then this would have been labelled as 

    and then a choice of

    I use Enviroment or Nature tags only when such is used if the character(s) are placed in an HRDI or 3D environment. I don't when it is just a 'portrait studio' style setup. Of course if I'm using bought or freebie HRDIs or the same with 3D environments then they aren't original.

  • Carola OCarola O Posts: 3,857
    edited April 2018

    In the picture Cho linked, I would have personally used Female, Portrait, and possible Model as tags. Though I think many people tag as much as possible, wether it's relevant or not, either to ge the picture seen as much as often, or because they don't realise it might cause annoyance. At times it can be hard to figure out what to tag a picture as, in my opinion atleast. And as such it might be easier to just tag with what they think would work? Not sure if I made much sense, but that's my thoughts on it, I do admit I sometimes look at tags and wonder what the artist was thinking tagging the picture like that. I'm sure there might be those that do the same with mine as well, as I'm far from perfect when it comes to tag pics :) I try, keyword being Try, to tag pictures with what is relevant to them, though I'm the first to admit that I am likely doing mistakes every now and than.

     

    On what kind of pictures that earn my likes *pondering* I can't really say, pictures that "speak" to me, those that tell a story or several at times, some pictures earn a like because I simply find them beautiful, or adorable. I don't comment on all pictures I like, sometimes because I don't know what to say or simply can't find the words to express what I want to say :)

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    i like z depth.  the D in 3d.  a good backfill light to make it pop. and composition.  more exciting than rule of thirds

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited April 2018

    I prefer to choose my own tags. If I want to look at #hotmen or #robots or possibly both at the same time wink I find it cumbersome to select from store chosen hashtags.

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,133
    edited April 2018

    I gravitate towards anything that looks like cool, creative sci-fi or great postwork first. But I will "Like" anything of any genre that pops, that strikes me as different, creative, amazing lighting, super photoreal, or really great postwork. I love good postwork. Some people (very few) do great straight renders but I think even those can be improved with postwork. So many times I see a cool image that would be 100% better if it had just some basic postwork done to it. And this guy, Shannon Maer https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#galleries/168280 OMG, is amazing, almost all postwork with very little of the original render left! I saw some of his YouTube videos and he really inspires me!  Also, I like portraits with really well done expressions, so many people just have the character staring into space...

    I don't care if something is sexy or not, things are pretty tame here, and I create sexy art myself. Horror, I rarely click on, even if it looks like a great image, not my thing. And there are two types of images I like: Images that catch my eye, whether they are sexy, toons, portraits, scenes, whatever, or ART that I could see putting on my wall or could go in an art gallery--which I believe, always demands postwork...

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,133

    I think people don’t use tags because they aren’t easy to use or setup and some features depending on the device aren’t readily accessible.  I also think the tags are kind of broad. The store software doesn’t allow for say gallery management on my iPad either.

    I discovered that if you hold the iPad in landscape mode rather than portrait, you can do everything you can on a computer...

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,861

    The shot has to tell a story,  or suggest a developed concept.  A complex scene that took time to put together  I'll apreciate the hard work that went into it.  I also like when the expression is just right to convey the emotion. 

    ...yes

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729

    I gravitate towards anything that looks like cool, creative sci-fi or great postwork first. But I will "Like" anything of any genre that pops, that strikes me as different, creative, amazing lighting, super photoreal, or really great postwork. I love good postwork. Some people (very few) do great straight renders but I think even those can be improved with postwork. So many times I see a cool image that would be 100% better if it had just some basic postwork done to it. And this guy, Shannon Maer https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#galleries/168280 OMG, is amazing, almost all postwork with very little of the original render left! I saw some of his YouTube videos and he really inspires me!  Also, I like portraits with really well done expressions, so many people just have the character staring into space...

    I don't care if something is sexy or not, things are pretty tame here, and I create sexy art myself. Horror, I rarely click on, even if it looks like a great image, not my thing. And there are two types of images I like: Images that catch my eye, whether they are sexy, toons, portraits, scenes, whatever, or ART that I could see putting on my wall or could go in an art gallery--which I believe, always demands postwork...

    I think those are Poser renders with postwork. They are really good but really I don't find them better than a non-postworked render done using the BOSS Pro Portrait Light set when done right. They are essentially the same - portraits

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited April 2018

    I think for me postwork add a level of personalization that you just don’t get with straight renders. Those images look better to me and more artistic than any base figure with box lighting. They don’t look the same to me at all. 

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  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479

    I think for me postwork add a level of personalization that you just don’t get with straight renders. Those images look better to me and more artistic than any base figure with box lighting. They don’t look the same to me at all. 

    I agree. I see all of it as Art. For example, IRL, I really like the works of Leroy Neiman. I also really like the works of the "Dutch Masters". And a whole lot of styles in between. I like sculpture, oil paint, watercolor, photography… I don't see it as an either/or. The same with 3D art, and whether or not it incorporates "postwork". So when I look at gallery images, I don't care if it uses postwork or not. Do I like the end result? Does it move me in some way, make me feel something? Or is it just more of the same ol' same ol'? (Yes, to me, "T&A" is "same ol' same ol'.") In the end, it all comes down to personal taste. And when it comes to personal taste, there is no right or wrong. (Caveat, To be clear, I'm talking about artwork, not things which are illegal.)

  • srieschsriesch Posts: 4,243

    I mostly silently enjoy without commenting because I don't have much useful to say, but I try to comment on the ones I like the best so the artist at least knows somebody is looking.  I wish there were a better way for me to voice my appreciation other than saying "Nice!" over and over until it appears to loose meaning (even if I can't express it well, I do still enjoy everybody's galleries.)  I am pretty picky though, so it's still a small percentage of things I see that stand out for me, much of it (even well-done works) just seem to blur together if they are too similar. 

    I could list the types of things I have a personal preference for, but that really wouldn't provide much feedback about what's good, it's only what I personally like, which varies dramatically from person to person without regard to actual artwork quality.  so, instead I will point out one interesting thing I discovered about myself when replying; there are a number of works that I thought were really really good EXCEPT for one detail that made me decide to not leave a comment.  Maybe it would have been a perfect scene, well thought out, original, great lighting, but the ground material was very low resolution and looked blurry.  Or it was a fantastic original idea but the figure has a horribly unrealistic pose, angle of joints was literally the only flaw. And I really want to encourage that artist, but don't want to say "hey, that's FANTASTIC but you really , really really need to fix that horrible ground material and then it'll be perfect" because of course that sounds supper picky and negative.  So, I say nothing.  (unless somebody specifically asks for a critique I have no concerns and list off whatever I see and let the artist decide what to change and what to ignore, but that's usually in a forum thread where somebody asks, not a gallery with final works.)  So there are a lot of people out there that I think are great, but that image doesn't get a comment because of that.

    Another thing that makes me comment is an image that captures my attention.  It might not be a top-of-the-line picture; it will be good or I wouldn't comment, but perhaps isn't very well lit as it could be, or might not have the best materials, or it is good but unlikely to win a contest competing with many other of the best images around it.   However for whatever reason I actually stopped the click-view-click-view-click-view-click-view of going through the gallery and just spent time looking at it.   Whatever it was that got my interest might be something sublte and I might not even know why, but it forced me to stop and appreciate the work much longer than all the other gallery images.  That's worth a comment, because it's not very common.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,761

    I gravitate towards anything that looks like cool, creative sci-fi or great postwork first. But I will "Like" anything of any genre that pops, that strikes me as different, creative, amazing lighting, super photoreal, or really great postwork. I love good postwork. Some people (very few) do great straight renders but I think even those can be improved with postwork. So many times I see a cool image that would be 100% better if it had just some basic postwork done to it. And this guy, Shannon Maer https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#galleries/168280 OMG, is amazing, almost all postwork with very little of the original render left! I saw some of his YouTube videos and he really inspires me!  Also, I like portraits with really well done expressions, so many people just have the character staring into space...

    I don't care if something is sexy or not, things are pretty tame here, and I create sexy art myself. Horror, I rarely click on, even if it looks like a great image, not my thing. And there are two types of images I like: Images that catch my eye, whether they are sexy, toons, portraits, scenes, whatever, or ART that I could see putting on my wall or could go in an art gallery--which I believe, always demands postwork...

    I think those are Poser renders with postwork. They are really good but really I don't find them better than a non-postworked render done using the BOSS Pro Portrait Light set when done right. They are essentially the same - portraits

    Actually these are overpainted almost entirely. She does fantastic work but I believe that the render is merely a base for her to paint over.  She has more than several how to and speedpaint videos on You Tube.  I really admire her work but her purpose is definitely to paint her own vision and style into her art.  Just like anyone, she uses the tools as she sees fit to bring what's in her head out into the world.

     

  • RitaCelesteRitaCeleste Posts: 625

    I like a nice compostion, or a nice character, good posing cause I'm not good yet, or a good idea even it it isn't quite there yet. On images, I am impressed with extra efforts it took to make the image.  I try to like images when I feel something good is being ignored while groovy guy with the huge renderer is getting a billion likes. Yes, its good work, but he really doesn't need my vote too does he?  But I don't vote for complete cheese either.  I have to like it and think they deserve a look and a vote.  People's eyes are drawn to certain things and I am no different.  You may not play a note but you know a good song when you hear one, same with art.  People respond to certain things even if they aren't able to craft a work to speak to that themselves.  Your brain is wired to respond to quality in music, art, etc even you are unaware of why that is or one billion unspoken rules that govern our responses and would be the art rules that don't exist supposedly.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,761

    As for what earns my likes, well, first I have to remember to actually go and look.  I have a hard time remembering to post my own stuff.  But when I do I usually go  through several pages.

    Friends will always get a like (again, when I remember to look for them.  half the time I can't remember to click on a signature link in their posts!)

    I don't care how much postwork it has, I am personally a big fan of postwork myself but I appreciate a well put together scene either way.  I don't mind the skimp, but there is so much of it, if I'm going to give it a like its going to have to be absolutely stunning. 

    I will also like renders that have zero likes or if I can tell, after visiting their gallery, that they are fairly new.  I try and leave them an encouraging comment, even if its just something like, great color choices, or great posing or whatever. Nothing worse than posting something and it gets completely ignored, especially if you are new and don't undertand how it really works

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,861

    ...as to postwork I am very limited as I cannot do digital painting due to not having a steady hand anymore and inability to use a graphics tablet.  Mostly I just apply filters when appropriate, maybe a special effect like a starburst or lens flare, or for overlaying text but that is about it.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,761
    kyoto kid said:

    ...as to postwork I am very limited as I cannot do digital painting due to not having a steady hand anymore and inability to use a graphics tablet.  Mostly I just apply filters when appropriate, maybe a special effect like a starburst or lens flare, or for overlaying text but that is about it.

    Nothing wrong with that, your scenes are usually beautifully done. 

  • DireBunnyDireBunny Posts: 556
    sriesch said:

    I mostly silently enjoy without commenting because I don't have much useful to say, but I try to comment on the ones I like the best so the artist at least knows somebody is looking.  I wish there were a better way for me to voice my appreciation other than saying "Nice!" over and over until it appears to loose meaning (even if I can't express it well, I do still enjoy everybody's galleries.)  I am pretty picky though, so it's still a small percentage of things I see that stand out for me, much of it (even well-done works) just seem to blur together if they are too similar. 

    I'm pretty much the same. I silently like.(stealth like?) Unless i happen to catch someone i know. But for me it's also a matter of what do i/can i say that everyone hasn't already said. Plus the message system in the gallery isn't all that great. Most of the time , even though i have it checked, I never even see an email about comments,and then you can't really reply back.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,861
    kyoto kid said:

    ...as to postwork I am very limited as I cannot do digital painting due to not having a steady hand anymore and inability to use a graphics tablet.  Mostly I just apply filters when appropriate, maybe a special effect like a starburst or lens flare, or for overlaying text but that is about it.

    Nothing wrong with that, your scenes are usually beautifully done. 

    ...thank you.

  • I don't like 

    Anything made in 3DL

    Men

    Pictures that don't say what clothes they are using

     

  • reserv888reserv888 Posts: 1,164

    Interesting thread. Every one likes differest things. Watching the most liked images in the galleries shows people in general likes other types of images than I do.

    I like images that seems like screenshots from a movie. That has a story where you can sense a "before" and an "after".

    I think portraits are boring. I've made a few myself but they are none the less boring. I've liked and commented on portraits because I find them interesting, but that is in spite they are portraits.

    I like buildings/environments as a part of the image. DAZ has released so many fantastic buildings it is disturbing (to me) how few of the most liked images in the galleries that uses such items. If they are present at all, they are usually heavily blurred. Often beyond recognition.

    Oh, one more thing. I really like good poses, that looks real and interacts in a believable way with the environment. And well done eyes, that has life and really seems to watch something. (The last thing is really hard to accomplish and kudos to those who are good at it).

  • I tend to give likes to images that are not female-centric, since I feel a pretty face will get a lot of likes from other people.  Nicely done images with males, animals, or scenery, you've got my like.  I'm indifferent on post work, as I appreciate well done images with or without it.

    But I admit most of my own renders in the gallery are female centric.  And I tend to pull in the thumbnails close to the face, cutting out most of the scene unless you click into the image.  I thought, based on what gets the most likes, that was the thing to do.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited April 2018

    I don’t even click on images of women anymore most of the time unless there is something else in the scene. Deviant and the marketplace here are saturated with images of females and their content  and and a lot of it looks Samey. It isn’t that these images aren’t good it’s just that pretty women saturate my screen everywhere I go so I get a bit numbed and prefer looking at anything else.

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  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885

    I don't browse the galleries much.  There's great work in there, don't get me wrong, but not that much that makes me go "wow."  Lots of "That's pretty. That's nice. That's cute."  the occasional "That's really well done."

    To get a "like" from me, the response has to be more than "that's nice."

    What gets that response?  That's harder to define.  Artwork by some artists that use to get likes, now doesn't, because it's more of the same by that artist.  I'm looking for a wow factor.  Photoreal portraits don't cut it unless the portrait itself is remarkable somehow (just mimicing a photo isn't enough any more).  Pinups don't cut it unless there's something striking about the use of light and shadows.  Toons have to make me laugh out loud.  action stills and story pictures have to make me care about what's happening - without reading the captions.

    Kinda related to "it's the tools and the artist" thread - as the tools have made certain technical aspects of CG easier, I demand more from the artistic side before I'm impressed.  And for the record, no.  A lot of my own artwork doesn't meet my standards - yet.

    Postwork - I'm not a fan of doing it, and I prefer when it's "invisible" or otherwise the sort of thing that I only know is postwork because I know the limitations of the medium (waves, sometimes smoke, certain lighting effects that sort of thing) or when it swings the opposite way and is very obvious to get a certain artistic effect (filters to simulate watercolor and brush strokes, for example, or film damage)

  • 31415926543141592654 Posts: 975

    I browse the gallery to get inspiration and ideas. Technically well done images of almost any theme and style will get my attention (iray, 3delight, toon, medieval, science, etc). And I will tend to give a like, but I rarely comment. If it has a product that I have also purchased, it can get my attention as well as I will see what they have done that made the image so good.

  • WahilWahil Posts: 308
    Butch said:

    See, I really like images that are photoshopped. I tend to prefer them since they tend to display a lot of creativity. 

    I don't dismiss them altogether.  Wonder Woman, currently in second place is fantastic. 

    Three things.

    1) An image that makes me ask 'how?' as in how did they achieve a certain look or effect. If it's too easy to figure out, I'm not really impressed enough to hit the heart.

    2) An image so Clever, I am entertained or at least enjoy the creativity or idea or concept behind the image.

    3) It's someone I "know" from the forum. Auto-likes for me pals.

    That makes sense.   

    That would explain why some people have roughly the same number of Likes for everything they upload.

    But it really does not make sense in terms of helping the artist grow and improve, or making them stop and think if their lower quality work is automatically Liked.

  • WahilWahil Posts: 308

    I gravitate towards anything that looks like cool, creative sci-fi or great postwork first. But I will "Like" anything of any genre that pops, that strikes me as different, creative, amazing lighting, super photoreal, or really great postwork. I love good postwork. Some people (very few) do great straight renders but I think even those can be improved with postwork. So many times I see a cool image that would be 100% better if it had just some basic postwork done to it. And this guy, Shannon Maer https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#galleries/168280 OMG, is amazing, almost all postwork with very little of the original render left! I saw some of his YouTube videos and he really inspires me!  Also, I like portraits with really well done expressions, so many people just have the character staring into space...

    I don't care if something is sexy or not, things are pretty tame here, and I create sexy art myself. Horror, I rarely click on, even if it looks like a great image, not my thing. And there are two types of images I like: Images that catch my eye, whether they are sexy, toons, portraits, scenes, whatever, or ART that I could see putting on my wall or could go in an art gallery--which I believe, always demands postwork...

    I think those are Poser renders with postwork. They are really good but really I don't find them better than a non-postworked render done using the BOSS Pro Portrait Light set when done right. They are essentially the same - portraits

    Actually these are overpainted almost entirely. She does fantastic work but I believe that the render is merely a base for her to paint over.  She has more than several how to and speedpaint videos on You Tube.  I really admire her work but her purpose is definitely to paint her own vision and style into her art.  Just like anyone, she uses the tools as she sees fit to bring what's in her head out into the world.

     

    Actually, I think Shannon is a guy.  At least according to Daz when Daz says "his business" https://www.daz3d.com/explore/user-stories/explore-shannon-maer

  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513
    Wahil said:

    I gravitate towards anything that looks like cool, creative sci-fi or great postwork first. But I will "Like" anything of any genre that pops, that strikes me as different, creative, amazing lighting, super photoreal, or really great postwork. I love good postwork. Some people (very few) do great straight renders but I think even those can be improved with postwork. So many times I see a cool image that would be 100% better if it had just some basic postwork done to it. And this guy, Shannon Maer https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#galleries/168280 OMG, is amazing, almost all postwork with very little of the original render left! I saw some of his YouTube videos and he really inspires me!  Also, I like portraits with really well done expressions, so many people just have the character staring into space...

    I don't care if something is sexy or not, things are pretty tame here, and I create sexy art myself. Horror, I rarely click on, even if it looks like a great image, not my thing. And there are two types of images I like: Images that catch my eye, whether they are sexy, toons, portraits, scenes, whatever, or ART that I could see putting on my wall or could go in an art gallery--which I believe, always demands postwork...

    I think those are Poser renders with postwork. They are really good but really I don't find them better than a non-postworked render done using the BOSS Pro Portrait Light set when done right. They are essentially the same - portraits

    Actually these are overpainted almost entirely. She does fantastic work but I believe that the render is merely a base for her to paint over.  She has more than several how to and speedpaint videos on You Tube.  I really admire her work but her purpose is definitely to paint her own vision and style into her art.  Just like anyone, she uses the tools as she sees fit to bring what's in her head out into the world.

     

    Actually, I think Shannon is a guy.  At least according to Daz when Daz says "his business" https://www.daz3d.com/explore/user-stories/explore-shannon-maer

    Definitely a guy unless something changed recently.

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