GPU Prices Dropping

ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
WOW. Newegg selling Gigabyte GTX 1070 for $450. And they have 1070s and 1080s for $450 to $550. I read that ethereum prices crashed 20% on Sunday. Crazy.

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  • Silver DolphinSilver Dolphin Posts: 1,638

    I have three 1070's and they are great. The first was a 1070 that was on sale on black friday and it was a great deal under $400 with 3 fans. The 1070 video card was so good at Iray I bought 2 more on craigslist both founders editions that work great just have turn on the fan to 100% before doing a render. Once the price on 1080ti drop I will purchase one to run my monitors and render along side my 1070's.

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    Three 1070s???? Wow i only have one. I might jump on the one for $450. Do additional 1070s speed up your iray preview?
  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,247

     

    ebergerly said:
    WOW. Newegg selling Gigabyte GTX 1070 for $450. And they have 1070s and 1080s for $450 to $550. I read that ethereum prices crashed 20% on Sunday. Crazy.

    The prices still are iinflated. Before they started going up, up, up & away in price the GTX 1070 s were in the $300 to $400 price range

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    edited July 2017

    Yeah i think i paid just under 400 a few months ago. But 450 looks good next to the 800 to 900 a week ago

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  • ToborTobor Posts: 2,300

    Odd. I bought my EVGA 1070 with 8GB for $379 +shipping on Amazon a few months back. It is now listed at $700 (different seller now). If anything, the prices seem to be going UP, and the scalpers appear well entrenched.

  • ZyloxZylox Posts: 787

    I hope prices drop accross the board for GPUs. I would like to get a new one in August, but the prices have been a little too high for me.

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    Yeah it is odd. Newegg has some in 450 to 550 range and a bunch in 700 to 900 range.
  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    edited July 2017

    Interesting...

    PCPartPicker posts charts of average price of GPU's over the last 18 months. And based on those it looks like the LOWEST average prices in the last 18 months for the GTX 1070, 1080, and 1080ti are as follows. Well, approximately depending on how you read the graph:

    • GTX 1070: $420
    • GTX 1080: $620 (?)
    • GTX 1080ti: $710 (?)

    And today's lowest prices on newegg for those are as follows:

    • GTX 1070: $450 - 480
    • GTX 1080: $510 - 550
    • GTX 1080ti: $710 - 750

    So if pcpartpicker is right, it looks like the GTX 1080 is at an all time low average price, and the GTX 1070 and GTX 1080ti are not much above their all time average low price. Of course that's the average, so that means there are/were a bunch selling both above and below that...

     

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,722

    Well, I'd buy a ATI card and render in Blender and/or  use the ATI ProRenderer SW before I allowed myself to be price gouged for video cards on 1 year release cycles.

  • JamesJABJamesJAB Posts: 1,766
    ebergerly said:

    Interesting...

    PCPartPicker posts charts of average price of GPU's over the last 18 months. And based on those it looks like the LOWEST average prices in the last 18 months for the GTX 1070, 1080, and 1080ti are as follows. Well, approximately depending on how you read the graph:

    • GTX 1070: $420
    • GTX 1080: $620 (?)
    • GTX 1080ti: $710 (?)

    And today's lowest prices on newegg for those are as follows:

    • GTX 1070: $450 - 480
    • GTX 1080: $510 - 550
    • GTX 1080ti: $710 - 750

    So if pcpartpicker is right, it looks like the GTX 1080 is at an all time low average price, and the GTX 1070 and GTX 1080ti are not much above their all time average low price. Of course that's the average, so that means there are/were a bunch selling both above and below that...

     

    The GTX 1080 price average you are seing has nothing to do with ethereum mining.  The price drop you are seing has to do with it's price drop after the 1080 ti came out. 

    The 1080 and the 1080ti where not effected by the mining bubble, the two cards that inflated horribly from the mining bubble where the GTX 1060 (3 and 6GB versions) and 1070.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    JamesJAB said:
    The 1080 and the 1080ti where not effected by the mining bubble, the two cards that inflated horribly from the mining bubble where the GTX 1060 (3 and 6GB versions) and 1070.

    I have to respectfully disagree. I have an MSI GTX 1080 Armor in my new computer, which I bought from Cybersource PC last October. In another thread, one of the members was bemoaning the price increases, so I took a look at my 1080 over at Newegg, (I really want to add a second card,) and the price was $549.99. I almost bought it, but I wanted to discuss it with my husband first. The very next day it was up around $100. And it topped out at $749, in less than a week. It's only just come down to $639.99 the end of last week. Sadly, it seems to be holding steady at that price.

    Perhaps it is an indirect effect, with the 1060s and 1070s so expensive, people bought the 1080 instead...? But regardless, these cards were definitely affected by the mining bubble.

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    edited July 2017

    If you look at the charts I was referring to, I think JamesJAB has a point, at least according to the AVERAGE price. In March of this year when the 1080ti's came out, you can see a drop in average prices for the 1080 just before the ti's were released. And it looks like they never recovered to this day, though in June/July the average seems to slightly trend up a bit. 

    The tough thing is that the market changes on a daily/hourly basis. If you look at newegg one day the prices might be $100 or more greater than the next day. Even this week that was the case. It depends on a lot of stuff, like the place you're shopping at, the stock they have, buyers' perceptions and emotions, and so on. I mean, how many people really understand the etherium or any other market in enough depth to know what they should pay for a GPU on any given day? I'm guessing a lot of people respond to clickbait and headlines without knowing the real details. 

    I know I do... smiley

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,722

    Well what does the 1080 go for, say at a Fry's, Best Buy, or MediaMarkt actual physical location?

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255

    Well what does the 1080 go for, say at a Fry's, Best Buy, or MediaMarkt actual physical location?

    Is your browser broken ? smiley

    (sorry, I couldn't resist)...

  • JamesJABJamesJAB Posts: 1,766

    The reason behind the 1080 price never "recovering" is that the price officialy dropped because the old price was too close to the MSRP of the 1080 ti.

    Right now on newegg the cheapest 1080 (Gigabyte GV-N1080WF3OC-8GD) is selling for $509.99.

    On the flip side most of the GTX 1070 cards cost more than the 1080 cards on newegg.  This has to do with how much crypto currency each card can mine per Watt used. The 1060 and 1070 cards are more proffitable to run on a long term basis for miners.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,722
    ebergerly said:

    Well what does the 1080 go for, say at a Fry's, Best Buy, or MediaMarkt actual physical location?

    Is your browser broken ? smiley

    (sorry, I couldn't resist)...

    No, but... laugh If you are being price gouged online then it makes sense to visit a physical big-box store, back-order what you want for a fair price at their store, and wait.  

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    ebergerly said:

    If you look at the charts I was referring to, I think JamesJAB has a point, at least according to the AVERAGE price. In March of this year when the 1080ti's came out, you can see a drop in average prices for the 1080 just before the ti's were released. And it looks like they never recovered to this day, though in June/July the average seems to slightly trend up a bit. 

    The tough thing is that the market changes on a daily/hourly basis. If you look at newegg one day the prices might be $100 or more greater than the next day. Even this week that was the case. It depends on a lot of stuff, like the place you're shopping at, the stock they have, buyers' perceptions and emotions, and so on. I mean, how many people really understand the etherium or any other market in enough depth to know what they should pay for a GPU on any given day? I'm guessing a lot of people respond to clickbait and headlines without knowing the real details. 

    I know I do... smiley

    My observation is the card I want went up $200 in the course of a single week at NewEgg and has only recently come down a bit more than $100. I did check other sites, (like Amazon, for one,) and the prices elsewhere were consistently higher than NewEgg. Comparing the low price at one store with the high price at another doesn't really tell me what the trend is. I may be able to look around and find the card I want elsewhere for less, online or off, but that doesn't negate the observation that the one card, at least, was affected to some degree by the rapid increase in price of the other cards.

    Now, how that came about could easily be because of clickbait and headlines. laugh

    But I do believe, to a certain extent, prices went up on the 1080 due to supply and demand. If you were looking at buying a 1060 and saw a 1080 for only a small amount more, wouldn't you find a way to get the 1080 iinstead? I know I would, if I had to raid my husband's sock drawer to do it! (With his full knowledge, of course.)
    angel  \..0../  devil

  • Ongoing MomentOngoing Moment Posts: 78
    edited July 2017
    I understand some people need a card now. But when the cryptocurrency market crashes again or more the used GPU card market is going to be flooded. I did read an article that speculated Nvidia was not thrilled with the crypto situation and was holding out building cards to satiate current demand in order to avoid an oversaturated market when crypto crashes.
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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847
    edited July 2017

    Well, I'd buy a ATI card and render in Blender and/or  use the ATI ProRenderer SW before I allowed myself to be price gouged for video cards on 1 year release cycles.

    ...certian models of AMD cards were also affected as well and as a matter of fact as I read there are a couple AMD based dedicated mining cards out.

    Considering I have a pretty decent handle on Iray, and feel I need an enigma machine to figure out Blender, I can wait for the dust to settle once the cryptomning bubble bursts totally.

    Besides I am pretty much set on a 1080 Ti which really hasn't been affected by the bubble.  Yeah, forthcoming air cooled Vega Frontier (With 16 GB of HBM2) will be only about 280$ more, but I am done with Lux and Reality because of the ineherient instabilities and really dislike node based shader editing systems.

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  • JCThomasJCThomas Posts: 254

    When the 1080 ti came out, Nvidia reduced the official MSRP of the 1080 to $499. I think the 1070 was $349 (but not sure on that one). The official MSRP of the 1080 ti was $699. I'd say the 1080 tis available now are within the expected price range. Most Founder's Editions can be found for $699, and most custom cooled models are going for between 709 to 850, depending on the type of cooling. The Tis weren't affected as much by the mining craze because they use more power and thus not as efficent. Also would take longer to see a return.

    Anyway, yeah, the prices for 1070 and 1080 are still inflated. 

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