New iMAC Pro- Is this Daz Studio 5.0?

I was looking to update my Dell POS, as it has been acting up lately.  Looking at Apple, I saw the ad for the new iMAC Pro, coming DAZ soon (December).  As I was looking through the jaw-dropping specs, I see this screenshot.  Although it looks a lot like DAZ Studio (perhaps 5.0), it may be something different.  Anyhow, this looks like part of a Stonemason scene to me.  Based on the specs of the new iMAC Pro, this would be an awesome unit to work with.

-Starkdog 

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  • It says "Unreal Editor" so it's probably part of the tools for the newest version of Unreal Engine.

  • StarkdogStarkdog Posts: 176

    Ah, ok.  The UI looks so close to DAZ Studio, and I swear I've seen this scene in the store.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,844

    Its the unreal game engine editor, most likely a game design on the screen

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,873
    edited August 2017

    ...couldn't be Daz Studio5 as Apple only uses AMD GPUs.

    After looking at how this thing is built I wouldn't buy one if I had the money for it.  Besides not supporting CUDA render engines, it is esentially a vertical notebook encased in the display with all the components tightly crammed together and only two hamster wheel fans for cooling the CPUs and dual Radeon GPUs (which tend to run hotter than their Nvidia counterparts).   Not into cooking a workstation with a five digit price tag to death in a couple years. 

    Never understood Apple's thinking that dumping the classic full tower case was a step "forward".  When form trumps function, function often suffers. 

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  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    kyoto kid said:

    ...couldn't be Daz Studio5 as Apple only uses AMD GPUs.

    After looking at how this thing is built I wouldn't buy one if I had the money for it.  Besides not supporting CUDA render engines, it is esentially a vertical notebook encased in the display with all the components tightly crammed together and only two hamster wheel fans for cooling the CPUs and dual Radeon GPUs (which tend to run hotter than their Nvidia counterparts).   Not into cooking a workstation with a five digit price tag to death in a couple years. 

    Never understood Apple's thinking that dumping the classic full tower case was a step "forward".  When form trumps function, function often suffers. 

    I agree. And odds are it you cannot upgrade it a few years down the road like a much cheaper and proper desktop workstation. Plus they announced they would have options for AMD Vega 56 and 64...which are flamethrowers disguised as GPUs. Vega 64 can easily run past 400 WATTS and spike well over 85°C at peak loads....is that what you want in a workstation environment?

    Perhaps the fact that you cannot use those flamethrowers with Iray may be a good thing. Otherwise you'd fry that $5,000+ beast in no time. I hope their warranty is amazing because you will almost certainly be needing it at those temps.

    Sadly Apple got their hardware vendors backwards. AMD Ryzen is fantastic, and Threadripper blows Xeon away at most tasks suited for Daz Studio. Intel hastily cobbled the new i9 series together in a mad rush to compete and it clearly shows. But AMD Vega is a -literal- bomb. Vega might only be good for mining and providing the extra utility of using your PC as a George Foreman Grill. So Apple is using 2nd tier hardware for both CPU and GPU, and charging you $5,000 for the BASE price. I bet the Vega 64 version is $6,000.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,744

    I had a ASUS EP121 tablet that was engineered basically the same way as that make and the dual fans failed overheating the battery, causing it too explode and crack and melt parts of the gorilla-glass display.

    The reason the DAZ UI & UE UI look alike I suppose it they both use the QT UI & Toolset.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,873
    kyoto kid said:

    ...couldn't be Daz Studio5 as Apple only uses AMD GPUs.

    After looking at how this thing is built I wouldn't buy one if I had the money for it.  Besides not supporting CUDA render engines, it is esentially a vertical notebook encased in the display with all the components tightly crammed together and only two hamster wheel fans for cooling the CPUs and dual Radeon GPUs (which tend to run hotter than their Nvidia counterparts).   Not into cooking a workstation with a five digit price tag to death in a couple years. 

    Never understood Apple's thinking that dumping the classic full tower case was a step "forward".  When form trumps function, function often suffers. 

    I agree. And odds are it you cannot upgrade it a few years down the road like a much cheaper and proper desktop workstation. Plus they announced they would have options for AMD Vega 56 and 64...which are flamethrowers disguised as GPUs. Vega 64 can easily run past 400 WATTS and spike well over 85°C at peak loads....is that what you want in a workstation environment?

    Perhaps the fact that you cannot use those flamethrowers with Iray may be a good thing. Otherwise you'd fry that $5,000+ beast in no time. I hope their warranty is amazing because you will almost certainly be needing it at those temps.

    Sadly Apple got their hardware vendors backwards. AMD Ryzen is fantastic, and Threadripper blows Xeon away at most tasks suited for Daz Studio. Intel hastily cobbled the new i9 series together in a mad rush to compete and it clearly shows. But AMD Vega is a -literal- bomb. Vega might only be good for mining and providing the extra utility of using your PC as a George Foreman Grill. So Apple is using 2nd tier hardware for both CPU and GPU, and charging you $5,000 for the BASE price. I bet the Vega 64 version is $6,000.

    ...and fully tricked out it will cost something like 12,000$ to 15,000$. That's one expensive firework.
  • DkalDkal Posts: 18

    Geez! I hope the new iMac Pros don’t burn themselves out after a few years of use. From what I understand, Apple designed some kind of innovative dual cooling system in the iMac Pro and added cooling vents that the previous iMacs didn’t have. The only hands-on user report I’ve heard so far said that the iMac Pro is amazingly quiet when rendering video, and that although it gets a little warm to the touch behind the monitor, it gets no warmer than most other computers. Time will tell. Eventually we’ll find out if Apple’s new thermal cooling system can do the job or not.

    The lack of CUDA-based iRay rendering is another matter though. I wonder if the iMac Pro’s CPU is fast enough to make me not care about the lack of NVIDIA iRay rendering. I’ve been waiting many years to replace an ancient 2008 Mac cheese grater, but it would great to be able to do fast iRay rendering on my next computer. Apple said it’s designing a new “modular” computing system to replace the old Mac Pro line. I can only hope for NVIDIA card compatibility. NVIDIA has been rumored to be secretly working with Apple on something.

  • GatorGator Posts: 1,319

    It would be a really poor choice for Iray rendering. 

    After using some different ones I'm pretty OS agnostic.  Each has their pros and cons.  But AMD graphics only means they aren't even in the race for me.

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990
    Dkal said:

    Geez! I hope the new iMac Pros don’t burn themselves out after a few years of use. From what I understand, Apple designed some kind of innovative dual cooling system in the iMac Pro and added cooling vents that the previous iMacs didn’t have. The only hands-on user report I’ve heard so far said that the iMac Pro is amazingly quiet when rendering video, and that although it gets a little warm to the touch behind the monitor, it gets no warmer than most other computers. Time will tell. Eventually we’ll find out if Apple’s new thermal cooling system can do the job or not.

    The lack of CUDA-based iRay rendering is another matter though. I wonder if the iMac Pro’s CPU is fast enough to make me not care about the lack of NVIDIA iRay rendering. I’ve been waiting many years to replace an ancient 2008 Mac cheese grater, but it would great to be able to do fast iRay rendering on my next computer. Apple said it’s designing a new “modular” computing system to replace the old Mac Pro line. I can only hope for NVIDIA card compatibility. NVIDIA has been rumored to be secretly working with Apple on something.

    Forget it. There is no CPU that comes close to A GPU when the renderer was coded for GPU rendering.

  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 2,136

    My 27" 2004 iMac has an Intel CPU &a 1GB nVidia Graphics chip. Well, honestly it doesn't do a lot for iRay.

     

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  • InkuboInkubo Posts: 745

    No, the iMac Pro isn't upgradeable, by design. For people who like cases with replaceable parts inside, they plan to release a new Mac Pro this year.

    I'm a total OS X (now macOS) fanatic, but I had to switch to Windows 10 because nothing in Apple's current lineup works for me because of the lack of CUDA support, which means no GPU for DAZ Studio. Hopefully the Mac Pro will change that and actually have an affordable entry point.

     

  • OstadanOstadan Posts: 1,130

    There's always external GPU, I suppose.  But definitely too expensive a box to seriously consider for home use.

  • GatorGator Posts: 1,319
    edited December 2017
    Inkubo said:

    No, the iMac Pro isn't upgradeable, by design. For people who like cases with replaceable parts inside, they plan to release a new Mac Pro this year.

    I'm a total OS X (now macOS) fanatic, but I had to switch to Windows 10 because nothing in Apple's current lineup works for me because of the lack of CUDA support, which means no GPU for DAZ Studio. Hopefully the Mac Pro will change that and actually have an affordable entry point.

     

    Just putz around in another OS like Linux... you start to realize for web browsing, email, and office apps it doesn't really matter what OS it is.  Then just get whatever OS suits your needs the best.

    For example, I messed around with Linux and BeOS... only to reboot back and forth, back and forth for gaming, certain productivity apps.  After a while, I asked myself "why am I maintaining multiple OSes and rebooting all the time to do this?"  Killed the fanboy in me.

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