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The shoes don't fit: finding the morph to remove

IsaacNewtonIsaacNewton Posts: 1,300
in Technical Help (nuts n bolts)

I applied the shoes from the "Summer Flirt Outfit" to my G3f character and noticed that the shoes don't fit. This is a highly modified G3f character so I thought: "no problem, I'll use Easy feet morphs to reduce the feet size till they fit the shoes". However, the Easy Feet morphs are also active in the shoes as the shoes are conformed to the figure, resulting in the shoes shrinking as well, as I apply the Easy Feet morphs. "No problem!" thinks I; I'll just select the shoes and make the Easy Feet morph on the shoes a Favourite and then under Morph Editing, I'll "Clear the selected deltas from favourites". Now there is a problem... I can't find the Easy Feet morph on the shoes. I find lots of other morphs transfered from the g3f character, but not the one I'm looking for. The Easy Feet morph must be present on the shoes as it is changing the shape of the shoes, but the morph dial seems to be hiding in the laberinthine Parameters tab. Searching for it did not find it.

Any suggestions... how do I find the hidden Easy Feet morph dial on the SF-shoes, so I can remove it's effects?

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,149

    The shoes don't have their own version of the Easy Feet morphs - DS is generating them when theya re set on the figure. The simplest option is to enable Show Hidden Properties in the Parameters pane option menu (the lined button in the top corner, or right-click the tab), find the auto-geenbrated moprh, and zero it.

  • IsaacNewtonIsaacNewton Posts: 1,300

    Hi Richard, yes that's what I thought. I have Show Hidden Properties enabled and I still can't see any morph dial with a name resembling anything to do with the shoes or "Easy Feet" except "sfshoes" which is set to 100% and cannot be changed. I have tried putting that in Favourites and then Clearing the selected deltas from favourites, but that does not work.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,149

    Clearing deltas isn't a useful approach - the morphs will just regenerate. Check under Currently Used while Show Hidden is active.

  • IsaacNewtonIsaacNewton Posts: 1,300
    Richard Haseltine said:

    Clearing deltas isn't a useful approach - the morphs will just regenerate. Check under Currently Used while Show Hidden is active.

    Hi Richard, yes I already did that. There is no property (morph dial) for anything related to Easy Feet on the Shoes figure.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,149

    Try setting the Parameters pane to Edit Mode (right-click) and then find the controls, on the base figure, for easyFeet. Every slider should have a letter in a sqaure to its left, which indicates the property type - how are the EasyFeet sliders marked?

  • IsaacNewtonIsaacNewton Posts: 1,300
    edited July 2017

    Hi Richard, already tried that one too. The Easy Feet morph dials on g3f show only when the figure foot is selected (first image). When the shoes are selected the corresponding property is not found, either when the parent is selected or the foot (second image).

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,149

    OK, the control on the foot is probably driving soemthing else - try clicking the gear icon on the slider, Parameter settings, and look in the Sub-Components tab.

  • IsaacNewtonIsaacNewton Posts: 1,300
    edited July 2017

    No subcomponents... see pic.

    BTW, you asked about the letter for the Easy Feet properties.... they are marked A.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,149

    A is for alias, I think. Still, by the labels those are pose controls not morphs

  • IsaacNewtonIsaacNewton Posts: 1,300
    Richard Haseltine said:

    A is for alias, I think. Still, by the labels those are pose controls not morphs

    The ones I want to use are Propagating Size and Length, surely those are morphs. In the end I don't care whether they are morphs or JCMs (though I accept that might affect how to get rid of them), I just want to remove them from the shoe so they only affect the feet. It would seem to me to be a fairly obvious option to have; Sometimes you would want the changes to apply to both the feet and the shoes automatically (this is the default situation at the moment), but sometimes you would want the changes to affect only the feet and NOT the shoes so the morphs can be used as FIT morphs.

    In anycase DS is clearly transfering the Easy Feet changes from the G3f character to the SF-shoes. The question is "how", and how do I prevent it?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,149

    If they are driving properties (scale) then you should be able toa pply a counter-scale on the shoes, though a propagataing scale option is going to be more complext then simply a single adjustment.

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