Whats up with Daz removing Images from Gallery
nickashman68
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I recently have had an image removed from the Gallery and several hours later got an email saying so, with no clear reason why except being "found to be outside the Terms of Service for the site".
I find it ironic that DAZ sell the products, but then ban your artwork when you upload to their Gallery..........
There are many characters for sale, either Vampires or Zombies/Undead, how is my image any different to the promo images on the shop pages ?
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Images that depict blood or certain degrees of violence and torture aren’t permitted. Whether they allow undead zombies and such depends to be up to the mod but usually zombies are ok since they are ambulatory monsters and not people. I would suggest contacting the mod for clarification. As they tend not to like discussions talking about moderation. In the forums.
my guess is that she looks like a murdered girl and it was probably reported as being violent and bloody.
this mod is the one I would contact as she works with the gallery [email protected]
Try something less violent and bloody and more family friendly, like seen in the DAZ store:
https://www.daz3d.com/severed-man
The store in the past allows more leeway in promo art for products than it does in what’s allowed in the gallery.
Evidently.
LMAO!
It's too bad DAZ doesn't have an adult section for those that are not easily offended.
To the OP, setup an account at deviantart, it's where I post most of my images because they violate the TOS.
I think probably the more and more we head toward photo-realism the less and less things that are bloody, violent, or sexual will be tolerated as acceptable for commercial product renders in the store and reflective of Daz products in the gallery. For better or worse.
Pretty much no one could mistake the "Severed Man" product images for something that is real. However with Iray, and some of the advancements made with texturing and shaders, if a product like that was made today and promo images of it rendered with the advancements that have been made, they could probably come very close to realistic looking.
If i had posed the girl standing or walking it would have been allowed, i just dont understand why just because she is laying it makes any difference.
Afterall this is all 3d images, its not like they are real photos of real people.......
nothing about the image really indicates she is a zombie. She just looks dead.
I thought your image was very well done by the way. Quite good in fact.
I had to censor this one for having too much blood in it. This is the Daz version.
https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/94003/
I like your image AnotherUserName. Its got a lot going on. Is there a deviant art version?
Pretty much as has been said here make a Deviant Arts account, as they have the image filter setup for images and hides them from view unless the viewee has an account as well..
Thanks Serene Night!
No, thats the only version thats online. In the uncut version there are some very prominent splashes of blood on the wall above the bodies as opposed to whats there now. Not a huge difference.
I agree with getting a DA account :)
Unfortunately, websites are not democracies and the owners are free to allow/remove whatever they see fit. I've had more than my share of posts deleted, so don't take it too personally ;). It's happened to all of us at some time or other. LOL.
Laurie
Thank you for all the comments, i do have a DeviantArt page, but i also like to post some on the DAZ gallery page and FB pages
https://nickashman68.deviantart.com/
That may be true, but its the whole double standard thing that is really off putting. If they allow their store renders to do it, then the galleries should be able to it, plain and simple. And to be frank, I believe it is FAR worse to have it in the store, because the store is what this site is about. The store is what gets advertised. The store splash page was quite proudly selling severed heads just a couple days ago.
She's laying down, so we don't have the bit running that tells us 'this isn't real'. And some days people are just a lot more sensitive to seeing realistic corpses than others.
I got into trouble over three ladies in lingerie not revealing or sexual just posed and standing behind each other with their arms wrapped around each other friend like got into lot of trouble cause I reuploaded thought there was a glitch didn't relise was removed got threatened with banning didn't understand why maybe one hand was too close to a breast? Had a facebook one of one lady posed in a one piece lingerie leaning on a statue someone reported again nothing sexual or revealing I won tat one facebook saw nothing wrong with it. You get them on Deviant too had one comment saying I should kill myself was actually on this photo of my avatar here one of my sculptures
Apparantly a lot of people should look up the definition of "deviant" before actually going to Deviant Art.
And sadly, you find people randomly linking your image that's safely tucked away on DA to another site where said image would be refused, and someone who shouldn't be on the internet to begin with gets offended, such as a child, or an over-protective parent who lets their child browse unattended.
As Daz is a publicly accessible commercial site, images posted to their owned galleries are subject to public scrutiny, including that of the Moral Majority and other SJWs who feel compelled to force their draconian notions of "decency" upon the rest of the world, so Daz sometimes has to swing a wide brush when declining certain images.
However, I do believe the mods should be legally required to offer a more detailed explanation than "violates ToS", so the artist has at least some idea of how to adjust the image. "Female laying down appearing to be dead promotes violence againt women in the eyes of the simple-minded who frequent the internet", for example.
The forum exists as a courtesy; there is no way to legally require a host to explain to a guest why the guest has to follow house rules in the host's own house.
I think the tos is pretty clear. And questions should go to the gallery mods. Us rehashing it will not really change the fact they can remove an image for whatever reason they choose. As indicated in TOS.
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Well when the censors abandoned ship to allow mass media businesses to exploit that sort of gore it shouldn't be surprising that amateurs looking for notariety are looking to follow suit.
It's common public decency not to mentally or physically assault people, besides the point that those images are truthfully out of bounds with most public decency laws in most jusridictions in the world, including many in the United States.
There is not anything draconian about treating people in a way that doesn't mentally abuse or physically abuse those people. Some of those mental and physical abuse victims eventually snap and become perpetrators of abuse themselves. It's called mutual respect.
To prevent that, set your DA images as mature. If someone links the image to somewhere else, the viewer has to log into DA to view it.
What? In what jurisdiction in the US is an image of a dead body in an art gallery legally "out of bounds"? Some of them have actual dead bodies.
As this is a discussion meant for the moderation staff rather than something to debate, we have decided to lock the thread. Please send any Gallery Moderation Quiries to [email protected] which is the proper channel for discussing gallery issues.