Mouth Corner Up... why no left and right?

Does anyone know why almost all posing for the face has a left and right slider... EXCEPT Mouth Corner Up-Down? It's driving me nuts. I hate symetrical smiles... lops sided grins and smirks are so much better in my opinion.

Are there any products that can add that functionality? or a combination of other morphs that can accomplish it? (mouth corner back looks totally differant)

And last, a stupid question, but the sliders that appear in posing tab, are those still called morphs?

Comments

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449

    Which figure?  If you are talking about the face rigged expressions from Genesis 3s and 8 they are called morphs only by those who don't know better.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,723

    Yes, I find that very annoying as there is usually not exactly symmetrical expressions on both sides of a person't face.

  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,078

    Simple smile, Simple smile left, Simple smile right. Lot's of expression packs. Zeddicuss has several that add expression dials rather than just a morph.

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990

    Genesis 8 seems to have those.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,723
    edited July 2017
    fastbike1 said:

    Simple smile, Simple smile left, Simple smile right. Lot's of expression packs. Zeddicuss has several that add expression dials rather than just a morph.

    Those are smiles, not the same the other expressions. 

    The individual muscles in the face have the ability to move independently and DAZ Studio users of Genesis 3 can't do that with those models and all those DAZ Store products you suggest paying lots of extra money for can't do that either.

     

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,723

    Genesis 8 seems to have those.

    And is a huge improvement.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,063

    you can use the facial bones

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020

    It is annoying there is no pose controller for it but yeah, can manually pose using the facial bones by selecting the bone in the scene heirarchi tab, you may need to unhide hidden aswell if you havent already done so (cos some reason they hid the beautiful face rig)

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    turn the frown upside down smiley

  • ThatGuyThatGuy Posts: 797

    the expression "lop sided smile" comes to mind

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    ThatGuy said:

    the expression "lop sided smile" comes to mind

     

    in Harrison Ford's case, is a bazzilion $$ smile

  • MorgalothMorgaloth Posts: 23
    SpyroRue said:

    It is annoying there is no pose controller for it but yeah, can manually pose using the facial bones by selecting the bone in the scene heirarchi tab, you may need to unhide hidden aswell if you havent already done so (cos some reason they hid the beautiful face rig)

    Ok, I'll play around with that. I've never posed using bones before, so should be interesting. Thanks everyone for the suggestions. =)

    I just can't seem to get into the G8 yet... they just don't seem to look as natural is the G3's. I can't quite place what it is, other than that they all look so muscle bound.

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