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  • DarkRepastDarkRepast Posts: 226
    Taoz said:
    DarkRepast said:
    FSMCDesigns said:
    DarkRepast said:
    timmins.william said:

    What I'd do with hair:

    First, use UHT

    Second, don't autofit the hair to the figure, just place and possibly collision. It eliminates a lot of the weird morphing that can happen with loose hair like that.

    Third, set Cutout Opacity to 80% or so. I find that 'softens' hair nicely in many cases.

    Fourth, in postwork, I'd probably do a dynamic skin soften pass for the skin and then ANOTHER pass for the hair.

     

    Hi there! Thanks for the response.

     

    I'm not sure how to place the hair without it autofitting. I totally see what you're talking about. The second it auto fits, it creates the ribbon effect. I just can't figure out how to make it NOT auto fit now. 

    Also, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by the dynamic skin soften...is that something you propose in Photoshop?

     

    Thank you very much! You were totally right about that auto fit!

    I never autofit hair unless it is very short. Just load your figure in default pose, then load the hair and when the dialouge to autofit comes on, cancel it. Then position the hair into place, parent it to the head and apply smoothing/collision if you need a perfect fit.

    Hm. I don't get an auto fit dialogue box. It just does it.

    Right-click on the hair in the viewport (with Node Selection Tool selected) or on the Scene tab, and select "Fit (xxxx) hair to", there you can unfit it (select "None" in combo box).

     

    Got it!!! Thank you!!!!!!!

  • DarkRepastDarkRepast Posts: 226

    I got it! Thank you so much!!!!

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    edited June 2017
    msam921 said:
    Taoz said:

    ... OOT's Iray Hair shader ...

    Wait... WAIT. HOLD ON. OOT has a hair shader? Where??? I will sell one of my organs for this hair shader.

    It's called OOT IrayPair Hair and it's available at Renderosity. Just do a search for "IrayPair" and both the base product and expansion will come up, (along with a bunch of unrelated stuff!) Twenty bucks, each. No need to sell any organs. I have the base, and I use it on almost every hair I render.

    ETA: Well, h3ll... I shoulda refreshed the page before doing anything! lol

    Post edited by L'Adair on
  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    DarkRepast said:
    Cayman Studios said:

    One trick with hair is to SubD it, which will remove a lot of the kinks.  I don't know if that was done here, but it looks like it.

    I tried to convert to subd but it gives me an error that I have to pick something that hasn't already been converted.

    In that case, go into the parameters for the hair and bump up the resolution by "1"... if it's set to "1", set it to "2", etc.

  • DarkRepastDarkRepast Posts: 226

    I'm trying out the OOT shaders and they do make the hair look leaps and bounds better. 

    But there still must be a ton of post production work going into that image. Flashy Hair is a cool cut but even with the shader, it looks pretty chunky.

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,925

    I go with Slosh's hair shaders. You can set the transparency and shine, there's three levels for each. There's settings for the top coat, etc. 

    Surprised they featured a Renderosity character for a Daz page that's prominent. I would think we have enough Daz characters to do one of those.

  • msam921msam921 Posts: 141
    Novica said:

    I go with Slosh's hair shaders. You can set the transparency and shine, there's three levels for each. There's settings for the top coat, etc. 

    Surprised they featured a Renderosity character for a Daz page that's prominent. I would think we have enough Daz characters to do one of those.

    I also have Slosh's hair shader package, but I find it makes hair look too straw-like for my personal taste. Admittedly, I haven't delved deeply into the package. Maybe If I played with the settings more, I would like it better.

  • msam921msam921 Posts: 141
    L'Adair said:
    msam921 said:
    Taoz said:

    ... OOT's Iray Hair shader ...

    Wait... WAIT. HOLD ON. OOT has a hair shader? Where??? I will sell one of my organs for this hair shader.

    It's called OOT IrayPair Hair and it's available at Renderosity. Just do a search for "IrayPair" and both the base product and expansion will come up, (along with a bunch of unrelated stuff!) Twenty bucks, each. No need to sell any organs. I have the base, and I use it on almost every hair I render.

    Well $40 is a heck of a lot of money in my house, so that kidney offer is still on the table. LOL

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,141

    There are options to add shine.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    msam921 said:
    L'Adair said:
    msam921 said:
    Taoz said:

    ... OOT's Iray Hair shader ...

    Wait... WAIT. HOLD ON. OOT has a hair shader? Where??? I will sell one of my organs for this hair shader.

    It's called OOT IrayPair Hair and it's available at Renderosity. Just do a search for "IrayPair" and both the base product and expansion will come up, (along with a bunch of unrelated stuff!) Twenty bucks, each. No need to sell any organs. I have the base, and I use it on almost every hair I render.

    Well $40 is a heck of a lot of money in my house, so that kidney offer is still on the table. LOL

    I bought mine at 25% off...

    The following week, OOT's store went to 50% off. Not being DAZ, I wasn't able to get a credit for the difference in price. sad

    I'd recommend waiting for a sale, but I see you already bought both products... Kidney, huh?
    laugh

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    I've tried both oot shaders and slosh's. I prefer the shaders by oot. 

     

  • DarkRepastDarkRepast Posts: 226
    Novica said:

    I go with Slosh's hair shaders. You can set the transparency and shine, there's three levels for each. There's settings for the top coat, etc. 

    Surprised they featured a Renderosity character for a Daz page that's prominent. I would think we have enough Daz characters to do one of those.

    I'm surprised too. And unless I'm reading it wrong, Maryann is a Victoria 4 figure--which would definitely be directing folks to try some older models rather than the Gen3 Daz would like one to buy.

  • raven449raven449 Posts: 46
    edited June 2017

    The renderosity page for Maryann says she is Gen 3. I had been trying to find out which model Addy used since i saw the portrait.

    Post edited by raven449 on
  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited June 2017

    I don't think the store really screens that content is made or sold at daz to be used in banner art. There are a fair amount of renders used in banners  which contain non-daz content and non-daz rendering engines.

    Post edited by Serene Night on
  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,849
    DarkRepast said:
    Novica said:

    I go with Slosh's hair shaders. You can set the transparency and shine, there's three levels for each. There's settings for the top coat, etc. 

    Surprised they featured a Renderosity character for a Daz page that's prominent. I would think we have enough Daz characters to do one of those.

    I'm surprised too. And unless I'm reading it wrong, Maryann is a Victoria 4 figure--which would definitely be directing folks to try some older models rather than the Gen3 Daz would like one to buy.

    Why anyone should be surprised is beyond me, I doubt DAZ are that petty. The images posted on the main page are more than likely to show what can be done with the app "and" the products, not to promote specific products. Face it, without the DAZ base figures none of the characters would exist. There are also images that have been rendered outside of DS is other renderers that have been showcased.

    I love the DAZ MP as much as the next person, but there are other ways to make images, other places to get meshes and other stores.

    Yes, you are reading it wrong, Maryann is for genesis 3, says so right there on the product page.

  • GreymomGreymom Posts: 1,146

    If Addy were to put up a detailed tutorial in the store on how this incredible picture was done, I would buy it!

     

  • DarkRepastDarkRepast Posts: 226
    FSMCDesigns said:
    DarkRepast said:
    Novica said:

    I go with Slosh's hair shaders. You can set the transparency and shine, there's three levels for each. There's settings for the top coat, etc. 

    Surprised they featured a Renderosity character for a Daz page that's prominent. I would think we have enough Daz characters to do one of those.

    I'm surprised too. And unless I'm reading it wrong, Maryann is a Victoria 4 figure--which would definitely be directing folks to try some older models rather than the Gen3 Daz would like one to buy.

    Why anyone should be surprised is beyond me, I doubt DAZ are that petty. The images posted on the main page are more than likely to show what can be done with the app "and" the products, not to promote specific products. Face it, without the DAZ base figures none of the characters would exist. There are also images that have been rendered outside of DS is other renderers that have been showcased.

    I love the DAZ MP as much as the next person, but there are other ways to make images, other places to get meshes and other stores.

    Yes, you are reading it wrong, Maryann is for genesis 3, says so right there on the product page.

    Yeah, I went back and saw I was wrong. Sorry about the confusion.

  • DarkRepastDarkRepast Posts: 226
    Greymom said:

    If Addy were to put up a detailed tutorial in the store on how this incredible picture was done, I would buy it!

     

    Me too and right now.

  • msam921msam921 Posts: 141
    L'Adair said:
    msam921 said:
    L'Adair said:
    msam921 said:
    Taoz said:

    ... OOT's Iray Hair shader ...

    Wait... WAIT. HOLD ON. OOT has a hair shader? Where??? I will sell one of my organs for this hair shader.

    It's called OOT IrayPair Hair and it's available at Renderosity. Just do a search for "IrayPair" and both the base product and expansion will come up, (along with a bunch of unrelated stuff!) Twenty bucks, each. No need to sell any organs. I have the base, and I use it on almost every hair I render.

    Well $40 is a heck of a lot of money in my house, so that kidney offer is still on the table. LOL

    I bought mine at 25% off...

    The following week, OOT's store went to 50% off. Not being DAZ, I wasn't able to get a credit for the difference in price. sad

    I'd recommend waiting for a sale, but I see you already bought both products... Kidney, huh?
    laugh

    Normally I do wait for sales, but A) I've been wishing for an OOT hair shader for almost as long as I've been using Daz Studio and B) in my experience, steep discounts at Rendo happen a lot less frequently than here at Daz. The fact that coupons don't even apply for IrayPair makes me think it's not going on sale again any time soon.

    It's always irksome when products go on sale right after I've bought them. I actually try to avoid looking at a product's page once I've purchased it, because I don't want to see it at a much lower price than I paid and get all honked off, lol. I've never requested a refund for this, though. The way I look at it, it's like a card game - you win some, you lose some.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    msam921 said:
    L'Adair said:
    msam921 said:
    L'Adair said:
    msam921 said:
    Taoz said:

    ... OOT's Iray Hair shader ...

    Wait... WAIT. HOLD ON. OOT has a hair shader? Where??? I will sell one of my organs for this hair shader.

    It's called OOT IrayPair Hair and it's available at Renderosity. Just do a search for "IrayPair" and both the base product and expansion will come up, (along with a bunch of unrelated stuff!) Twenty bucks, each. No need to sell any organs. I have the base, and I use it on almost every hair I render.

    Well $40 is a heck of a lot of money in my house, so that kidney offer is still on the table. LOL

    I bought mine at 25% off...

    The following week, OOT's store went to 50% off. Not being DAZ, I wasn't able to get a credit for the difference in price. sad

    I'd recommend waiting for a sale, but I see you already bought both products... Kidney, huh?
    laugh

    Normally I do wait for sales, but A) I've been wishing for an OOT hair shader for almost as long as I've been using Daz Studio and B) in my experience, steep discounts at Rendo happen a lot less frequently than here at Daz. The fact that coupons don't even apply for IrayPair makes me think it's not going on sale again any time soon.

    It's always irksome when products go on sale right after I've bought them. I actually try to avoid looking at a product's page once I've purchased it, because I don't want to see it at a much lower price than I paid and get all honked off, lol. I've never requested a refund for this, though. The way I look at it, it's like a card game - you win some, you lose some.

    True. And I've never regretted the purchase, either. $15 for OOT Iray hair shaders is still a very good deal.

  • DarkRepastDarkRepast Posts: 226

    So after chatting with all of you fabulous folks (who gave me a TON of fantastic ideas), y'all gave me enough advice to send me down several paths. I took some tutorials, picked up the OOT Hair Shaders, really dove into lighting and started down the path to trying to get as fabulous as Addy (I want to reach for the stars here even if it's impractical).

    This is my attempt. Not quite done but I thought I'd share since I won't be able to get back to it for a couple days. I figure this post will be a bit buried by then.

     

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