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OT: Amazon may be planning a YouTube rival

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  • Rashad CarterRashad Carter Posts: 1,830

    The obvious answer is to only upload Daz animations related to cats riding on vacuums. Everyone makes money, except the cats of course.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,830

    So that means your videos will get deleted if they don't reach a certain level of viewership? And until you reach that level of viewship they won't consider you for any revenue sharing programs from ad revenue?

    So if you can still upload your videos so it's not that bad. You don't have to spend more time adjusting your income for taxes purposes unless you earn something substantial which you won't do on YouTube without oodles andf oodles of viewers.

  • jag11jag11 Posts: 885
    Ivy said:

    Hi folks I have some very sad news I got from google today.

    I won't post the personal email & announcement notice I got from Google today.  But Google does have a public posting if anyone is interested in reading the new guidelines on the google creators blog for YouTube partners.  It appears with the notice I got this morning that google has moved the goal post for us small time YouTube creators to remain a google partner. .  As a google partner you now have to have over 250,000 watch time minutes or equal to 4000 watched time hours in 10 months Plus a 1000 new subscribers a year in order for us to keep our partnership programs or to maintain our google tools to sell & track our videos ..To me this is very very sad news for small potato operations like me.  Because there no way I can compete with dumb cats riding vacume cleaners, and people sticking pencils up their noses with my silly daz animations. So I was informed that Google is cutting my Daz animations from the Yotube partnership programs because they defined my animations A "bad actor" in the YouTube partnership programs taking( or stealing) revenue from bigger content creators, which whom are complaining about small creators like me taking their viewers and ad revenue.  So with the limited ad resources youtube now has it had to make some new policy changes. As it stated in the new policy changes over view that google posted .. 

    So because of this new unrealistic policy goal change.  there appears to be a large out cry over this because  millions of small creators like me who will be loosing our google partnership  in February. Not much good it will do. Because it is googles ball and game,  so they get to make the rules . But this is very sad for me because I  have enjoyed using google for the last 12 years to show my hard work using daz studio & poser. and this new policy really just sucks the life out of wanting to create animations for YouTube anymore .because I will be limited on how long my animations can be & my protections from content thieves will be gone. so anyone can claim rights to my animations.

    I'm not going to bash YouTube.  YouTube was a great place to show off what we could do and make a little money for our efforts, so we could continue to buy more content to make more videos.   those days appear to be out of reach for me now and I am very sadden by it. its kind of feels like being fired or downsized.

    So in my search for a new home for my animations this morning, faith seems to smiled on me and I found a site called twitch.TV by Amazon and contacted a Amazon rep through a chart window about it. and believe it or not they called and I exlpained my predicament . They were very helpful & once I am ready they are going to help me set up a twitch/amazon prime sellers account.  twitch is something  Amazon has been very successful for gamers and other game animation video content creators to sell and stream videos on.  Yes there are some minium guidelines and some minor restrictions same as google.  but the goals & quota's at this time are not nearly as impossible to are reach, as the googles bar that has been set.   Plus thankfully Amazon actually have people to help you to navigate the process to attain advertisers, stream and sell  your animations & be successful with Amazon prime & twitch. 

    I do not know if I will be accepted into the program or even if I can make as much as i use to from YouTube.  This is a new road for me to travel & is very new way to me of doing things.  I am in the process of trying to get this set up and work out the details of the guideline policies, and requirements  and I'll keeping my figures crossed it will work out that I can sell my Daz animation here as well as I did on Google.,  I also have to make a few changes to my website to meet amazons API embbeding requirements.

    Why am I am doing all this you ask?     My hope is to be successful enough to continue to enjoy the buying habit & the amount of 3d content that I always have in the past from what I made off my Daz animations revenues on YouTube..  As small amount as my revenue was, it was a big help in buying additional daz 3d content for me so I could continue to make fresh new animations with new content regularly . I have  been creating animation for over 8 years without any help from sponsorships  or any other partners programs other than yotube so been a rough road trying to be successful. now appears if i am to stay with google its will be much harder .it is of little comfort to know I am not alone with this issue.

    So If there are other small time DAZ animators like me & are in the same boat with loosing their google partnership program because of the unrealistic new goals & quotas' Google has set for us to maintain being a YouTube partner.  Then Amazon twitch.TV maybe something to looking to to see if its right  for you.   I am very sadden by this turn of event indeed and that is all I can offer in comfort to those like me loosing their YouTube partnership accounts.

    YT used to be a good source of free good tutorials/knowledge, now, sadly, they are rewarding the worst of the content, car crashes, shootings, alarming news feeds, people droping bottles, people burning sheetos, you can even watch how the pope was hit on the face in Peru and peolple making fun of him, those channels have more than 1M subscribers. I said sadly because that's what most of the people search in YT and YT knows it and wants money from that.

    Either people monetize or not, there are ads in every youtube page.

    I wish you the best of luck in your new home, keep us posted on your progress.

  • jag11jag11 Posts: 885
    nonesuch00 said:

    So that means your videos will get deleted if they don't reach a certain level of viewership? And until you reach that level of viewship they won't consider you for any revenue sharing programs from ad revenue?

    So if you can still upload your videos so it's not that bad. You don't have to spend more time adjusting your income for taxes purposes unless you earn something substantial which you won't do on YouTube without oodles andf oodles of viewers.

    YT won't delete the videos, YT will just make money from the intellectual property of others.

  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513
    Sorry, Ivy. This is garbage news.
  • Daywalker DesignsDaywalker Designs Posts: 3,586
    agent unawares said:
    Sorry, Ivy. This is garbage news.

    Agreed; it's like they're saying, "I'm sorry you aren't very popular but until you show that you're worth the investment, we can't give you any financial backing to get to that point". What about those of us that don't care about having the minimum number of followers they consider mandatory for payment and simply want to make enough to cover our YouTube Red payments?

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,830

    Well good luck.

  • Rashad CarterRashad Carter Posts: 1,830

    So you're saying its no longer wise to skip out on college to become a youtube star? Not that it ever was, but that low bar for entry and ease of economic return for merem popularity gave many people a leg up they will no longer have. More parents can again argue for the value of college education. Over the past few years I'd heard of many young people looking to youtube as their full time career. Scary. Hopefully we'll find some sort of workable middle ground. While I don't want kids skipping out on higher education to become youtube stars, this is stil the United States and  I think it valuable that the young delusionals think this niche will last an entire adult lifetime. Guess it's already begun to burst. Middle ground please please please

  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513
    Daywalker Designs said:
    agent unawares said:
    Sorry, Ivy. This is garbage news.

    Agreed; it's like they're saying, "I'm sorry you aren't very popular but until you show that you're worth the investment, we can't give you any financial backing to get to that point". What about those of us that don't care about having the minimum number of followers they consider mandatory for payment and simply want to make enough to cover our YouTube Red payments?

    This is going to hurt fixit and tutorial channels so hard because they can get all kinds of views without anyone ever subscribing, because poeple watch the videos just to resolve a problem, not in the expectation of watching a bunch of videos about unrelated problems.

  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513
    Rashad Carter said:

    So you're saying its no longer wise to skip out on college to become a youtube star? Not that it ever was, but that low bar for entry and ease of economic return for merem popularity gave many people a leg up they will no longer have. More parents can again argue for the value of college education. Over the past few years I'd heard of many young people looking to youtube as their full time career. Scary. Hopefully we'll find some sort of workable middle ground. While I don't want kids skipping out on higher education to become youtube stars, this is stil the United States and  I think it valuable that the young delusionals think this niche will last an entire adult lifetime. Guess it's already begun to burst. Middle ground please please please

    Being a Youtube star as a career really isn't any different than being any other sort of entertainer. If you can make it work, make it work.

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    agent unawares said:
    Sorry, Ivy. This is garbage news.

    Thanks I guess its part of life.  I didn't make much money I only have about a 1000 subs  but i have almost a million views counts and I made a few hundred a year . I did have 3400 watch hours this year but I'll be cut short of of what I need by the due date . plus I will loose any money that is owned to me for this payment quarter.  which is as of right now $98.07 if i don't make the 4000 hour watch count by the February deadline.   I guess I can say honestly I've been down sized or FIRED  by google..  though really the media tools were the big value to me. it had video tracking. and Analytics, I could upload videos up to 30 minutes long, I branding across the board on all my google accounts .  I had content ID with DMC take down which all came with the partnership program. But now with these new changes POOF GONE for the little guy..    yes it will be the tools I'll miss the most.

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