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dForce Trees and Leaves - Brilliant!

IndigoTeaIndigoTea Posts: 74
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What a wonderful idea for implementing dForce! Now let's see if we can get a cherry blossom variant... :D

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-trees-and-leaves

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,391
    edited January 2018

    two thumbs up!!!  yesyes

    Very creative use for dforce.  Hope it is a sign of other outside-of-the-box ideas to come.

    Thanks for pointing it out.  Might have missed it by not looking closely enough.  I did make a cherry blossom tree for Carrara but I used the formula modeler for the blossoms.  Not sure how well they would convert to vertex models and then to obj format and then export to Studio, but may do a couple of tests. 

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  • Melissa ConwayMelissa Conway Posts: 590

    LOVE this! The leaves look to be maple? I'd like to put in a request for oak leaves if there are any add-ons planned - but in the meantime, I'll kitbash it myself. Thanks EcoManiac3D!

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,087

    Are the leaves transmap or actually modeled?

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,753

    I imagine the leaves are transmapped based on the unnatural machinations they went through I saw in the video where they where animated. I buying for renders and animations, but probably not the inactive license at $50!

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,087

    That’s a good thing because it makes it feasible to just swap out maps for other leaves

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,844
    Oso3D said:

    Are the leaves transmap or actually modeled?

    Looking at the clay promos, they are transmapped

    My biggest concern is perforrnace as the trees look very detailed both in mesh and the amount and size of the textures.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,753
    Oso3D said:

    That’s a good thing because it makes it feasible to just swap out maps for other leaves

    Yes, that is good.

  • Melissa ConwayMelissa Conway Posts: 590

    I purchased the product. The leaves are transmap, with multiple shapes and colors. 

    Oso3D said:

    Are the leaves transmap or actually modeled?

     

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    Gorgeous and creative too... now if I could just get a dforcable dirty kitchen...... wink

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    If they are simple transmapped planes its very easy to get free replacement leaf images on the web. Thats what I do with Blender.
  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191

    I saw this and watched the video. I definitely want to play with this. It and the video look amazing.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    edited January 2018

    Yes, this is a great idea. I can see this being done with shredded paper, hay (spread out on a medieval floor) - in addition to the blossoms already suggested...lots of things

    Laurie

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  • Aave NainenAave Nainen Posts: 1,108

    I love watching the video for this product! Frames 0 to 18 would be worthy of looping, mesmerizing, like watching a fishtank or fireplace.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    Knittingmommy said:

    I saw this and watched the video. I definitely want to play with this. It and the video look amazing.

    +1 Straight into the wishlist it went, shortly after Daz Midnight.

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679

    With transmapping this thing could be used for all sorts of things, like debris and paper rolling through a street or stadium.

    But yeah, I am also concerned about how resource intensive this may be. Do you need a beast machine to run it? What kind of machine does the PA use in their video, and how much has that video been sped up?

    Can you adjust the total amount of leaves?

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,261

    I wonder if dForce could be applied to existing trees that I own. I think I'll try and see what happens. I doubt that it would be as full featured as this product, though.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,163
    barbult said:

    I wonder if dForce could be applied to existing trees that I own. I think I'll try and see what happens. I doubt that it would be as full featured as this product, though.

    https://www.facebook.com/wendy5/videos/10214171109265713/

     

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    edited January 2018
    barbult said:

    I wonder if dForce could be applied to existing trees that I own. I think I'll try and see what happens. I doubt that it would be as full featured as this product, though.

    Possibly, it probably depends on if the leaves are attached to the tree by geometry or not. They might stay on the tree and droop like soggy paper. Or worse, they magically float upwards and the tree explodes. There could be some humor in seeing this happen.

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  • SaiyanessSaiyaness Posts: 715

    It's outstanding and I love it to bits and he's amazing and if he does an add-on with a whole bunch of different leaves and blossoms and what-not, I will overuse it SO hard! :p 

    The video was amazing!

    I haven't even bought it yet! I slam-dunked it into my cart mentally when I saw it but I keep forgetting to buy it. Off I go!! @__@
     

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,261
    edited January 2018

    Hey, this worked much better than I expected. I used Stonemason's Japanese Maples and the rugged terrain from Stonemason's Through the Woods. 

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,753

    cool

  • The DiigitalsThe Diigitals Posts: 380
    barbult said:

    Hey, this worked much better than I expected. I used Stonemason's Japanese Maples and the rugged terrain from Stonemason's Through the Woods. 

     

    th3Digit said:
    barbult said:

    I wonder if dForce could be applied to existing trees that I own. I think I'll try and see what happens. I doubt that it would be as full featured as this product, though.

    https://www.facebook.com/wendy5/videos/10214171109265713/

     

    Very Interesting!

  • MusicplayerMusicplayer Posts: 515

    This is amazing, but for me the one important question raised above still has yet to be answered....do we need to own a 'beast' of a machine (either with a high end cpu or graphics card) for this to work as shown in the promo video? I would hate to purchase this and then find it has a minimal spec requirement, so would be interested to hear from anyone with a low spec machine that has bought this.

    Kind regards.

    smiley

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019

    I have a 980Ti, and ran the simulation as a quick test yesterday at highest settings, and it took quite a while with the card working at full force.

    But I haven't tested on lower settings yet, and CPU.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,230
    BeeMKay said:

    I have a 980Ti, and ran the simulation as a quick test yesterday at highest settings, and it took quite a while with the card working at full force.

    But I haven't tested on lower settings yet, and CPU.

    I have this in my cart but not yet checked out: I would think that it would be fairly simple to select half of the leaves (marquee select with the Geoemtry Editor tool, then remove the trunk polygons), assign them to a new material, and make that invisible to simulation (or even do it twice, leaving just the front-fight leaves say) to do soem tests of the settings, only applying those settings to the full tree once happy with them. Wouldn't speed the final simulation but should speed testing.

  • MartialMartial Posts: 431
    edited January 2018

    I don't know what i do wrong but , using different dynamic tree props, from Ecomaniac product,  i just got an error message : error during preparing objetsééé(see capture screen)

    If someone can just write the how to do it simple step by step  i will appreciate really 

    I have used dforce before with cloths with success but with thees trees i cannot do it

    Thanks

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,230

    Which version of DS (Help>About Daz Studio)? Are you using CPU or GPU for the OpenCL (see the Advanced tab of Simulation Settings)?

  • MartialMartial Posts: 431

    Thank for reply

    i use the 4,10 version of DAZStudio with OpenCl device NVidia Cuda  GeForce GTX 660, Windows 10 pro 64 bits, 32 gigs ram

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    edited January 2018
    What are you simulating with? Do you have the CPU or GPU or both? If you are doing it with GPU, the 660 may be running out of memory, or lack up to date drivers. Make sure your GPU drivers are up to date.
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  • AlmightyQUESTAlmightyQUEST Posts: 2,006

    As the simulation at a decent quality is slow for me (not this product specifically, just in general this has been the case), has anyone tried (and had success) with adding a wind node? The leaves seem to explode a bit on me, which I think is just a matter of adjusting some settings, but since each test takes a while was wondering if folks had tips.

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