Daz3d in AWS

Im not new to Daz, but new to AWS and having issues, trying to figure out just how to use the available resources on AWS p2 instances (using the 8 GPU option, p2.8Xlarge) - I subscribed to the 2012 windows server with Nvidia drivers AMI. -

At first I started a standard 2012 r2 instance, installed Daz, and it wouldnt run due to incompatiable video card, open cl 1.3 needed.. ok, so I thought I need drivers.. nope drivers didnt do it. I wasted about 2 hours on this instance doing nothing and was charged for it.

Next step, found an AMI with Nvidia drivers already installed, sweet! ok, so I launched it, installed Daz, had the K80 drivers good to go.. NOPE, Daz wouldnt launch due to incompatable open cl again. - didnt waste time on this one, I termininated it right away.

 

My question is what is the best way to set this up? Ive seen people post here with results and such, but cant find anything explaining how to set this up.

 

Any help is appreciated.

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  • OpenCL or OpenGL?

  • Open CL 1.3 needed 

     

    Ill get a screen grab next time I launch it, but its going to cost me about 50 cents :P

  • Wonder if its the RDP session - maybe use teamviewer? still would like to know if anyone has successfully set this up

  • Ok, I was wrong, its GL - must have been my monitor.. still posing the question as to how to get this to work.. sorry for so many posts.

    Tried with Teamviewer and M$ RDP, same issue.

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  • I've never tried using a remote machine but I do recall, from previous threads, that getting the right OpenGL support is at best hard. Try searching the forum (using Google with site:www.daz3d.com/forums as one of the terms) for soemthing like remote access or remote desktop.

  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914

    You lost me with a lot of the abbrieviations LOL (I need to catch up on the times) but video cards have an opengl limit usually listed in the card's specs. So no amount of updating drivers will fix that.

    Your card must be pretty darn old to not support a remote session, fortunately you should be able to find a newer card than the one you have that will for very little $$

    I use both teamviewer and now splashtop (used logmein when it was free) for working on Daz projects while at work (shhh, don't tell my boss!)

    I like teamviewer for the fact that the image it displays is nearly always clear and easy to see, but you absolutely must use keyboard shortcuts to rotate the camera as trying to click and drag the cube causes it to whip around dramatically. Oh, and don't try to use slider bars that have no limits, the slightest movement of the mouse and your setting jumps into the 1,000s

    Which is why I now use splashtop. You can actually use the camera cube and slider bars easily. Unfortunately it's display is not as good as teamviewers and while rendering you will find your window extremely pixelated as the splashtop streamer tries to compete for resources with the render engine.

  • Kaotkbliss, what Im trying to do is run Daz on an AMI (Amazon Web Instance, in AWS, Amazon Web Services) - They have an image that has 8 K80 Nvidia Tesla GPU's, 4 3.2 Ghz CPU's and 100+ GB of Ram, I used a windows 2012r2 (server is all they use) image, was able to get everything installed, but just couldnt launch Daz due to the OpenGL issue. - its almost as if daz is not seeing the K2 Card. I did try Teamviewer as that has worked in the past (at home at least) 

    My final goal is to get Daz installed on the remote computer; do my scenes on my computer and upload to my remote computer to render on the bad a$$ hardware.

  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914

    Ahhh, I see.

    I'm imagining Amazon would have their web services broken into virtual machines for each subscription. In which case, 3d excellerated graphics are non existant in fact, there really is no video card as it's all emulated inside the VM, although some VM's do emulate open GL to an extent (can't remember which version but it wasn't very high)

    But then this is all guessing on how Amazon is working their setup. They may not be using VMs at all and I could be completely wrong.

  • Trying to setup the Iray Server (Trial) as well on one of my "free" amazon machines, but not having any luck with that either :( I guess my avatar reflects my mood about now

     

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    Kaotkbliss, what Im trying to do is run Daz on an AMI (Amazon Web Instance, in AWS, Amazon Web Services) - They have an image that has 8 K80 Nvidia Tesla GPU's, 4 3.2 Ghz CPU's and 100+ GB of Ram, I used a windows 2012r2 (server is all they use) image, was able to get everything installed, but just couldnt launch Daz due to the OpenGL issue. - its almost as if daz is not seeing the K2 Card. I did try Teamviewer as that has worked in the past (at home at least) 

    My final goal is to get Daz installed on the remote computer; do my scenes on my computer and upload to my remote computer to render on the bad a$$ hardware.

    Tesla based cards wont work with Daz Studio 4.9.3.x and newer; NVIDIA Iray 2016.3 requires Fermi or newer (per https://developer.nvidia.com/iray-sdk).

  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914

    or that could be the problem lol

  • Ok, I was wrong, its GL - must have been my monitor.. still posing the question as to how to get this to work.. sorry for so many posts.

    Tried with Teamviewer and M$ RDP, same issue.

    Although it won't help here, because of the Tesla cards, the suggestion is to use TightVNC ( http://www.tightvnc.com/ ).

  • Ok, I was wrong, its GL - must have been my monitor.. still posing the question as to how to get this to work.. sorry for so many posts.

    Tried with Teamviewer and M$ RDP, same issue.

    Although it won't help here, because of the Tesla cards, the suggestion is to use TightVNC ( http://www.tightvnc.com/ ).

    Ibwas successfully able to install and render a quick scene on aws, but using g2 instance (nvidia grid) it was ok, but my gtx980 ti seems faster, still researching on setting up the iray server on the cloud.. getting some config issues. I have 87 days to figure it out
  • Chohole said:

    Tesla based cards wont work with Daz Studio 4.9.3.x and newer; NVIDIA Iray 2016.3 requires Fermi or newer (per https://developer.nvidia.com/iray-sdk).

    Tesla cards are still being made, and there are Kepler-based Teslas available used. It's my understanding that Kepler came after Fermi, then Maxwell? If that's the case, Kepler Teslas (K-series i.e. K10, K20) should work?

  • HaslorHaslor Posts: 408

    Ok, I was wrong, its GL - must have been my monitor.. still posing the question as to how to get this to work.. sorry for so many posts.

    Tried with Teamviewer and M$ RDP, same issue.

    I have use DAZ Studio with Remote Desktop and it works as long as I start it on the host system before connecting the remote session.

    if I try it after I start the session, I get the same failure notice.

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