Keep Calm : There's always another Sale (Daily Sale Talk)

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  • GuyGenesisGuyGenesis Posts: 143
    edited March 2017

    Concerning the Bonus Buyer Sale, does anyone know if the following works in daz?

    RenderStudio 2014 Modular 5 - Smoke FX
    RenderStudio P8-2014 Mini Modular 7 - Window Lights
    RenderStudio P8-2014 Modular 11 - SkyLight And Atmosphere
    RenderStudio P8-2014 Modular 12 - AfterGlow And Atmosphere 2

    Being designated as Poser in name and software compatability I'm thinking not? and with the last two saying they use Poser's "Depth Cue" that reinforces my belief, but thought I'd ask anyways.

    Thank you

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  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772

    Concerning the Bonus Buyer Sale, does anyone know if the following works in daz?

    RenderStudio 2014 Modular 5 - Smoke FX
    RenderStudio P8-2014 Mini Modular 7 - Window Lights
    RenderStudio P8-2014 Modular 11 - SkyLight And Atmosphere
    RenderStudio P8-2014 Modular 12 - AfterGlow And Atmosphere 2

    Being designated as Poser in name and software compatability I'm thinking not? and with the last two saying they use Poser's "Depth Cue" that reinforces my belief, but thought I'd ask anyways.

    Thank you

    I believe all of those are light sets for Poser only but I can check. I own most of them because I do occasionally work in Poser.

  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772
    edited March 2017

    Ok, so I think the HDRs work. No idea how to make the backgrounds invisible yet. But the sunlight effect is very good. I loaded up the ones in Module 8 and got this (below.) Let me see if I can find the ones you're looking for and try them out.

    EDIT: Duh, nevermind, "Draw Dome" was on, even though no pic was in the Render settings. But let me check and make sure that's not just an Iray sun getting somehow rendered instead.

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  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772
    edited March 2017

    Ah, there was a sun that it defaulted to. I turned that off and got this. Let me try a few more and make sure it's not just defaulting to something else. 

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  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772
    edited March 2017

    No, I don't think they work. This is with the Render settings set to "Scene Only." Other lights show up if I add them to the scene, but not the HDRs. I think it works in a totally different way for Poser. Sorry! That first result was interesting, and it did look like it was pulling the HDR from somewhere, but who knows.

    EDIT: I checked the smoke and atmosphere effects, and they are all .mt5 files that only Poser opens. DAZ doesn't know what to do with them.

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  • GuyGenesisGuyGenesis Posts: 143

    Not a problem thank you for taking the time. I really do appreciate your efforts.

    By the way, nice renders, and no offense intended to the original promo artist, but yours has actually made me really consider buying Vega for V3

  • mtl1mtl1 Posts: 1,508
    edited March 2017

    Llynara: I bought those products a while back and I can confirm with you that the products don't work at all -- for Iray at least. Even converting the MT5 files didn't work because the channels it tries to use don't exist.

     

    edit: I was hoping to buy a few more RDNA DO PC+ items.. but it turns out I already own a lot of them blush

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  • AndySAndyS Posts: 1,447

    Thank's

    jakiblue said:

    They are the RDNA products that were bought out by DAZ. Hence, they are now DAZ Originals but were originally made/owned by RDNA. This link should filter all the RDNA stuff that is owned by DAZ: http://www.daz3d.com/runtimedna#index=0&filter_vendor=Daz Originals&filtered=1

    And remember, SOME products that are listed as "poser" CAN work in DS. You may have to play with the textures in the surfaces tab to get them looking good in 3delight/iray, but they will load and work correctly. If there are ones you are unsure of, asking here in the forums will have people helping you out.  

    AndyS said:

    What please is "DAZ Originals Runtime DNA"?
    I only found some products as co-work of DAZ Orignals and RDNA. But this is Poser-only. Doubtful how that works for DAZ 4.9.

    P.S.
    How can I filter for non-Poser in the shop?

     

    I already thought it was a combination of those both.
    But the naming in the sale's banner could have been more non-cryptic.
    Would be more customer friendly.

  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772
    edited March 2017

    Not a problem thank you for taking the time. I really do appreciate your efforts.

    By the way, nice renders, and no offense intended to the original promo artist, but yours has actually made me really consider buying Vega for V3

    Aww, thanks! I fell in love with Vega by looking at the promos. And I just realized that I don't think I have all of her face morphs loaded. Seems like I got a few errors when I loaded her. I think I'm missing a V3 head morph pack. So her features here are probably half default and half Vega. I'm working on Shahara now and got a lot of morph errors but she still looks great. Her skin is rendering nicely. She is something like 21 cents today, and has two other add ons- an aged skin and overlays to create your own makeups for her in Photoshop. So for around 60 cents, you can have a party with her! LOL

    EDIT: Shahara render and notes here (I don't want to clog up this thread with tons of renders)

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  • AndySAndyS Posts: 1,447
    jakiblue said:

    They are the RDNA products that were bought out by DAZ. Hence, they are now DAZ Originals but were originally made/owned by RDNA. This link should filter all the RDNA stuff that is owned by DAZ: http://www.daz3d.com/runtimedna#index=0&filter_vendor=Daz Originals&filtered=1

    And remember, SOME products that are listed as "poser" CAN work in DS. You may have to play with the textures in the surfaces tab to get them looking good in 3delight/iray, but they will load and work correctly. If there are ones you are unsure of, asking here in the forums will have people helping you out. 

    None of it is on my wishlist.

    But thank you anyhow.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    havsm said:

    Seems like this one is the highest on trending list Vanilla Sky SSS Stand Alone.

    Assuming I have the requirements, anyone know how difficult it would be to get her working in Daz? If it requires a lot of 'playing' in the surfaces tab, I'll probably have to skip it. 

    http://www.daz3d.com/vanilla-sky-v-four

    Am considering this; free with the item i'm looking at, which is itself, about $4. But I'm loathe (as always) to part with my cash.

  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772
    edited March 2017

    Her texture is incredible. I have not rendered her yet, but I remember oggling the RDNA promo pics when I first discovered their site back in 2015. She immediately went on the wishlist. Gorgeous work on the skin.

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited March 2017

    ... However doesn't show up as 90% off only 50%, or 100% with qualifying item.

    Edit: and now only full price.

    I can't be assed raising a ticket, so I'll pass.

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  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992
    edited March 2017

    If you keep adding one thing at a time and check out with just one thing, you can get products for like 25 cents.

    I'm not following this... 

    And I still don't exactly get the 3 different Vanilla Sky packages. 

    http://www.daz3d.com/vanilla-sky-sss-stand-alone

    Says it is Poser only... 

    http://www.daz3d.com/vanilla-sky-sss-ugrade

    Says it is for this package... 

    http://www.daz3d.com/vanilla-sky-v-four

    Which says it is for DS and Poser. 

    So, I guess the last package is what I really want if I'm not a DAZ user. The first one just adds SSS to the last one, and the middle one is Poser only. 

    Did I get that right? 

    You want the one for Poser and DS - it comes with both sets of shaders.  The other one is for Poser SSS only and won't work in DS.  Oops. I read it backwards.  Yes, get the SSS Stand-Alone if you aren't using DS.  The Upgrade is for people who bought the original set for Poser 8 (that's the Poser & DS one).

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  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992
    WandW said:

    I know Terradome 2 doesn't work in DS but do any of the sky packs for it work? http://www.daz3d.com/terradome-skies-and-light-bundle ends up being $1.47 with the discount so wondering.

     

    Keep in mind that this is for the original Terradome, not Terradome 2

    And each version is much larger than the last, so the textures don't really work due to the massive amount of stretching.

  • firewardenfirewarden Posts: 1,488
    edited March 2017

    I've been out and about all day, and just settled in to pick out a few RDNA items, and they're only giving 50% off. :( And there aren't any new items that I really want that I haven't bought already. Drat.

    Edit: Not much interesting; guess I've bought more RDNA than I thought. So not much lost.

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  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,398
    edited March 2017

    I've been out and about all day, and just settled in to pick out a few RDNA items, and they're only giving 50% off. :( And there aren't any new items that I really want that I haven't bought already. Drat.

    They are still working for me.

    But Note: Not all RDNA items work. They must be DAZ Originals as well as RDNA

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  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,807

    I've been out and about all day, and just settled in to pick out a few RDNA items, and they're only giving 50% off. :( And there aren't any new items that I really want that I haven't bought already. Drat.

    Edit: Not much interesting; guess I've bought more RDNA than I thought. So not much lost.

    Are you putting more than one RDNA item in the cart at a time? Just put one in and you should see the 90% - means you need to make multiple orders which is a bit irritating, but it worked for me.

  • firewardenfirewarden Posts: 1,488

    Thanks,  all. I figured out the problem. You can't have Ye Olde Wheelbarrows in the cart with the RDNA items unless you're adding a new item for the 100% off. If you want just the RDNA item at 90%, Ye Olde Wheelbarrows cannot be in there; the RDNA item has to be alone. That may have been discussed already.

  • donovancolbertdonovancolbert Posts: 1,421

    @nicstt

    Just put it into you cart, then view your cart, and if the price is wrong, hit F5. 

    It should refresh and apply the discount. 



     

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 12,017
    Llynara said:

    Ooh, if you do some, feel free to post in my art thread. The more, the merrier! It's fun to dig up the old stuff and play with it. Kind of like Christmas in July or something.

    On converting- Iray does a pretty good job converting them automatically but sometimes they need a little tweaking (other times a lot!) I do a test render with no extra shaders, and then put Uber over it. I really like DA Iray Shaders for Leather and Cloth. There's a preset to throw the Uber on, and I just use that because I'm lazy, LOL. It solves most problems without having to shade anything. I did that on the Princess of Atlantis and the Blue Moods Dress and Sandals.

    If it looks really bad still, I'll play with the DA presets first, then go through my other shaders until I find what works. I'm doing that now with an M3 set that looks dreadful in Iray. But the lines of the clothing are really neat, and that's what I look at when I buy the old things- is the style unique, interesting? Is it worth fiddling with? Most of the time it is.

    For there rest- I use OOT shaders for hair, and NGS Anagensis 2 for skin. I picked up some old hair and skins, so those should be fun to play with too.

    Anagenessis 2 is really amazing for getting older skins to look decent. Such a good product, IMO. 

  • donovancolbertdonovancolbert Posts: 1,421

    I just applied it to Scott 6... and yeah... wow. When I first bought it, I was kinda "meh, this seems like another one of those things that isn't going to be very useful." I was wrong. 

    I wish Headshop Oneclick was as much of a pleasant surprise. 

  • mtl1mtl1 Posts: 1,508

    Llynara, do you have any tricks for fitting older V3 content? I've been using the export-import-OBJ method, but perhaps you know of a better shortcut to avoid mesh distortions :)

  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772

    I am still experimenting and learning as I go. There are a surprising amount of fitting morphs in the clothing, but you have to look for them in the sub menus of the outfits. Most of them are extra bones. Some things just fit weird. Or only on one thigh or shoulder when they should go on two. I have no idea how diferent the material zones are. So I've got a barbarian outfit on a G3M and he only has one thigh band and one shoulder paldron. I turned them both off and got this (attached.) The textures are a mess but the outfit itself it pretty neat. It's Northar for M3.

    I also tried fitting Dark Mage to a Genesis and then a V7 and had trouble with posing, but only on one piece of the costume. Unforunately, it's the coolest piece! Rough draft attached below.

    Someone mentioned that you can fit V3 stuff to V4, that there's some kind of clone or something. I haven't tried that method yet. 

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  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992

    Here's V4 Horizon with some really old hair - Radiant Jaguar (actually 2 sets since it's pretty thin).  Everything has had Iray shaders applied - V4 Horizon went through V3Digitimes Iray Convertor for Generation 4 and the hair has IDG Iray Hair Essentials.  I'm pretty happy with it.  Next up, is to get all the Syyd Raven morphs I've got transferred to G2F or G3F.  Not sure if I'll go all the way to G3F.  I'm not very fond of all the geoshell stuff you have to do to get the skins to look right.  And I need to find the V4 Ultra Aging Morphs and see what happens.

     

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  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,398
    edited March 2017
    Llynara said:

    I am still experimenting and learning as I go. There are a surprising amount of fitting morphs in the clothing, but you have to look for them in the sub menus of the outfits. Most of them are extra bones. Some things just fit weird. Or only on one thigh or shoulder when they should go on two. I have no idea how diferent the material zones are. So I've got a barbarian outfit on a G3M and he only has one thigh band and one shoulder paldron. I turned them both off and got this (attached.) The textures are a mess but the outfit itself it pretty neat. It's Northar for M3.

    I also tried fitting Dark Mage to a Genesis and then a V7 and had trouble with posing, but only on one piece of the costume. Unforunately, it's the coolest piece! Rough draft attached below.

    Someone mentioned that you can fit V3 stuff to V4, that there's some kind of clone or something. I haven't tried that method yet. 

    Have  you tried Cross Dresser from EvilInnocence yet? For $10 you can get a V4 license that lets you fit clothing from all supported figures (including V3) to V4 and for another $10 you can get a M4 license. I bought the all license bundle last December when it was on sale for $25 but I haven't tried it yet

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  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772
    edited March 2017

    Oh, that looks really good! I have Horizon but haven't used it yet (story of my life!) The texture looks great. I wonder if there are any shaders for random gray strands of hair to make a character look somewhat older, but not totally gray or silver. I guess postwork + hair strand brushes would work for now. 

    Can wait to see what you do with the morphs. I bought up the rest of them today. They look very versatile.

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  • NathNath Posts: 2,990
    Llynara said:

    I am still experimenting and learning as I go. There are a surprising amount of fitting morphs in the clothing, but you have to look for them in the sub menus of the outfits. Most of them are extra bones. Some things just fit weird. Or only on one thigh or shoulder when they should go on two. I have no idea how diferent the material zones are. So I've got a barbarian outfit on a G3M and he only has one thigh band and one shoulder paldron. I turned them both off and got this (attached.) The textures are a mess but the outfit itself it pretty neat. It's Northar for M3.

    I also tried fitting Dark Mage to a Genesis and then a V7 and had trouble with posing, but only on one piece of the costume. Unforunately, it's the coolest piece! Rough draft attached below.

    Someone mentioned that you can fit V3 stuff to V4, that there's some kind of clone or something. I haven't tried that method yet. 

    Ah, the infamous "Not There" armour, yes :-) Yikes, I remember getting that when it came out...

  • So I have this 'just for you' coupon code for March Madness, and I try to buy the Space Slayer Bundle. It shows up as neither a New item or a PC+ item but the cart still denies me the coupon. Tried dropping that and adding one of the items from the bundle. Still doesn't take it. So... what is the arcane thing that gets it to take the coupon code?

  • donovancolbertdonovancolbert Posts: 1,421

    Cross Dresser was one of my first content purchases. I've had hit and miss results with it where I've used it. Basically, if something can't be autofit between the generations, there are some weird geometry things going on that are probably going to give Cross Dresser fits, too, from what I've seen. I very rarely use it.

    ​But, I have transferred some items and had them work. Enough that it is worth the price. Especially if you got the license bundle that cheap. |

    ​@Sandman_Max Are you using Horizon in DAZ? I just loaded her up, and while I can see there is a face morph and a great set of skin maps, it looks weird on Victoria 4.2s default body. There are no body aging morphs included with the Horizon content, right?

    ​I just realized I picked up the Ultra Aging morphs but they're Poser morphs. *sigh*... I always forget to check at least one item that turns out to be Poser content in these sales.

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