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Half strength Toon Generations?

DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885
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The new Toon Generations are wonderful and very tempting... but I don't do a lot that's that heavily toon stylized.

Can someone show me how they look at, say 50%? Or mixed 25% toon Generation, 25% Aiko/Kenji 7?  Is mixing like that even possible?  I know they're brand new, but the few renders I have seen have them at full strength.

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,846

    If you look at the promos there is an image with a mix

  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885
    edited December 2016

    Ah, I missed that.  Although mixed with Star is still a bit more toon than I usually go.  Still, good to know that mixing is possible. :)

    Thank you.

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  • thenotoriousjedthenotoriousjed Posts: 397

    I'm working on a render now. They integrate very well from what I've tried so far. The new toon generations have an aging dial which adds a lot of versatility as well. Will post when I get it done.

  • thenotoriousjedthenotoriousjed Posts: 397
    edited December 2016

    Here is the toon gen 2 male and female dialed in at 50% and aging dial at 50%. The male has 25% George added. He'a also wearing a toon gen 1 outfit so the clones work well too. The female has Aiko added at 50%. No other tweaks. I used the 3delight skin that came with each and the render was done in 3delight.

    2nd pic the female has 50% Bethany along with bethany skin and the male is dialed back to 25% on toon gen and added 50% Michael with Michael Skin. Still 3delight (my computer doesn't play well with Iray)

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  • murgatroyd314murgatroyd314 Posts: 1,568

    There's a catch: the age dial doesn't cover its full range when ToonGen2 isn't at full strength. It may be possible to work around by manually adjusting the hidden morphs it controls, but my early tests suggest that's more complicated than it should be.

  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885
    thenotoriousjed said:

    Here is the toon gen 2 male and female dialed in at 50% and aging dial at 50%. The male has 25% George added. He'a also wearing a toon gen 1 outfit so the clones work well too. The female has Aiko added at 50%. No other tweaks. I used the 3delight skin that came with each and the render was done in 3delight.

    2nd pic the female has 50% Bethany along with bethany skin and the male is dialed back to 25% on toon gen and added 50% Michael with Michael Skin. Still 3delight (my computer doesn't play well with Iray)

    Cool.  Thank you.  They just got a lot more tempting... :)  (I may see if I can hold out until Saturday, when my mad money refreshes, just in case there are any one day only things between now and then.)

  • GreybroGreybro Posts: 2,602

    Not a Toon guy but these do look very nice and the fact that they can use G3 clothing makes them quite versatile indeed!

  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,983
    Greybro said:

    Not a Toon guy but these do look very nice and the fact that they can use G3 clothing makes them quite versatile indeed!

    That would have been my next question.  So the answer is yes, they can wear G3 clothing?

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,981
    ALLIEKATBLUE said:
    Greybro said:

    Not a Toon guy but these do look very nice and the fact that they can use G3 clothing makes them quite versatile indeed!

    That would have been my next question.  So the answer is yes, they can wear G3 clothing?

    Yeah, it looks like it: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/136871/post-your-toon-generations-2-renders

    :)

    And from the product description:

    • Toon Generations (original) Clone shape for Genesis 3 Male enables original Toon Generations content to be loaded and automatically converted to fit the new Genesis 3 Male figure
    • Toon Generations (original) Clone shape for Genesis 3 Female enables original Toon Generations content to be loaded and automatically converted to fit the new Genesis 3 Female figure

    So because they have the clones they can wear G3M and G3F clothing. :) 

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533
    divamakeup said:
    ALLIEKATBLUE said:
    Greybro said:

    Not a Toon guy but these do look very nice and the fact that they can use G3 clothing makes them quite versatile indeed!

    That would have been my next question.  So the answer is yes, they can wear G3 clothing?

    Yeah, it looks like it: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/136871/post-your-toon-generations-2-renders

    :)

    And from the product description:

    • Toon Generations (original) Clone shape for Genesis 3 Male enables original Toon Generations content to be loaded and automatically converted to fit the new Genesis 3 Male figure
    • Toon Generations (original) Clone shape for Genesis 3 Female enables original Toon Generations content to be loaded and automatically converted to fit the new Genesis 3 Female figure

    So because they have the clones they can wear G3M and G3F clothing. :) 

    The clones are to fit the clothes for these toons

    http://www.daz3d.com/toon-generations-mega-bundle

    As the Toon 2 are morphs of G3 they don't need clones to autofit clothing made for G3 figures and G3 come with the opposite gender clone.

     

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,981
    scorpio said:
    divamakeup said:
    ALLIEKATBLUE said:
    Greybro said:

    Not a Toon guy but these do look very nice and the fact that they can use G3 clothing makes them quite versatile indeed!

    That would have been my next question.  So the answer is yes, they can wear G3 clothing?

    Yeah, it looks like it: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/136871/post-your-toon-generations-2-renders

    :)

    And from the product description:

    • Toon Generations (original) Clone shape for Genesis 3 Male enables original Toon Generations content to be loaded and automatically converted to fit the new Genesis 3 Male figure
    • Toon Generations (original) Clone shape for Genesis 3 Female enables original Toon Generations content to be loaded and automatically converted to fit the new Genesis 3 Female figure

    So because they have the clones they can wear G3M and G3F clothing. :) 

    The clones are to fit the clothes for these toons

    http://www.daz3d.com/toon-generations-mega-bundle

    As the Toon 2 are morphs of G3 they don't need clones to autofit clothing made for G3 figures and G3 come with the opposite gender clone.

     

    Ah I see. Thanks for the clarification. 

  • KinichKinich Posts: 925

    Okay here you go, First image is basic default G3F with Toon Gen 2 at 25% & Aiko 7 at 25% (I don't have Kenji 7 at the moment so I can't help with that mix).

    The second image is the same but with the Toon Gen 2 Age slider set to 30 (up from the default 10).

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  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885
    Kinich said:

    Okay here you go, First image is basic default G3F with Toon Gen 2 at 25% & Aiko 7 at 25% (I don't have Kenji 7 at the moment so I can't help with that mix).

    The second image is the same but with the Toon Gen 2 Age slider set to 30 (up from the default 10).

    Thanks.  That's about what I was expecting.

    (The sale should still be good come Saturday....)

  • thenotoriousjedthenotoriousjed Posts: 397
    edited December 2016

    For a little fun I dialed in Mr. Bear from Joequick at 50% with 50% toon generatons 2. It's an interesting mix and character. I bought the mega bundle yesterday and plan to add the Family shapes today since Amazon paid me for my book sales from last month. Can play with shapes even more then.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,781
    DaWaterRat said:
    thenotoriousjed said:

    Here is the toon gen 2 male and female dialed in at 50% and aging dial at 50%. The male has 25% George added. He'a also wearing a toon gen 1 outfit so the clones work well too. The female has Aiko added at 50%. No other tweaks. I used the 3delight skin that came with each and the render was done in 3delight.

    2nd pic the female has 50% Bethany along with bethany skin and the male is dialed back to 25% on toon gen and added 50% Michael with Michael Skin. Still 3delight (my computer doesn't play well with Iray)

    Cool.  Thank you.  They just got a lot more tempting... :)  (I may see if I can hold out until Saturday, when my mad money refreshes, just in case there are any one day only things between now and then.)

    This is very good. I saw George that George was dialed in as he's frequently posted in renders in the forums and gallery but Bethany I had to go to the DAZ Store and it's a good caricature too.

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,109
    edited December 2016

    Okay here is ToonGeneration2 at 50%,Kenji at 50% and age set at 28

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,781
    carrie58 said:

    Okay here is ToonGeneration2 at 50%,Kenji at 50% and age set at 28

    super. I am now going to install & give it a whirl.

  • EdsArtEdsArt Posts: 14

    My toons only load as G3's, any ideas?

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,109
    EdsArt said:

    My toons only load as G3's, any ideas?

    okay  so how are you loading them??do you load  G3 first?? have you checked the shaping dials ?? Can you send a screen shot ??

  • EdsArtEdsArt Posts: 14
    edited December 2016

    I load the character but it appears as G3. I looked at the shaping dial and all are set to zero apart the too dial which is at 100%. 

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  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,109

    hmmm that's weird have you tried loading G3 and then dialing in the toon?

  • EdsArtEdsArt Posts: 14

    Yes, but nothing changes. I'm now reloading Daz3d.

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,109

    well if that doesn't work I'd try re-installing the toon generation2, do you manuelly install or use connect?

  • EdsArtEdsArt Posts: 14

    I usually use DIM.

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,109

    hmmm I think we need somebody smarter then me ,have you had any issues with other characters doing this ??if not I'd say start a thread asking for help I'm pretty sure Richard could help or Mike more then I seem to be

  • EdsArtEdsArt Posts: 14

    No problems with any other mesh... Thanks for trying Carrie. xx

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,322

    There does seem to be something flaky going on. I install everything manually. No DIM, no Connect. Nor do I use smart content or any of the DAZ-initiated programs which are supposed to make things easier, but mean having to learn a whole new system. I've got a system that works, I'm satisfied with it.

    I rarely use 'Toons, although I've purchased several. So, I load one of the Little One characters. I get a box claiming that there are things missing, with grayscale icons showing the Little Ones, asking me if I want DAZ to install them. They aren't missing. I installed them myself. I installed them properly. I tell it to skip that step, and then the figure loads, no problem.

    I load one of the Toom Generation 2 figures. Same thing. "Elements are missing. Shall we install them?" Skip. Figure loads, no problem. 

    Now, I don't *know* whether this is something specific to recent 3DU characters. But it could be. Or it could be yet another attempt by the program to force people to use DAZ Connect. I later reopened the scene file and got the missing elements alert nagging me about a specific hair -- which wasn't even used in the scene. 

    No idea why the G3 base would load and not take the morphs when dialed, though.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,781
    JOdel said:

    There does seem to be something flaky going on. I install everything manually. No DIM, no Connect. Nor do I use smart content or any of the DAZ-initiated programs which are supposed to make things easier, but mean having to learn a whole new system. I've got a system that works, I'm satisfied with it.

    I rarely use 'Toons, although I've purchased several. So, I load one of the Little One characters. I get a box claiming that there are things missing, with grayscale icons showing the Little Ones, asking me if I want DAZ to install them. They aren't missing. I installed them myself. I installed them properly. I tell it to skip that step, and then the figure loads, no problem.

    I load one of the Toom Generation 2 figures. Same thing. "Elements are missing. Shall we install them?" Skip. Figure loads, no problem. 

    Now, I don't *know* whether this is something specific to recent 3DU characters. But it could be. Or it could be yet another attempt by the program to force people to use DAZ Connect. I later reopened the scene file and got the missing elements alert nagging me about a specific hair -- which wasn't even used in the scene. 

    No idea why the G3 base would load and not take the morphs when dialed, though.

    That has nothing to do explicitly with DAZ Connect because I don't get such warnings and I have only installed the TG2 Mega Bundle with DIM. It could be some of the manual downloads for install are missing some sort of manifest or database entries that DAZ Studio is expecting to find but that is an issure to bring up to D|S support.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,781
    nonesuch00 said:
    JOdel said:

    There does seem to be something flaky going on. I install everything manually. No DIM, no Connect. Nor do I use smart content or any of the DAZ-initiated programs which are supposed to make things easier, but mean having to learn a whole new system. I've got a system that works, I'm satisfied with it.

    I rarely use 'Toons, although I've purchased several. So, I load one of the Little One characters. I get a box claiming that there are things missing, with grayscale icons showing the Little Ones, asking me if I want DAZ to install them. They aren't missing. I installed them myself. I installed them properly. I tell it to skip that step, and then the figure loads, no problem.

    I load one of the Toom Generation 2 figures. Same thing. "Elements are missing. Shall we install them?" Skip. Figure loads, no problem. 

    Now, I don't *know* whether this is something specific to recent 3DU characters. But it could be. Or it could be yet another attempt by the program to force people to use DAZ Connect. I later reopened the scene file and got the missing elements alert nagging me about a specific hair -- which wasn't even used in the scene. 

    No idea why the G3 base would load and not take the morphs when dialed, though.

    That has nothing to do explicitly with DAZ Connect because I don't get such warnings and I have only installed the TG2 Mega Bundle with DIM. It could be some of the manual downloads for install are missing some sort of manifest or database entries that DAZ Studio is expecting to find but that is an issure to bring up to D|S support.

    Further, it you installed with the DAZ Studio CMS dB wasn't running that could maybe cause problems.

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,109
    edited December 2016

    Well I wasn't sure and I always instal manuelly  and have had no problem which was why I asked about Connect (meant DIM ) confusalded winkBut Maybe there was an extra folder created or something and thank you nonesuch00 and Jodel

     

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