1080 Ti confirmed 11GB $699

bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990
edited March 2017 in The Commons
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  • and most likely very expensive (well, just less than the titan).

    are you ready to sale an kidney? cheeky

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990

    Less expensive than a Titan X at least. Absolutely, that kidney has to go :D

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,850

    ...best reports i have heard is the 1080Ti will have 10 GB GDDR5X memory, not 12 GB as some sources are claiming.  Doesn't make sense that Nvidia would compete against their own Titan X (P) unless the latter is to be upgraded to 16 GB which would make it worth 1,200$ (when Nvidia upgraded the Quadro M6000 to 24 GB, the price remained the same)

    I remember when just about everyone was saying that the 980Ti would offer 8 GB and there would be a 970Ti as well. Yeah, only three days to go.

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990

    Yeah probably, although what's different this time is that they positioned the Titan X as none-gaming and dropped the Geforce tag. Who knows if that changes anything, probably not.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,850
    edited February 2017

    ...so far, only the price as it went from 999$ to 1,200 and hasn't been farmed out to thrid party developers like EVGA, Gigabite, or MSI.

    Meanwhile the 16 GB Quadro P5000 is the same price as the old 8 GB M5000 was, doesn't make sense sometimes.

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  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990
    edited March 2017

    So NVIDIA surprises with 11GB VRAM and faster than Titan X for 699 :)

    And launching next week.

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  • hphoenixhphoenix Posts: 1,335

    3580 CUDA cores, 11GB GDDR5X memory, in-silicon framebuffer compression/decompression, tiled framebuffer rendering...... For $699 USD retail.  That's about 35% more CUDA cores, and 3GB more VRAM.

    Wow.  Wonder how long it will take the third-party card manufacturers to get their versions out?  Just trying to imagine the ASUS 1080Ti ROG STRIX card.......in SLI.....

    Almost makes me wish I'd waited to buy.....

     

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990

    SLI, probably a wee bit overkill? Not to mention it's just too problematic. But 2 to render in Iray... that should be awewsome.

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990

    Oh and also, 1080 is getting 100 bucks cheaper.

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679

    Thank you VEGA!

    You know full well the 1080ti would not be like this without the threat of Vega. With Ryzen looking like it actually might be pretty good, Nvidia realizes that AMD is serious right now. Without Vega, this card first of all would not be launching this soon, and it would almost certainly be pushing $1000. And it certainly would not have 11gb VRAM. That 11 is such an oddball number, that has to be some last minute compromise. Its launching for the same price as the Founder's 1080 did last year. Think about that, people.

    This changes everything. I might just gun for this baby after all. Lots a lot of sweet, sweet CUDA cores. And we know how great 11 is a number.

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990

    Yeah I'm not convinced it was because of Vega entirely, which never seems to come out, but if it was I'm glad either way. They explained the 11GB with a chart of some game running at 5k HDR needing that much. 

  • hphoenixhphoenix Posts: 1,335

    Yeah I'm not convinced it was because of Vega entirely, which never seems to come out, but if it was I'm glad either way. They explained the 11GB with a chart of some game running at 5k HDR needing that much. 

    LOL.  The whole 11GB for running 5k games was a clear bit of MarketingSpeak.  If they gave it 12GB, there is NO MARKET for the current TitanX.  Poof.  At least by keeping it at 11GB, they can point out that the TitanX still has the most memory for a consumer card.  There was NO reason to stop it at 11GB except for that.....1GB more would have been childs play.

    The WarDogs2 5k HDR needing 11GB depends on a LOT of settings.  With EVERYTHING maxxed, it probably does require close to 11GB of VRAM.  To me, that says the game's developers aren't optimizing well.  Nobody with sense writes a game that REQUIRES that much VRAM (i.e., nothing could play it except a TitanX for another week)  You can always run it at lower rez (4k seems reasonable....that only needs about 7GB VRAM)  or reduce some texture detail sizes or reduce AA/AO settings.  Suddenly, that 11GB 'limit' doesn't make sense......except to keep it LESS than a TitanX.

     

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990

    Yeah, you're probably right. Competiton is a good thing in any case.

  • posecastposecast Posts: 386

    We are the big winners here...as amd has no equivalent in iray, nvidia, scared by vega, has released a game changing video card at an amazing price, and we reap the benefits. The power of the 1080ti will allow most daz users to forego multi-gpu systems, with all the associated costs, i.e. premium motherboards, high end cooling, high end cases. This week has shown us that we can build an amd ryzen system with a 1700x, 32gb ram, and a 1080 ti for around 1500$ that demolishes a prebuilt $5000 workstation.

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990

    Yeah I''ll upgrade my 980 Ti now for sure. Only question is wether to wait for third party cards.

  • posecastposecast Posts: 386

    Yeah I''ll upgrade my 980 Ti now for sure. Only question is wether to wait for third party cards.

    Same boat, except I'm going with the founders edition because I'm not a gamer.

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990
    posecast said:

    Yeah I''ll upgrade my 980 Ti now for sure. Only question is wether to wait for third party cards.

    Same boat, except I'm going with the founders edition because I'm not a gamer.

    Don't have to be a gamer to consider better cooling/possibly higher overclock? What I actually like about the stock cooler is it blows air out the back where I have another uncommon cooler sucking air out the expansion slots. Could work out quite well.

  • posecastposecast Posts: 386

    Don't have to be a gamer to consider better cooling/possibly higher overclock? What I actually like about the stock cooler is it blows air out the back where I have another uncommon cooler sucking air out the expansion slots. Could work out quite well.

    That's true but in my mind, overclocking boosts cost of the system quite a bit, and might reduce the lifespan, something that i dont want to do if i am buying $1400 of video cards! I do admit that the super clocked cards normally last longer when not actually overclocked because they are built to beefier. That said, the livestream said that you could get a 15-20% overclock with the founders edition. Not bad.

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990

    A lot of third party cards are overclocked by default, so you don't have to do it yourself. I usually do it anyway, it's free performance and I've never had anything die because of it. There's warranty too. These cards today have a lot of safeguards in term of heat and voltage, really not much to worry about. Not like you're rendering 24/7 either.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,000
    posecast said:

    This week has shown us that we can build an amd ryzen system with a 1700x, 32gb ram, and a 1080 ti for around 1500$ that demolishes a prebuilt $5000 workstation.

    Tempting since I am looking to build/buy a new system (as I have been for the last three years) - but I will wait for feedback from thee arly adopters, especially with Ryzen as it is a new device ("never buy version 1"). Not an issue to the same extent with the 1080Ti since it's an incremental change to an existing platform.

  • posecastposecast Posts: 386

    Tempting since I am looking to build/buy a new system (as I have been for the last three years) - but I will wait for feedback from thee arly adopters, especially with Ryzen as it is a new device ("never buy version 1"). Not an issue to the same extent with the 1080Ti since it's an incremental change to an existing platform.

    Do it. Do it. Do it. All accounts are that Ryzen is going to be amazing. I am hoping for some reviews soon. It would be nice to see someone custom build a ryzen pc for daz, just to see what kind of cpu rendering you get from that $500 1800x.

  • BruganBrugan Posts: 365

    JUST got a 1050ti so I'm going to wait a bit and see what MSI and other 3rd parties will do with this, but the prospect of going from 4gb to 11gb has me salivating.

    HOWEVER, there is chatter that they will also release a 1060ti with 10gb (some reports say 6gb) but my bet is a 1070ti 10gb in time for christmas, time will tell.

    Even on my 1050ti I'm happy with the render times, I just want more room for stuff indecision

  • CypherFOXCypherFOX Posts: 3,401

    Greetings,

    Hrm; I'd like this...a lot.  But can I run it in a system with my existing 1080, and use both for Iray?

    (The optimal thing for me would be to put the 1080Ti as my 'desktop' video card, so the extra 3GB of video memory is available for the OS UI, and then run with 8GB as my scene limit.)

    --  Morgan

     

  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 2,077

    Oh, it's probably worth the price. However my meager, fumbling hobby doesn't merit such an expense.

  • posecastposecast Posts: 386

    Oh, it's probably worth the price. However my meager, fumbling hobby doesn't merit such an expense.

    Think about it like this: the next time you want to get a new computer, get a 1080 ti instead. It will feel like a new computer, and cost a lot less. Give yourself some time, Ron, and you will be able to rationalize it ;)

  • Silver DolphinSilver Dolphin Posts: 1,638

    What we should be doing and going on ebay and craigslist and looking at the people who want to upgrade to new cards and buy their old 1070's and 1080's.  I just purchased my 3rd 1070 at way below retail for a founders edtion that runs great (found it on craigslist and bargined with owner for cash). Cooling on Founders edtion cards suck but that is what aftermarket coolers are good for, and if you do alot of Iray >>get some water cooling for your video cards<<. 8gb of video ram is enough for me and is within my budget. Heck my 6gb 780's are doing backup to my 1070's and they work great together.

  • Stryder87Stryder87 Posts: 899

    I was checking it out on Nvidia's site... and don't see anything where it says it's Iray compatible.  Did I miss it?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,850
    hphoenix said:

    3580 CUDA cores, 11GB GDDR5X memory, in-silicon framebuffer compression/decompression, tiled framebuffer rendering...... For $699 USD retail.  That's about 35% more CUDA cores, and 3GB more VRAM.

    Wow.  Wonder how long it will take the third-party card manufacturers to get their versions out?  Just trying to imagine the ASUS 1080Ti ROG STRIX card.......in SLI.....

    Almost makes me wish I'd waited to buy.....

     

    ...that's an odd amount memory. 

    They should have given it 12 GB/3580 cores, and bumped the Titan-X to 16 GB and 3840 cores.  They pretty much made their Titan-X (P) a dinosaur speed wise with the core count anyway (they even admit i the 1080Ti is faster on their site so who's going to shell out 500$ more for just an extra 1 GB of VRAM and 4 more cores?).

    Crikey in the Quadro line they doubled the memory from the M5000's 8 GB to 16 GB on the P5000, upped the core count by 512 and kept the price the same. Why not upgrade to Titan-X as I mention above? Would make it more worth that 1,200$ price tag, the exclusivity of only being able to get it through Nvida, and only being able to purchase two cards.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,850

    ...now if they do release a 1070Ti with 10 GB and 2,400 cores at an average 450$ - 470$ price, that would be perfect.

    If not well then I might just end up with a second hand 1080 if the price is right.

  • boisselazonboisselazon Posts: 458

    1080 is almost already at this price range

     

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