Daz & Facebook?

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited March 2018

    Privacy is an illusion. The last time my data was breached, was by a credit reporting agency. One of those companies that collects your data when you apply for credit. Prior to that it was Target, and my health insurance provider.  Anytime a computer is connected to the net, your data has the potential to be compromised. Even companies you never gave permission to have your data may have your data for some reason.

    I find it frustrating that people are so careles, but the cat is out of the bag for me now. The facebook issues are nothing compared to what has already been done by companies who should know better and should have well paid security teams.

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    People are careless generally because they are overwhelmed.

    The point to having regulations and government checks on stuff like this is so I don’t have to check that my blankets don’t have toxic elements, that my car won’t explode, that my food isn’t tainted...

     

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,084

    Let us not get into politics please.

  • hphoenixhphoenix Posts: 1,335

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729
    Oso3D said:

    People are careless generally because they are overwhelmed.

    The point to having regulations and government checks on stuff like this is so I don’t have to check that my blankets don’t have toxic elements, that my car won’t explode, that my food isn’t tainted...

     

    My data also has been breached multiple times at the same businesses @SereneNight's data has been stolen from with the addition insult that my private data was stolen directly from the US government in the metro Washington, DC area. The federal government then had the gall to offer to pay for one year of personal identiy theft montitoring from the personal identity theft monitoring business of their choice! Of course I said no as that is a conflict of interest for the government. Their whole reason for exsistence is securing the safety of it's own citizens not crassly using it's lax attention to enforcing the letter of the existing law to profit off it's citizens. 

    So if people are human and can't be trusted when the temptation is there or are simply too emotional and mistake prone then those things should necessarily be taken over by computer automation. In a computer 1 + 1 is always going to be 2. Not, I though I only saw 1 and such shenanigans. Sure there are boundary cases that have to be added from time to time but nothing is more secure than a algoritm unemotionally checking for such things without incentive for itself for wealth, fame, health, or all those other humanistic gotchas that a very few people keep getting caught taking advantage of for their own benefit.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    hphoenix said:

    LOL love the second one ;)

    Laurie

  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310

    And there's just not much you can do when some of these insecure things you can't actually opt out of. (Like the credit score company one) 

     

    Honestly there's no way to keep yourself completely safe so I go with "don't do anything completely stupid and then don't spend so much time stressing and worrying about it that it starts effecting your life" 

     

    Google always knows where I am.... Slightly creepy. But Google maps is really useful, the govt can probably track your phone regardless, so unless you give up your phone entirely...

     

    We're all part of an increasingly interconnected and techy world unless you move to the woods, have a well, and start growing your own food, get some solar panels and a generator you... Wait no still have to pay taxes and you have an address and the satellites can see your house. Maybe a secret underground bunker? You can grow mushrooms I guess?

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    Didn’t intend to be political.

    Simply, people look for broader limitations and control because all of us can’t be experts in everything, and we have only so much energy to be fully informed on every choice I make..

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    Yes the one year credit reporting monitoring service was a ridiculously Low value item considering my medical records and information could result in Id theft which could impact me for life not to mention he privacy issues involved,. Especially since the companies they use are smalltime bargain rate low bidders. No thank.

    I was just informed about the credit monitor service being breached..... since I did sign up for lifelock after my health records were stolen....   I learned my info was on the dark web and on a list they had found. That’s the second time, There Really nothing I can do to stop the hackers now... except monitor my credit, which I do loosely. 

     

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729

    Nothing political in motive in stating facts, even if those facts reveal government involvement. That is life. But...underestimated as a way to avoid identy and property theft is to be broke all the time. Thank you DAZ 3D. laugh

    Really, I've went on Googlemaps and look up satelitte views of my and kin's homes and former homes and business that don't even exist anymore dating in some cases all the way back to 1997. The frequency of those data captures is increasing and in higher resolution too. Those aren't Google's own satellites and money being used as source material to make those maps or satellites we can be sure. Why? Because I've always like geography and geology and a bit of nostalia too. 

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    Personally while I’m angry and distrustful of Facebook, it provides such a vital part of keeping in touch with far flung friends and family that I don’t feel like I have much choice. And an end to Facebook with no similar replacement would be horrible for me.

    I also think that people are overlooking the degree to which services like Facebook provide a valuable social venue for people who, for a variety of reasons, find it difficult to leave their homes.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729

    I visited India recently and they use WhatsApp. I think because FB is too heavy on their phones. At any rate, WhatsApp is owned by FB too.

    In China they also have a couple of social networks & Brazil used to and may still have there own social network. I think Russia has it's own social network. 

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    I do agree with oso3d. Facebook is an invaluable source of entertainment for those who might otherwise be unconnected. Without it my mom would not know about her older relatives whose children post pictures as they don’t write any longer.  Mom also loves the jokes, animal pics and local news

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited March 2018

    I've always had the strategy of giving as little information as possible on the net, and using aliases whenever possible.  Also, I keep my SS# exposure to an absolute minimum (I pretty much never share that online, only in person).  Facebooks TOS asks that you use your real name, and sure, I could lie and use an alias (and violate their TOS), but combined with the other information they collect yeah I said pass... and have never regretted not having a Facebook account.

    Also, I pass on online banking pretty much always.  I have made it clear to my banks that any business I have with them will be done in person, and in person only.  If someone that says they are from my bank calls me, I simply tell them I'll visit my nearest branch to resolve the issue.  That way I KNOW it's them...

    And while I'm not suggesting MySpace is all that different (previous comment that was responded to), and I haven't used it in years (at the time it was for promotional purposes), again I kept my identity exposure there to a minimum (alias, etc.), my point is that there are other social network platforms out there besides Facebook.  Plus I'm surprised that MySpace is still around and that Facebook didn't kill them off completely...

    That's not to say that I don't have financial (CC#) exposure in a few spots, plus here, but again I keep my CC #'s exposure to an absolute minimum.  I've taken to using Vanilla Visas in a few places (anonymous CC#'s).  It's a bit more of a pain, but worst case they drain $200-$300 off of one card, and STILL don't have my real name, bank info, etc...  That rules out PayPal for me, but them's the breaks...

    That's also why I haven't bothered to change that randomly assigned jumble of letters and numbers in my forum account handle here...  And forum accounts are pretty much my only version of 'social media' these days.  I'm 'old school' that way.

    Overly paranoid?  Maybe but it's worked pretty well for me so far.  Nothing is foolproof, but again it's about limiting exposure so as to lower the odds...

    In short, no sense making the bad guy's job any easier.  They can get quite far with a handful of information, so I limit that exposure as much as possible.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729

    I do agree with oso3d. Facebook is an invaluable source of entertainment for those who might otherwise be unconnected. Without it my mom would not know about her older relatives whose children post pictures as they don’t write any longer.  Mom also loves the jokes, animal pics and local news

    It is true. I have met distant cousins via FB because they do genealogy and we have traded so many historical photos of family. The oldest I have been given is a photo made in 1869 of my 9 year old 2nd Great Granny. Very unexpected a picture that old. The clothing, the poverty, the sustentence work, the enviroment are all things you see right away in those pictures. I've learned more from those trader cousins then they have from me. A lot of these are untold histories that wouldn't be documented at all, leaving me instead with dry, tattered re-readings of periodically revamped history books of the historical celebrities du jour. and neglecting the most of the relevant truth. FB is not all political trolling or sensationalist style attempts at bad entertainment. 

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