OT: Windows 10S Be Warned..
Ghosty12
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Just a little heads up on another version of Windows 10 this one is called Windows 10S and from all intents and purposes is very limited, in that any third party software that has not been converted to use the Universal Windows Platform will not install let alone run..
http://www.zdnet.com/article/what-is-windows-10-s/
The one interesting thing about this version is that it has the update features of Windows 10 Pro, other than that just a heads up to those who are thinking of getting it..
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...yeah, one tech journals I subscibe to mentions that MS i looking at this as a model for future versions of W10.
Scary.
Very as what this looks like it does is lock out all those vendors who do not subscribe to the UWP, which does not bode well for the end user..
It's just one version of Windows 10, maybe this will replace the Home family someday but a Pro vesion can't and will never be so restrictive.
Let's hope that software editors (including DAZ) , freewares community just boycott the Windows Store and W10S will be a new Windows Vista....
I wish the Linux world wasn't such an incredibly twisted mess of thousands of distributions/versions, many of which (such as Ubuntu) are pretty much useless for those familiar with anything close to Windows, and the community would settle on ONE desktop version for regular users (like my favorite Mint/Mate) so that Windows could go off into the sunset.
I'm guessing Microsoft would be glad to get out of the desktop market since it's probably such a small part of their income compared to mobile stuff. And getting smaller....
Got a new laptop yesterday....has windows 10 and I hate it already. Thinking of buying another seat of Windows 8.1 and getting rid of 10 altogether.
Laurie
Give it time. It grows on you ... lika a fungus!
Actually though, I've gotten used to the Win10 interface and most other ideosyncracies. But I still have one Win7Pro machine that I use and keep around for situations for which Win10 doesn't work. Haven't found any yet.
I'm curious, why do you hate Windows 10? I despise all Windows versions, but I thought Windows 10 wasn't all that bad. Of course after you spend 20 minutes going thru and turning off all the privacy and XBox and all that other useless nonsense and installing Classic Shell so it looks like Win 7
But it does boot nice and fast, and I just noticed the latest version seems to automatically recognize and play nice with other computers on the private network, something I've wanted in Windows for decades.
As I understand it Windows 10S is designed as a reply to Chromebooks, hoping to regain lost ground in education and perhaps in other markets where simple computers accessing a central server have made inroads.
So far my experience with Windows 10 has been good. I just wish I could permanently disable the automatic reboots.
I was fortunate to have been able to get Windows 7 Pro on deep discount when it first came out (College student discount) so when the Win10 upgrade came out, I was able to go to Win10 Pro and with a couple of quick changes in the system settings, my updates work as I liked them in 7, they download but do not install until I tell it to which means no more reboots in the middle of overnight renders :)
As far as the usability of Windows 10, I don't find it to be all that bad. For me it's a tie with Windows 7 except that I was really hoping there would have been more compatability with older software as people originally thought (Although it does seem to have more compatability than Win8)
I can't remember what it was but something was left out of Windows 8 that removed compatability for a lot of older games and software and they were supposed to be adding it back into Win10 with some additions that made it even more compatable with older stuff than Win 7, But I think it's somewhere between Win8 and Win7
same here. Supposedly with the pro version you can defer updates, but I have not had such luck with that
If you are on Pro, in cortana search box type gpedit.msc
Then in the group polocy settings go to Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Update
Then I went through each setting that looked like it had to do with downloading and/or installing updates or rebooting and selected the options that most reminded me of the "download but do not install" option in windows 7
Now Win10 will tell me there are updates, but it won't do anything until I personally go into settings and click install. If the update needs to reboot the computer, it will occasionally nag me that it needs to reboot, but it won't reboot itself, I need to reboot it.
I love my W10 machines, loved 8 and 8.1 as well, don't see what all the fuss is about to be honest.
This is how I'm seeing Win10S as well. I'm a network admin for company with offices in multiple countries, as well as multiple call centers. We are constantly fighting against users installing unapproved crapware on our systems (there's a balance between how tightly you lock a machine down yet not have to spend all of your time at said machine unlocking things that are necccessary but were blocked by the security rules, our company policy is to err on being more permissive so we don't have to spend as much of our time holding the users hand). It would definitely be nice to have an OS we can roll out and not have to worry about. Unfortunately, it won't really work for us right now, we do have programs that we have to use that are not, and probably will never be, part of the UWP. Although, come to think of it, we could use this right now at the conventions we put on for our associates where we have to supply computers for them to use to access our website and it's apps. This would definitely simplify setup for those.
Windows 10S is a dream OS for folk that take tech support calls and practically speaking more than sufficient for all but developers of Windows 10 applications and such. I might upgrade to it if the various applications I use support it like Unity, DAZ Studio, Blender, Poser, Moho, and so on. I have Windows 10 Pro and Visual Studio Enterprise but I use those only in the context of Unity, UE4, and such.
I've heard the opposite - that the desktop market has started growing again. People have realized the limitations of mobile devices and also want a solid PC for all that a mobile device can't do.
You can. There are two methods:
I have done the former. Google for details...
There is a small tutorial here:
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/1656256/#Comment_1656256
I've currently postponed the Creator's Update and whatever has been added to the updates list for two weeks now. When it says there are updates, I just click the message to open the updates page and then close the page again.
I usually install the updates as soon as they come but the Creator's Update is a major update and I fear it may mess up my system (has happened to others). I do have an image of my system so I can restore it immediately but I have to update and install a lot of stuff to get up to par with my current system and don't have time for that right now.
Really ?? Wow that's good news for us desktop folks. But surprising. I mean when you look around the world, especially all those countries with zillions of people but extremely poor. Everyone has a cellphone, but not many can afford anything near a desktop. Maybe in the US it's changing, but even that I find that hard to believe.
Y'know, if 1% of the population owns desktops, and 99% owns only a cellphone, then a change to 2% desktops is a 100% change, but in the scheme of things it's still, well, only 2%.
you can.
I do it manually, but there are tools to shut down W10 spy-like and controlling tendences.
Just saw a program on TV about the IT development in Africa - sure, currently it's all about mobile devices, but the whole thing is growing very fast and many are starting to make good money from it. And when they realize they can make even more money through programming and graphics work etc. which is hard or impossible without a PC I imagine many will invest in one.
The biggest advantage of pro to 3D users is the memory space 128GB. Of course that means a bigger bucks for the workstation.
I have my internet set to metered You do that and it doesn't even bug you to update. Or remind you to check.
Seting it up is super easy just select your inernet connection from the task bar, hit properties, and then turn on metered connection
And I don't have Windows Pro just the normal old Home Version
...can you bypass Cortana to do this?
If I ever had to switch to W10 (small chance as they still need to do something about it reserving a sizeable chunk of VRAM), the "Spawn of Bob" would be the one of the first things I'd uninstall along with all the telemetry gathering, Xbox stuff, and other "foofy" rubbish I don't need.
Methinks someone at MS has watched way too much Star Trek and Andromeda.
I'm not sure, I just left cortana intact. The only time I use it is to pull up an app quickly on my pc. I guess I could have just simply said the run box
...what, you need Cortana to open programmes? What ever happened to trusty ol' Windows Explorer?
Yeah, I dislike Cortana too, as well as all the junk Microsoft adds to increase revenue. Operating systems should sit in the background and allow you to run your software, nothing more.
So I always use a freebie called Classic Shell, which quickly gets rid of all the mobile-type stuff in W10, and brings it back to the Win 7 era with a simple start menu and stuff.
You can also kill Cortana but you have to edit the registry. I guess Cortana is a great way for Microsoft to gather zillions of bits of marketing data via search data, and they don't want to give that up easily.
I've been using Windows since it first came out, and I STILL have problems any time I want to access another computer on my network. The sharing/homegroup/networking nonsense is atrocious. Just when I think I have it, I can't access a folder on the other computer. And instead of working on stuff like that, they make Cortana. Geez.
Once cleared of all nonessential stuff, the Windows 10 task bar and start menu are close enough for me; what irks me to no end is how they're mangling the Control Panel. If I click on something there, I want the original functional applet, not a redirect to their replacement which I dislike.
It's only for the ones that don't end up in start menu for whatever reason (Usually the built in apps like notepad or paint, msconfig, etc.) so it's actually very rarely I use it.
I started with Windows 3.1. Windows 95, 98 and win2k were the easiest versions for setting up file sharing. Once I went to XP I've had nothing but problems so I gave up on that. I'd have drives shared in XP then a few days later I'd have to set it all up again because Windows reset something.
I noticed something in the latest Windows 10 that just updated yesterday. I have a new Windows 10 Home I just installed on my new computer, so I had to connect with another computer on my network at home.
And surprisingly, I opened "Network" in windows explorer and it recognized the other computer, and immediately I could access its folders. I think it had only asked me if it was a private network.
I haven't experimented much since, but if it now defaults to allowing total access on private networks, and from there you can tweak it to add restrictions, I think this is the greatest improvement in Windows since it first came out in the 90's (?).