How do you sit someone ?
Orpheus13
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I just got the Bar Interior scene, and tried to get a girl onto a stool. I used a "sitting pose", I can adapt it even if it's made for a chair. Okay, not that hard, but the dress is the real problem, it doesn't "sit", just leaks through. How do you make the character sit nicely on a flat surface ?
On the sideline, putting a glass in her hand isn't easier, even with parenting. Help would be appreciated...
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Do you have a picture? Most clothing will conform somewhat to the pose.
If you have Daz Beta release, you can use dForce to make the chair and figure collision objects, thus preventing the leak thru. With current relesae, you can use morphs on the dress (parameters tab - may not have many) or d-former. Last but not least, you can hide parts of the dress that leak thru with geometry editor.
As for glass in hand, parenting is a good start. But then you have to manually move the glass to be located in the hand. You can also select the hand and use the 'grasp' morph in parameters to move the fingers around the glass. You can also move the fingers individually. Once you have it set up, the fact that it's parented will mean that any further movements of the arm/hand/figure will keep the same positioning in respect to the glass, so that's nice.
I read that as sit on someone.
haha
The easy way is to use a dress that comes with a sit morph. Not all of them do. My favorites are anything by Aave Nainen. I think every single one of her dress come with sit morphs. A few other vendors have been following her trend and having a lot of posing morphs built into their clothes in recent months. I know I've picked some clothing this past year that have had morphs available for some of the pose packs and most of those have sit morphs which I have really loved as it means less work for me.
Another way to get your dress to 'sit' better is to take the posed dress with your figure and the bar stool into a third party modeling program like Hexagon or Blender.
If you want to stay inside DS, you might give dForms a try. Your miles may vary but some clothing is really easy to morph using the dForms.
Thank you, I intend to get deeply into Blender so maybe I'll wait for that before finishing that scene
Also, the dress I used there was an old thing from G3 without modeling options, so there's that.
Any help on how to put a glass (or other object non made to go directly there) in a hand ?
What was the dress?
i put things in a hand by moving them to the hand and bending the fingers. No real shortcuts.
I start with the drinking poses set. They're PC+ too.
https://www.daz3d.com/have-a-drink-on-me-poses
I get hit and miss results using the active pose tool and grabbing the dress and pulling on it.
Teehee I did too.
Orpheus, I understand your frustrations with posing a dress in a sitting pose. I only have a few dresses that include them but even so some weird things can happen. I use D-formers a lot and this has helped almost all the time. I also work on camera angles and such so I don't have to see the entire figure and her badly bent dress at the knees. But like I said, I use D-formers a lot and actually enjoy doing it. It usually takes care of most issues I have with sitting morphs in dresses.
The dress is https://www.daz3d.com/little-secret-ii-for-genesis-3-female-s
Yeah, that isn't as easy as it sounds. ^^
I know absolutely nothing about D-formers yet, and by that I mean not even where they are and how to use them.
It's only for beer glasses though, right ?
Huh. That one has a ton of morphs listed. I’ve found that sometimes you have to look under ‘actor’ in Parameters ‘cause they don’t show up in any other tab. Although that one is short and tight enough I’d expect Autofollow to handle it. I _almost_ picked it up the other day too.
I do actually shortcut moving the glass to the hand by using a Jump script from mcasual. But for getting the perfect fit I start with a grasp pose for the hand, then adjust joint by joint. By using Bend, Side to Side and Twist.
Yes. I curved the lower fingers for Martini and used Pose Grasp to close the fingers for shot glasses.
Yes, I didn't find the morphs at all, and now I see them easily, weird...
Autofollow works but it's not enough in a sitting pose where part of the dress is on the stool but not the legs, if you get my meaning.
I'm all game for the script.
Ok, putting it in the hand (I mean in the 3 dimensions) is the biggest challenge for me...
How so? pretty basic for me. Pose the hand, then move the glass into positon and then fine tune the hand. i find that once you get the Y axis right, then go to the top down camera and position the X and Z axis.
It also helps to parent the glass to the hand by dragging onto the appropriate hand bone in the scene tab, once you get it positioned, so that if you move the figure the glass go with them.