Comparing Feathered Wings for All and Epic Wings

Did anyone who picked up Feathered Wings for All have Epic Wings for Genesis too and can do a side by side shot?  TIA!

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  • StormlyghtStormlyght Posts: 666
    edited March 2017

    Did anyone who picked up Feathered Wings for All have Epic Wings for Genesis too and can do a side by side shot?  TIA!

    Hi,

    I have both. I'll do a render for you. My laptop is a bit slow...so it may take me until later this evening to post. I'll start with rendering an Iray version.

    The nice thing about Feathered Wings for All is if you decide you want to use Iray instead of 3DL you don't have to do a whole lot with the materials. Rendering Epic Wings in Iray, you have to adjust the materials. I generally run the Iray Uber shader first, apply the manual N.G.S. Anagennesis script, and then change the cutout opacity. 

    Trish

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  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,076
    edited March 2017

    well I have both but still use 3Delight ,so here they are I only moved Epic Wings above 3DU's FeatheredWings

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  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,755
    edited March 2017

    Here is a very quick and fuzzy iRay render with Feathered Wings for All on the left and some quickly made iray shader for Epic wings on the right.  My own feeling is that they are both nice with Feathered  Wings being slightly more anatomical and Epic wings more sculptural.  I do like that Feathered wings has iRay shaders.

     

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  • dreamfarmerdreamfarmer Posts: 2,128
    edited March 2017

    Just to cause trouble: a couple weeks ago, that other site came out with Armisael Wings. Also extremely nice and quite distinct, with a number of interesting textures.

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  • riftwitchriftwitch Posts: 1,439
    The product is in my cart, and I'll be purchazing in a few minutes, but computer issues are going to keep me from downloading or renderings for a while. I have Epic Wings, and I really like them but it'll be nice to have another option. One nice thing about the older product is RawArt's texture expansion for it. Hopefully thei set will get some texture addons, too. It looks like it has more marerial zones than Epic Wings, but I'll have to wait to find out. One thing I've never managed to make work with Epic Wings is apply a shaxer to them while keeping the underlying texture in place so the feathers still look like feathsrs. Maybe this set will let me get the result I'm trying for.
  • SummerhorseSummerhorse Posts: 684

    I love RawArt's texture pack for Epic Wings- and they render beautifully in Iray- right out of the box.

    Downloading Feathered wings right now, I 'm really excited to see what can be done with all those mat zones!

  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191

    Thanks for the pictures everyone.  I did, in fact, get the Feathered Wings for All this evening.  I appreciate all of the pictures and if anyone was still working on a render go ahead and post it.  Would love to see more renders.  I'll be playing with the wings myself this weekend.  I do have both the Epic Wings and the expansion.  Still, after seeing the renders here and one another friend did, I think having these as an option is going to be a good idea. 

    @Dreamfarmer  I had not seen those wings yet.  Thanks for pointing them out.  

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,306

    The ones at Rendo are handsome, but they are morphed rather than rigged. There are quite a few morphs, though.

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 6,063

    There is another wing pack coming out soon that does have a similar expansion that I had for the epic wings, which will work in both 3dl and iray

     

  • SaiyanessSaiyaness Posts: 715
    RawArt said:

    There is another wing pack coming out soon that does have a similar expansion that I had for the epic wings, which will work in both 3dl and iray

     

    Ooh! I was hoping you'd do an expansion!! Any sneak peeks? :o

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 6,063
    Saiyaness said:
    RawArt said:

    There is another wing pack coming out soon that does have a similar expansion that I had for the epic wings, which will work in both 3dl and iray

     

    Ooh! I was hoping you'd do an expansion!! Any sneak peeks? :o

    It is not an expansion for this set....and there is a preview on my rawart facebook page, which I dont know if I am allowed to link here...but if you look for "RawArt3d" on facebook, it is not hard to find

  • SPACECHIMPSPACECHIMP Posts: 212

    Thanks for the comparison pics this has really helped me to buy Feathered wings

  • StormlyghtStormlyght Posts: 666
    edited March 2017

    Hi,

    It looks like there's been several who have posted a comparison. I'll post mine as well. I did not render either image to completion but I think they are a good representation of each wingset. I do like both sets and will continue to use Epic Wings depending on the project but I'm excited about Feathered Wings for All as an addition to my runtime. 

    Trish

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  • For those who have the Feathered Wings, can they be scaled up so they are larger in relation to the figure's body? They look great (love the detial) but way too small for my tastes. I'm guessing I could parent the wings and then scale them. But I still love Arki's Malaik Wings...it'd be hard for me to replace them as my go-to wings.

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,076
    tykey said:

    For those who have the Feathered Wings, can they be scaled up so they are larger in relation to the figure's body? They look great (love the detial) but way too small for my tastes. I'm guessing I could parent the wings and then scale them. But I still love Arki's Malaik Wings...it'd be hard for me to replace them as my go-to wings.

    Yes they can be scaled ,up and there is a wing size dial

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,321
    edited March 2017

    I, too, am hooked on Malaik Wings. Here's a render I had available with the wing armour, both 30% off for Bonus Buyers. But you can never have too many wings.

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  • dreamfarmerdreamfarmer Posts: 2,128

    Aha morphed vs rigged. Hard to identify that when you mostly work via sliders anyhow but I knew there was something. 

     

    I want the feathered wings bad but having just picked up Armisael I feel I shouldn't spend my entire budget on one bit of add-on anatomy...,

  • GreybroGreybro Posts: 2,599
    RawArt said:
    Saiyaness said:
    RawArt said:

    There is another wing pack coming out soon that does have a similar expansion that I had for the epic wings, which will work in both 3dl and iray

     

    Ooh! I was hoping you'd do an expansion!! Any sneak peeks? :o

    It is not an expansion for this set....and there is a preview on my rawart facebook page, which I dont know if I am allowed to link here...but if you look for "RawArt3d" on facebook, it is not hard to find

    Actually, that preview is why I've held off for yours to come out. Fire wings! 

  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191
    RawArt said:
    Saiyaness said:
    RawArt said:

    There is another wing pack coming out soon that does have a similar expansion that I had for the epic wings, which will work in both 3dl and iray

     

    Ooh! I was hoping you'd do an expansion!! Any sneak peeks? :o

    It is not an expansion for this set....and there is a preview on my rawart facebook page, which I dont know if I am allowed to link here...but if you look for "RawArt3d" on facebook, it is not hard to find

    @RawArt  Just took a look at the preview on your Facebook page.  Nice.  So, it's an new expansion for Epic Wings?  It looks good!  Will definitely have to pick that up, too.  Love the fire ones!

     

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,995

    I have 3 sneak peak images of RawArt's wings over at my DeviantART gallery (link in my sig) and I am going to post the larger 1920x1080 renders today tomorrow and monday

  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191
    Mattymanx said:

    I have 3 sneak peak images of RawArt's wings over at my DeviantART gallery (link in my sig) and I am going to post the larger 1920x1080 renders today tomorrow and monday

    I went and looked.  They all look great! 

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited March 2017

    Well, the Feathered Wings are certainly a nice addition to my Wings collection!

    Full list of items used in render: http://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/316566/

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  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191

    Oh, that looks great, Bee!  I love it, a robot with wings! :)

  • Midnight_storiesMidnight_stories Posts: 4,112
    edited March 2017

    Aha morphed vs rigged. Hard to identify that when you mostly work via sliders anyhow but I knew there was something. 

     

    I want the feathered wings bad but having just picked up Armisael I feel I shouldn't spend my entire budget on one bit of add-on anatomy...,

    Well there are 2 type of morphs linear and animated. Linear are more for stick on wings as they move in a straight line no good for animation and only really have a start point and a end point so in between can be a bit ugly. While animated morphs lot harder to do will give you a very smooth motion and can bend the wings better.

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  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,995
    Mattymanx said:

    I have 3 sneak peak images of RawArt's wings over at my DeviantART gallery (link in my sig) and I am going to post the larger 1920x1080 renders today tomorrow and monday

    I went and looked.  They all look great! 

    THank you very much.

     

    Full size of the Angelic Beauty 3 was just added for a fuller look at the wings.

  • dreamfarmerdreamfarmer Posts: 2,128

     

    Well there are 2 type of morphs linear and animated. Linear are more for stick on wings as they move in a straight line no good for animation and only really have a start point and a end point so in between can be a bit ugly. While animated morphs lot harder to do will give you a very smooth motion and can bend the wings better.

    Huh. Having poked at the Armisael wings more, I THINK they're the latter sort, or at least they look pretty good at all stages of a morph and the negative side of each morph is used as much as the positive one. I'm attaching a few more renders and a screenshot including the shaping list. I do wonder why the artist chose morphing instead of rigged, though.

    Checking out the Rawart wings... I think I'm going to go ahead and just commit to having ALL the feathered wings. After all, different species need different looks, right?


     

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  • SassyWenchSassyWench Posts: 602
    RawArt said:

    There is another wing pack coming out soon that does have a similar expansion that I had for the epic wings, which will work in both 3dl and iray

     

    That's what I'm waiting for :)

  • RawArt said:
    Saiyaness said:
    RawArt said:

    There is another wing pack coming out soon that does have a similar expansion that I had for the epic wings, which will work in both 3dl and iray

     

    Ooh! I was hoping you'd do an expansion!! Any sneak peeks? :o

    It is not an expansion for this set....and there is a preview on my rawart facebook page, which I dont know if I am allowed to link here...but if you look for "RawArt3d" on facebook, it is not hard to find

    @RawArt  Just took a look at the preview on your Facebook page.  Nice.  So, it's an new expansion for Epic Wings?  It looks good!  Will definitely have to pick that up, too.  Love the fire

    actually it's a brand new set of wings Raw is making/made

  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191
    RawArt said:
    Saiyaness said:
    RawArt said:

    There is another wing pack coming out soon that does have a similar expansion that I had for the epic wings, which will work in both 3dl and iray

     

    Ooh! I was hoping you'd do an expansion!! Any sneak peeks? :o

    It is not an expansion for this set....and there is a preview on my rawart facebook page, which I dont know if I am allowed to link here...but if you look for "RawArt3d" on facebook, it is not hard to find

    @RawArt  Just took a look at the preview on your Facebook page.  Nice.  So, it's an new expansion for Epic Wings?  It looks good!  Will definitely have to pick that up, too.  Love the fire

    actually it's a brand new set of wings Raw is making/made

    Even better!  :)

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,711

    More wings is good. Kinda boring if an angel scene everyone has really similar or identical wings in it :)

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