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Blue Planet- who owns this?

Griffin AvidGriffin Avid Posts: 3,819
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Best Seller means a bunch of us got it!

Again, is this EARTH or ANY blue planet?

I asked before, but no one who owned it ever chimed in......

Can I change the color of the planet, clouds or any of those separate layers?

Generally, can we do this on our own with Materials or Shaders?

https://www.daz3d.com/blue-planet-orbital-view

I'd like this to be my defacto close orbit foundation, but only if it can be anyplanet, Galaxy.

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,087

    It's very specific to Earth-like, changing it would be hard. Also it's a 3DL product and while you CAN convert it to Iray, it's a bit tricky (I've done it, but it's tricky)

    The key thing is to just not bother with the ubervolume, which is there to create atmosphere. It just... won't work well in Iray. There IS a really nifty thing -- so in the background is an arch or disk or something that grades from translucent to completely transparent. That creates the effect of the atmosphere grading into space.

    One thing you'll find in Iray is that while the foundation of it is physically realistic, that can be a trap and you should totally ignore realism when it more easily creates the effect you want. I bring that up because there are a bunch of products using old school Billboard techniques in Iray, and some folks think that's 'cheating'. Like we're somehow being graded on purity points or something.

    Billboard is just a plane with an image on it... but people have really convincing clouds, flames, fog, godrays, etc using it, and it can create great effects that are otherwise next to (or flat-out) impossible to do in Iray.

     

    I bring all of THAT up because the atmosphere fading into space effect is something someone might get all worked up trying to simulate, and, well, Iray just doesn't do that and even if it did it would take days to render on most machines.

    Instead, FAKE IT

     

     

  • Griffin AvidGriffin Avid Posts: 3,819

    Thank you. I'll be sticking to post then.

    I battled the 3Delight engine in my last work(s) and it wasn't fun.

    The SPEED was awesome. I even liked how it drew in the render from top to bottom like bricks, but too many things looks weird and flat.

    And I can't go through 100s of surfaces and items trying to do fixes.

    Not enough skill or time for that.

    Damn it. Good bye big blue.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,087

    3dl is capable of a lot of amazing stuff, and the ability to go from highly simplified lighting/shading to highly photorealistic stuff is very cool.

    You can make highly photorealistic stuff in 3dl! But it takes a fair amount of skill to do so, and the speed advantage goes away (since you get closer and closer to doing the same calculations Iray is doing)

    3dl also has some amazing weird effects Iray can't do, and handles displacement far better.

     

    The problem is that Daz' implementation of 3dl is a junk pile; a slew of different era approaches and styles all jumbled together with little rhyme or reason, and little documentation. There are all sorts of quirks to navigate, and you can easily end up with renders that hang or take forever.

    The folks who still do 3dl in Daz, many of them code their own lights and shaders to get things working right.

     

    It's a shame, because 3dl is capable of a LOT, but, imo, just isn't worth the time and energy in Daz.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,844

    try this one instead avxp, it's great and you can edit the textures to create your own type of planet https://www.daz3d.com/planet-earth-utra-hd-32k-for-iray

     

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,087

    Yeah, that's a gorgeous product. Been meaning to buy it at some point.

     

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,753

    It's Earth-like but not the Earth.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,264
    edited June 2017

    The NASA Blue Marble series are free jpgs that can be applied to a sphere: https://visibleearth.nasa.gov/view_cat.php?categoryID=1484

    Also you can get some good earth jpgs free from the Celestial Motherlode:http://www.celestiamotherlode.net/catalog/earth.php These can also be applied to a sphere to create a realistic earth

    Post edited by Charlie Judge on
  • Griffin AvidGriffin Avid Posts: 3,819

    Great suggestions Charlie!

    That HD earth, now thatI  bought 3 others. lol

    https://www.daz3d.com/ocean-wide

    Well, what about this product?

    Is this 3Delight only and what happens if I use iray?

    I'm going to have to build a new cart of discounts....lol

     

     

  • Kevin SandersonKevin Sanderson Posts: 1,643
    edited June 2017

    ThePhilosopher also has an animated ocean --well you can make it an ocean:  https://www.daz3d.com/ireal-animated-ocean-water-system

    Post edited by Kevin Sanderson on
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