Cyber Stealth bodysuit no longer in shop?
Tanis Volta
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Looking for scifi I found this texture for genesis 3 https://www.daz3d.com/cyber-stealth-bodysuit-camouflage-texture-pack
but couldn't find the cyber stealth bodysuit itself, help
This was a very cool bodysuit, what happened?
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Interesting, found it cached searching on Google, but get a 404 error (page not found). 45889, that's a pretty new SKU.
https://www.daz3d.com/cyber-stealth-bodysuit-hd-for-genesis-3-male-s
Ugh and I had that one in my wishlist too :(
Weird. The bow is still sold in the store: https://www.daz3d.com/cyber-stealth-compound-bow
I picked up the set in July, and the vendor still seems to be selling here.
They also pulled that fantasy feast hall recently released I noticed.
Products do sometimes get removed, for one reason or another. Unless the vendor offrs an explaantion there's not much that can be said.
That was removed while usage rights regarding some images were checked.
Do you know if it will be restored? Anyone can contact seller?
Hi, it was my work.
I'm going to explain here what has happened to all of the products. The first day the bundle and the suit were removed, the textures were still there, but was just for a day or two. The bow, will remain in my store, as it has nothing to do with that, is just a compound bow, which I did using internet references.
The bow still have the camos there, so could be usefull to anyone. I plan to do another sci-fi suit, it was my second one, as the first was the main suit of the Victoria 8 Bundle, the Sci-Fi Samurai. Right now working on another project, so even if it's not on a 0 stage, don't expect to see it soon.
Some of you will know the game Crysis, I used the bodysuit as inspiration, even though I use a muscular an tendon as reference to do it, but the helmet was made using the real thing as reference, and was quite similar on the overall form, not on the suit itself, so it made it to the store.
Now, for the ones that just want the fast answer, the game developers asked DAZ to remove it. So there was nothing left to do, no images showing that is just inspired, being as I said, the helmet the most, so, it was taken out of my store. It means that no further action can't be done, and that the product WILL NOT RETURN to my store.
Sorry for all of you that wanted to buy it, probably waiting for the PA sale of my store (another armor will be out really soon), it was a good product.
I'm going btw to open a promotional topic, to show my ( will hit the store in less than five days) new product.
Thank you for the explanation ZKuro :)
I appreciate that it can be difficult to say anything. On the other hand, if an item is pulled for copyright-related reasons, where does that leave end-users who may have used that item in images in various galleries etc?
I am not a lawyer!
I think individual gallery art is probably safe so long as you aren't selling the art to anyone, that falls under 'fan art'; it's when you are passing off imagery as your invention or profiting from intellectual property that you are well over the line.
So by that reckoning someone selling prints on for instance Deviant would probably be in trouble. In that case I think end-users who bought a compromised item that is pulled would need to be informed.
As I understand it, yeah
If an item is pulled from the store permanently, are you still able to redownload it or is the item permanently scrubbed from the server?
I bought the item and used it rather extensively. It is in several gallery images. It is a very nice set. The product bundle was not cheap. It is a pain to me when I buy an item to find it is derivative of something else because I do not know since I do not keep up to date on the latest games.
As far as I know I am free to use it for whatever purpose I want. I paid for that right. That right has not been rescinded nor would I buy a set not available for commercial use. If that changes daz would need to talk to me about it rather than just pull th item since I would need to know about it. The item is still in my account and I have a backup of the installer
I also have another suit bought here which appears inspired by a video game. It has not been pulled.
this is what I have been saying all along
I want to at least know if something is inspired by something so I can either kit bash or only use as fan art.
I have bought items knowing full well the inspiration, its the ones I am unaware of thats the danger, esp with 23K subscribers on my Youtube channel waiting to catch me.
Hell I even have rendered my nifskope extracted Skyrim mesh but clearly state it it is fanart taken from mesh in the game on my own personal machine simply testing how it looks in Octane with PBR lighting etc.
is not monetised
I mostly actually capture the game itself with my modded textures!
Its the selling of unidentified stuff and not being allowed to be informed by others on the forum what inspired it that really angers me.
Items not available for commercial use should not be sold here. Users should not be responsible for checking the copyright of every prop or piece of clothing.
I'm a pretty heavy gamer and still I did not know that was inspired by crisis as I've not really looked into that game (I've got enough games I still need to play and plenty more I want to get)
I had a feeling it was to do with 'Crysis'. Was very impressive visual work, however.
Perhaps there is a way to use components of it to be adapted into something more original? Then the time and effort won't have gone to waste.
It's a particular danger to me since I make rpg art for sale; I've already lost one opportunity because the customer is nervous about usage rights.
It seems to me that it should be Daz's top priority to contact everyone who owns any item that needs to get pulled due to copywrite. After all, they do have a list of everything everyone has purchased or else they wouldn't be able to have our product libraries in our account. I'm sure it doesn't happen very often, but when it does, users NEED to know since we are all under the impression that everything, save 1 item in the store, is good for 2D commercial use.
Agreed. I tend to avoid any content with dubious usage rights including some freebies just because the terms of use aren't clear. I've had it happen once already where I was forced to look up usage rights of every possible item in one scene. Not doing that again. I now only use commercial use products or items which specifically say this to avoid issues in the future
As far as I know, I only have a few items that are fan-art and when I created the DIM-ready installer for them, I gave them alll the same prefix in their name so they are all together in my products list and I can easily see that they are not to be used commercially.
This kind of stuff worries me too. All the time I see some nice-looking armor in the shop, put in my cart, then decided I don't want to spend hours to to make sure it isn't too close to some well-known property.
I've done that too. I bought robot at another site. I have a passion for robots and it was neat looking. A friend told me not to use it because it was a game knockoff. There went the money.
For what it's worth daz store is at least professional enough to concern itself with copyright and to pull the content if it has reservations or to review it. A number of places do not.
Yeah, kudos to Daz for that. I don't blame them at all for not immediately knowing.
I often look at Turbosquid for free stuff and have to pass because most of them are rips from games
I've never heard of that game, not really into gaming except for the occasional foray into the Sims or Criminal Cases on Facebook. So it really is a chore to figure out what is safe for all uses and what must be only for fan art when it comes to 3d models. The "inspired by" vs. "shamelessly copied from" divide seems to be getting muddier by the minute, just when you think you're safe because you buy from a big store that's been around awhile along comes something like this. Right now I'm thankful I was too broke to buy it immediately, sure hope those who did don't get left in the lurch.
A quick google of the game will reveal the truth and the actions of the store and the copyright holder were warranted as far as the suit it's black texture the suit and the helmet go.
Exactly. Fan art is not permitted to be sold unless the content is licensed to that individual to sell it. We shouldn't have to be worried things are a product of infringement because the store should not be accepting or selling such fraudulent content, It should be a priority for the QA to interrogate any suspect products, and stop them in their tracks. I also agree, if an item is remarkably pulled for violation, the customers who purchased it should be informed and offered a full refund. Too much has been sold here that is well and truly past the red tape, and sickeningly far too many are still live.
Vendors need to understand it isn't right to be recreating / copying characters, costumes, props or locations from games, movies, or any other media, let alone fellow artists. "Fan art" or pathetically claiming it's "inspired by" is no excuse for copyright violation. If you don't own the design and you're not licensed or permitted by the copyright holder to use it, DON'T try to sell it. Simple.
I'm glad I bought a copy shortly after it was released. It makes for a killer looking Terminator without the resemblence to Arnie. :P
Why was the fantasy feast hall removed? Same reason?