requests (hopes) for Aiko 8

MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

can they make it the same body shape as Aiko 3?

Aiko 3, Aiko 3 realisric, Aiko 19?

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  • PippenPippen Posts: 265

    yesyesheart

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited February 2018

    As we continue to wait for Aiko 8... here's a fan art collage/render that I put together...

     

    I have four of the Aikos in my Daz library, but not the original or Aiko 5 as of yet.

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  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited February 2018

    I decided to take a stab at recreating Aiko 3 as a Genesis 8 character using the Genesis 8 Female head and body morphs, G8F Zoe's morphs, and picked an appropriate skin which I made some color tweaks to.  I'm still playing around with some additonal minor tweaks, but not too shabby...

     

    Aiko3 and A G8F Aiko custom morph

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  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited February 2018

    Aiko 3 Reimagined as a G8F character.

    Here's a render of the updated version of my reimagined Aiko 3.

    As for my version of the hair I used for my A3_G8F, I borrowed a suitable texture map from one of the SWAM products for the old A3 ponytail.  I'd love to see someone update this hairstyle with some decent rigging, but alas that may not be something that can happen.  Hopefully one of the product artists considers doing an update to this particular hairstyle, as it is rather flattering...

    Autofitting the hair to G3F (then to G8F) removed the bones for the ponytail, so I had to position the hair and parent it to the scalp by hand instead.

    Anyways, I'm still looking forward to the new 'official' Aiko 8, and I'm looking into packaging this one as a character preset if there is interest, perhaps as a compliment to the 'classic' Vic4 and Mike4 that are already available for later generations as separate products.  Among other things, this makes using the newer outfits a snap, without having to mess with converting the older character models using various means...

    Right now I'm using textures from another G8F character and morphs from Zoe, so this would depend on two different characters, plus the G8F head and body morphs of course if I were able to release it.  I'm researching other skin textures now, but most of the ones released to date are too 'dark' as compared to Aiko 3's skin tone.  I've never done a 'commercial' product before, so I'm researching that at the moment as well...

    I am very curious as to how the 'official' Aiko 8 will look if/when she is finally released... Sure the various generations of Aiko are different from each other,  but I think that they complement each other very nicely.

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  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,816

    I doubt it. Daz made beyong obvious that Aiko is no longer the iconic "3D Anime Girl" and is now the official resident "Game Heroine".

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    Aiko 3 Reimagined as a G8F character.

    Here's a render of the updated version of my reimagined Aiko 3.

    As for my version of the hair I used for my A3_G8F, I borrowed a suitable texture map from one of the SWAM products for the old A3 ponytail.  I'd love to see someone update this hairstyle with some decent rigging, but alas that may not be something that can happen.  Hopefully one of the product artists considers doing an update to this particular hairstyle, as it is rather flattering...

    Autofitting the hair to G3F (then to G8F) removed the bones for the ponytail, so I had to position the hair and parent it to the scalp by hand instead.

    Anyways, I'm still looking forward to the new 'official' Aiko 8, and I'm looking into packaging this one as a character preset if there is interest, perhaps as a compliment to the 'classic' Vic4 and Mike4 that are already available for later generations as separate products.  Among other things, this makes using the newer outfits a snap, without having to mess with converting the older character models using various means...

    Right now I'm using textures from another G8F character and morphs from Zoe, so this would depend on two different characters, plus the G8F head and body morphs of course if I were able to release it.  I'm researching other skin textures now, but most of the ones released to date are too 'dark' as compared to Aiko 3's skin tone.  I've never done a 'commercial' product before, so I'm researching that at the moment as well...

    I am very curious as to how the 'official' Aiko 8 will look if/when she is finally released... Sure the various generations of Aiko are different from each other,  but I think that they complement each other very nicely.

     

    lookin pretty good actually!

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    Mistara said:

    Aiko 3 Reimagined as a G8F character.

    Here's a render of the updated version of my reimagined Aiko 3.

    As for my version of the hair I used for my A3_G8F, I borrowed a suitable texture map from one of the SWAM products for the old A3 ponytail.  I'd love to see someone update this hairstyle with some decent rigging, but alas that may not be something that can happen.  Hopefully one of the product artists considers doing an update to this particular hairstyle, as it is rather flattering...

    Autofitting the hair to G3F (then to G8F) removed the bones for the ponytail, so I had to position the hair and parent it to the scalp by hand instead.

    Anyways, I'm still looking forward to the new 'official' Aiko 8, and I'm looking into packaging this one as a character preset if there is interest, perhaps as a compliment to the 'classic' Vic4 and Mike4 that are already available for later generations as separate products.  Among other things, this makes using the newer outfits a snap, without having to mess with converting the older character models using various means...

    Right now I'm using textures from another G8F character and morphs from Zoe, so this would depend on two different characters, plus the G8F head and body morphs of course if I were able to release it.  I'm researching other skin textures now, but most of the ones released to date are too 'dark' as compared to Aiko 3's skin tone.  I've never done a 'commercial' product before, so I'm researching that at the moment as well...

    I am very curious as to how the 'official' Aiko 8 will look if/when she is finally released... Sure the various generations of Aiko are different from each other,  but I think that they complement each other very nicely.

     

    lookin pretty good actually!

    Thanks!

    I decided to give (most of) the Sacred Luna outfit a shot using the Autofit/Wear Them All feature...

    The Sacred Luna shorts always look weird to me, so I went with another option...

    As per usual, the hat required some post work to deal with the hair poking through.  I like how the expression invokes 'anime'...

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  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    edited February 2018

    Is this our first render of Aiko 8 coming from today's new release Bblythe Hair? It lists Aiko 8 in its fit options. Looks like Aiko 8 is the next DO release.

     

    (Please limit the width of images to 800 px.)

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  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited February 2018

    Is this our first render of Aiko 8 coming from today's new release Bblythe Hair? It lists Aiko 8 in its fit options. Looks like Aiko 8 is the next DO release.

    Very nice!

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  • EJWorksEJWorks Posts: 483
    edited February 2018

    I have mixed feelings about the above being Aiko 8. She looks good as a character and I'm excited for her release, but characters like Dao https://www.daz3d.com/dao-for-genesis-8-female and Akame https://www.daz3d.com/akame-for-genesis-8-female have a much stronger anime look that I WANT from Aiko. I don't want Sakura and her add ons with the weird eyes that have to morphed seperetly from the body to be the primary anime girl for G8F. 

    @Mistara I like the recapturing of Aiko in G8F that you've managed so far. Are you going to make it available as a character add-on, or is this for your own use?

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  • TynkereTynkere Posts: 834

    Is this our first render of Aiko 8 coming from today's new release Bblythe Hair? It lists Aiko 8 in its fit options. Looks like Aiko 8 is the next DO release.

     

    A member had asked about the hair and more 'realistic' character featured in promos.

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/233306/who-is-she#latest

    Was going to guess Vicky 7 but still too new & so many characters out there.  Maybe more experienced users can help him out.

    Anyway, I'd noticed the same thing in "Supported Shapes" & thought Aiko 8 was probably a typo!   

    Meanwhile still waiting to see how they do for Mei Lin and Lee

    My imagination, or (maybe for technical reasons) G8 faces just don't seem as 'unique' if that's the right word.   Monique 6,7 -vs- 8 or Darius 6, 7 -vs- 8

    Subjective I guess.  : ) 

    Thanks for reading

    --Bruce

     

     

     

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    edited February 2018

    If that is indeed Aiko 8, it wouldn't surprise me at all given the direction they have taken her. That direction being a "castaway from recent Final Fantasy games". Considering that Final Fantasy's main character has been used to model real life clothing and handbags, I guess I can see where that comes from. They are very popular, even when the games aren't that good.

    https://www.theverge.com/2015/12/29/10682670/final-fantasy-lightning-louis-vuitton-model

    The old "Anime Aiko" is dead, and has been replaced by Sakura. Sakura has proven popular, so maybe more anime themed stuff is coming. I'd like to see more anime products, too.

    But at least this girl looks much improved over what Aiko 7 was. I might actually buy her if this is her. There is no way that is a typo, it shows up three times in the product listing.

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  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited February 2018
    EJWorks said:

    I have mixed feelings about the above being Aiko 8. She looks good as a character and I'm excited for her release, but characters like Dao https://www.daz3d.com/dao-for-genesis-8-female and Akame https://www.daz3d.com/akame-for-genesis-8-female have a much stronger anime look that I WANT from Aiko. I don't want Sakura and her add ons with the weird eyes that have to morphed seperetly from the body to be the primary anime girl for G8F. 

    @Mistara I like the recapturing of Aiko in G8F that you've managed so far. Are you going to make it available as a character add-on, or is this for your own use?

    I think you mean me (and thanks so much for the compliment!).  My plan is to package her for distribution, hopefully through the Daz store as one of the 'classic reimagined characters' similar to what has happened in the past with previous generations.  Product submissions don't always get accepted, and I've never submitted a product before.

    There are some current examples of 'classic reimagined 'gen 4/5/6' characters already in the Daz store from Sloshwerks, such as these two...

    I'm having pretty good luck using the autofit feature for transferring some of the older outfits to my G8 version (using the Wear Them All feature on a (separate) Genesis 3 figure for the Gen 3/4 outfits, then transferring the outfit to from the Genesis 3 figure to Genesis 8 (autofit as Genesis 3 when you transfer from the G3F figure to the G8F figure, much thanks to Llynara for pointing out this trick).

    I've liked the AERON outfit ever since I first saw it, so I just had to take it for another spin... I used Aiko's own boots though, not a fan of the heels...This is an early WIP (lighting not there yet).

    I suck at lighting, so I'm still playing around with the lighting on this one...

    I'm not happy with two areas of my A3-G8F model (armpits and lower thighs), so I'm still playing with minor adjustments (I'm hoping to aviod the d-former route if possible to keep things 'clean'). 

    I like how the face has turned out a lot, though, so the face is probably not going to change much at all from what I've already shown.  The nose is slightly bigger, but I think it works well at that size, keeping in mind that dialingl down the nose size further to taste is still an option, since you'll need to have the G8F face morphs package to use this.

    I may take one more stab at pruning out the other character's morphs/try to get there with just the G8F head and body morphs, I'm not optimistic though.  The head area is a bit of a challenge...I'm thinking that at best this would be a 'niche' product anyways, so having it dependent on another character or two might not be all that bad...

    So, best case scenario, it'd be a few weeks after I submit it if it is accepted.  Worst case, it is rejected and I look at other options..

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  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679

    Well I would love to have this Aiko 3 homage in my runtime, as Aiko 3 is pretty much the quintessential anime figure for Daz. I really don't get why they never had an update of her like those Legacy Shapes. It seems like a no brainer to me, and people have asked for it. 

    Would this just be the shape or would there be a texture? If you can do a texture, then I think your odds get better. If it is a shape, Daz might want additional shapes to go with her, similar to those Legacy Shape packs which all had 3-5 characters in them.

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited February 2018

    Well I would love to have this Aiko 3 homage in my runtime, as Aiko 3 is pretty much the quintessential anime figure for Daz. I really don't get why they never had an update of her like those Legacy Shapes. It seems like a no brainer to me, and people have asked for it. 

    Would this just be the shape or would there be a texture? If you can do a texture, then I think your odds get better. If it is a shape, Daz might want additional shapes to go with her, similar to those Legacy Shape packs which all had 3-5 characters in them.

    Right now I'm just dialing in the shapes.  The texture I'm currently using is from a completely different figure, although I was about to experiment with the textures from her parent shape tree.  I also thought about modifying the base G8F texture, but I'm not that far along yet.  At the moment, I'm working on a second version that is only one step away from Genesis 8 base (the version above is '2 deep' from G8F base).  I'd love to 'borrow' the textures from a completely different G8F character (I like how the eyes and skin looks) but that isn't 'allowed', so I'm better off suggesting the skin textures from the other character as an option.  IMHO you should own this other character anyways 'cuz she's cute...

    Once I figure out why my Aiko 3 expressions aren't working... I'll post a new render with the three figures side by side..  The A3 figure I was using before had foot issues due to a 'foot fix' morph I clicked on, and I''m not quite sure where I found the expressions the first time....

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  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited February 2018

    Just a quick update on my current progress on the Aiko 3 -> 8 front.

    OK, so currently I have FOUR versions of my work in progress A3.8.  I'm thinking that enumerating her as a 3.8 is a good way to distinguish her from the upcoming Aiko 8 release.

    I've spent the last few hours trying to dial in Aiko 3 as a Sakura 8.  I'm not entirely happy with the results, but here's how she looks at the moment...

    Classic Aiko 3 left, Sakura 8 WIP version right.

    Sakura 8's head is shaped a bit more like a guitar pick than an egg, and the G8F and Sakura 8 head morphs don't seem to have a good way to offset this.  The gal at the right is is NOT a 100% Sakura head morph (dialed in just far enough so that the eyes aren't too big), and I've used some scaling corrections to get her this far.  I don't mind having her being a bit different, but of course  my goal is a 'sptting image' of Aiko 3.

    Note the 'crease/fold' along the forehead, and the indents next to the eyes... I might be able to use D-Formers to correct these, but of course my goal was to stay away from D-Formers if I'm able.  Also, Sakura's 'default' eye shape is quite a bit different from Aiko 3's, which makes it difficult to replicate the lower eyelid curve...    I'd be interested in feedback on this version...

    Here's another version I've also been working on, utilizing a different character than in previous posts (I've already used her skin texture in the first version I posted)...

    Again, Classic Aiko 3 is to the left.

    Still tweaking this one a bit as well, but I don't mind having minor differences between the various versions I'm working on (adds character). 

    I really like the look of the associated skin texture shown above (from the associated 'base' character), and that base character has some fun optioons (I really like the eyes).  A3.8 Zoe (below) also uses this same skin texture.

    Here's how other two versions I'm working on look currently -

    The A3.8 - Karyssa skin textures are a 'lightened' version of Karyssa 8's base textures (colors adjusted in photoshop).

    Note that the translucency for all of these characters in these pics is set REALLY low, due to Aiko 3's very light skin, with some additional color tweaks...

    I'm probably going to take one more stab at a 'vanilla G8F' version as well.  As you can see from the A3.8 - Karyssa image above, I'm working on custom skin textures at the moment, to try to recreate Aiko 3's skin texture while still looking more 'modern', and there may be another set depending on how the G8F base version goes...

    So, there may be FIVE versions to choose from, depending on what I manage to work out with the Sakura and Vanilla G8F versions.  There will be minor differences between each version, due to the difference in 'base character shapes', which I don't think of as a bad thing.  This would also allow people more 'options' based on which base character they may already own.

    Well that's it for now.  Slowly plugging away...

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    The Aikos i luv so much heart

     

    Aiko 19

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