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  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,353

    I like the nod to both Next Generation and the original series.  The music queues the same as the original, and the beginning is just like Next Gen.  Kewel.

  • JamesJABJamesJAB Posts: 1,766

    I am loving the series.  To me, it reads like Star Trek The Next Generation... but with a bit of a potty mouth.
    The solution for the issue in the second eppisode was just brilliant!
    Hopefully the series gets into a good stride and survives the Thursday night time slot that FOX tossed it into.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,092

    The sets and effects are quite good.  But somehow the humor is an ill fit.

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,039

    I dig it, It is not a perfect show but no show is. It is better production levels of many other sci-fi shows AND good writing. The jokes are funny and not over-whelming. Overall a great show! :)

  • jaebeajaebea Posts: 456

    I am thoroughly enjoying it!

  • shadowhawk1shadowhawk1 Posts: 2,206

    I have seen all three episodes so far and I have to say that the Orville reminds me a great deal of TOS 

  • MardookMardook Posts: 292

    I'm enjoying it so far... it is far more positive and enjoyable than what passes for real Star Trek these days.

  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885

    My daughter (who has only seen a scattering of Star Trek, because there's just too much of it and she's even less into Sci Fi than I am) jokingly insists that The Orville is another Star Trek show.

    1) there are aliens as part of the crew
    2) the uniforms are color coded by division (and security's still red)
    3) they deal with social problems
    4) they're exploring the universe on a space ship.

    I can't say she's wrong. :)

     

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,065
    DaWaterRat said:

    My daughter (who has only seen a scattering of Star Trek, because there's just too much of it and she's even less into Sci Fi than I am) jokingly insists that The Orville is another Star Trek show.

    1) there are aliens as part of the crew
    2) the uniforms are color coded by division (and security's still red)
    3) they deal with social problems
    4) they're exploring the universe on a space ship.

    I can't say she's wrong. :)

     

    Change 4 to "on the moon" ignore the colour for security and you'd have Space:1999

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    I'm still kind of surprised nobody's reprised Space:1999.

     

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 6,070
    Richard Haseltine said:
    DaWaterRat said:

    My daughter (who has only seen a scattering of Star Trek, because there's just too much of it and she's even less into Sci Fi than I am) jokingly insists that The Orville is another Star Trek show.

    1) there are aliens as part of the crew
    2) the uniforms are color coded by division (and security's still red)
    3) they deal with social problems
    4) they're exploring the universe on a space ship.

    I can't say she's wrong. :)

     

    Change 4 to "on the moon" ignore the colour for security and you'd have Space:1999

    Episode 4 was definitley a homage (or borrowed story idea) from an old show called "Starlost"..  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069638/ ;

    Guess I am showing my age, if I remember that one LOL

    Rawn

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,409
    timmins.william said:

    I'm still kind of surprised nobody's reprised Space:1999.

     

    They ran out of eagles. smiley

  • RadioactiveLilyRadioactiveLily Posts: 359

    We watched a couple of episodes last night to try and catch up, and we quite enjoyed it. I like that it's a little quirky but still not afraid to tackle pretty heavy subject matter (such as episode 3).  They've started something good, IMO, and I hope it is given the time to really find its stride.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,092
    timmins.william said:

    I'm still kind of surprised nobody's reprised Space:1999.

     

    Hindsight is 100%.  And besides, from what I can remember about 1999 (the year) it wasn't at all that spectacular. cheeky

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    Well, I'm not sure it would be GOOD. Just that it has enough nostalgia value I'm surprised nobody's tried.

     

  • InkuboInkubo Posts: 745
    Mardook said:

    I'm enjoying it so far... it is far more positive and enjoyable than what passes for real Star Trek these days.

    Absolutely. The show's not hilarious, but I don't care about that. They really nail the Star Trek stuff. It's much more respectful of Star Trek than those awful new films.

    I noticed Brannon Braga's name in the credits of this week's show, which probably explains why The Orville seems more like real Star Trek to me.

    I haven't watched Star Trek: Discovery. I hope it turns out to be great as well.

  • RiggswolfeRiggswolfe Posts: 913

    Episode 4 was basically a retelling of an Original Series episode but it was done pretty well. It also had some surprisingly heavy themes once again. I think I've found my current Star Trek show. 

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,085

    I only caught the first episode so far... My wife liked it and found it to be a funny take on the TNG trek series, with a bit of Galaxy Quest thrown in... I thought it was okay... with McFarlane's stuff it usually takes a few episodes to find its footing and hopefully this works out.

    I'd like to see this give some good competition to that Limited Access series... 

  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 8,048

    Some of the humor falls flat,  but the show itself is entertaining enough atleast for the four episode I've watched thus far,  I don't mind the galaxy quest vibe to it either. Light entertainment in 48 minute chunks.  The visual production value is very high. I'll be watching both this and ST:Discovery.  I'll admit it I have a soft spot for scifi.

  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 8,048

    Plus there's all these fun cameos on the series!

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    While I have issues with both shows for vastly different reasons, I am THRILLED to see so much scifi (and superhero) television to choose from

     

  • MJ007MJ007 Posts: 1,716

    I really dont know what to make of the show personally regarding it direction and what type of show its set out to be.  The CGI is saving grace for the show for me.  Very unique and awesomely designed vessels give it some entertainment value for a CGI person like me.  But the stories are flat.  The comedy is flat.  The characters are flat.  

    -MJ

  • MJ007MJ007 Posts: 1,716

    The first episode of Discovery blew away the 3-4 episodes of Orville in my opinion.

    -MJ

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    egg sitting image, lol, burned into my brain

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,931
    MJ007 said:

    I really dont know what to make of the show personally regarding it direction and what type of show its set out to be.  The CGI is saving grace for the show for me.  Very unique and awesomely designed vessels give it some entertainment value for a CGI person like me.  But the stories are flat.  The comedy is flat.  The characters are flat.  

    -MJ

    THIS^

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,931
    MJ007 said:

    The first episode of Discovery blew away the 3-4 episodes of Orville in my opinion.

    -MJ

    AND THIS!!! ^

  • OstadanOstadan Posts: 1,130

    The humor doesn't work for me.  Partly because I simply don't find most of the jokes remotely funny – but that's a matter of taste.  But also partly because it is very badly integrated with the science-fiction world that is proposed.  With science fiction or fantasy, there is a requirement that the audience in some sense 'believe' in the world (preferable to simply 'suspending disbelief', as Tolkien explains in an essay).  But every time we get a potty mouth joke, or a 'hip' black guy talking about walking in Compton, or basing not one but three jokes around calling someone 'a dick' (when did that become allowable on broadcast TV, by the way?) we are yanked forcibly back to our early-21st-century world;and pretty narrowly at that - these jokes probably won't play well even 20 years from now.  We must become consciously aware that this is just a show we're watching, and that they're trying to make us laugh.  It is an uncomfortable mixture that fails for me. 

    Note that Next Gen drew criticism along similar lines when dialogue became questionably anachronistic, e.g., Data is a toaster, or 'they hung up on us', which many viewers found jarring.

    It is a pity, because there's a good treklike show in there.

     

  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513
    Ostadan said:
    'they hung up on us'

    I actually expect that this is going to be one of those phrases that stands the test of time. There's a term for this but I forget what it's called, when slang phrases persist even though what they refer to isn't around anymore.

    The reason why I believe this is people still say they got hung up on today, even young people who have never in their lives used one of those handset phones that you physically hang up (not to mention, even corded phones haven't really been "hung up" as in dropping the handset over a hook for decades). People even talk about "hanging up" on Skype which is completely divorced from an actual phone.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    agent unawares said:
    Ostadan said:
    'they hung up on us'

    I actually expect that this is going to be one of those phrases that stands the test of time. There's a term for this but I forget what it's called, when slang phrases persist even though what they refer to isn't around anymore.

    The reason why I believe this is people still say they got hung up on today, even young people who have never in their lives used one of those handset phones that you physically hang up (not to mention, even corded phones haven't really been "hung up" as in dropping the handset over a hook for decades). People even talk about "hanging up" on Skype which is completely divorced from an actual phone.

     

    friend at work actually said "on the horn"  

    totally different thing from 'on the gorn' smiley

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,574
    RawArt said:
    Richard Haseltine said:
    DaWaterRat said:

    My daughter (who has only seen a scattering of Star Trek, because there's just too much of it and she's even less into Sci Fi than I am) jokingly insists that The Orville is another Star Trek show.

    1) there are aliens as part of the crew
    2) the uniforms are color coded by division (and security's still red)
    3) they deal with social problems
    4) they're exploring the universe on a space ship.

    I can't say she's wrong. :)

     

    Change 4 to "on the moon" ignore the colour for security and you'd have Space:1999

    Episode 4 was definitley a homage (or borrowed story idea) from an old show called "Starlost"..  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069638/ ;

    Guess I am showing my age, if I remember that one LOL

    Rawn

    I vaguely remember that show

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