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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,084

    Yeah, anything really rigid like that, I prefer to try (desperately) to avoid autofitting.

    The real pain is belts, because they really need to fit just right and if they are anything complex autofit makes them look weird.

     

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001

    The discount has been fixed...

     

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,644
    Serene Night said:

    Here is Darius Sans mustache. It wasn't that hard to remove the mustache. I probably won't use the gold chain and watch again. Looks odd to me, but ohwell. I still may have to do a bit of touch up around the lips transition area.... But... Seriously DAZ should've done this. It is infinitely a doable option. Seems lazy not to make a beardless version.

    Great job, Serene Night! I think I'll try it too. I don't know why Daz is always adding face hair of some kind to Darius' face, and why they don't provide a clean shaven version. Maybe they don't want him to be too attractive... ;-) Darius 6 came with this five-o'clock-shadow; Darius 7 has a moustache... :-|

  • anikadanikad Posts: 1,919

    Has anyone found that Eliot hair takes a long time to render? I'm trying to work out what is wrong with my setup.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,287

    Have you read on http://www.daz3d.com/eliot-hair-for-genesis-3-male-s-female-s

    that this hair 'Base geometry ~47k quads, best used with SubD level 1 in Daz Studio 4.9+'

    Check the settings for it, before rendering.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,084

    anikad: In 3DL or Iray?

     

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited December 2016
    caravelle said:
    Serene Night said:

    Great job, Serene Night! I think I'll try it too. I don't know why Daz is always adding face hair of some kind to Darius' face, and why they don't provide a clean shaven version. Maybe they don't want him to be too attractive... ;-) Darius 6 came with this five-o'clock-shadow; Darius 7 has a moustache... :-|

    It took about 40 minutes. Best technique I found to handle the mustache removal was to first just color it out with a similar darius skin tone using a rough brush so it blends better. Once it is colored out, I grabbed pores and skin from the rest his face with similar look and value and rubbers stamped it over  with the same rough charcoal edge brush. I then put another layer with original mustachioed face and erased unnecessary masking preserving as much of the original texture as possible.

    Then sadly, you have to go into each of the maps and remove the stache as well. I made an error in one of them as his right lip has too much highlight. So I will have to go back and tone that down.

    I think I will aso go and remove the lip gloss which is a bit l glossy for me. What I do to do that is highlight the lip surface and past the texture of some less shiny part. Then go back and switch the maps to lips. I don't know why they do the high gloss on men's lips but it looks off to me.

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    anikad said:

    Has anyone found that Eliot hair takes a long time to render? I'm trying to work out what is wrong with my setup.

    I rendered the image of Darius about in about 15 minutes. I did find the lights I chose could not handle the hair transparency at the top of his head, so the tips of his hair had white all around which I had to remove in photoshop using a darken layer. 

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    mebbe he could play Tuvok, couple of vulcan eyebrows

     

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,970
    Serene Night said:
    I think I will aso go and remove the lip gloss which is a bit l glossy for me. What I do to do that is highlight the lip surface and past the texture of some less shiny part. Then go back and switch the maps to lips. I don't know why they do the high gloss on men's lips but it looks off to me.

    The easy way to do that for Darius 7 is to just copy the Face surface to the Lips surface. In his case, it's a a matter of settings and not maps.

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,644
    edited December 2016

    Thank you, Serene Night and vwrangler! I'll try both methods smiley

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  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,929
    edited December 2016

    " Morph away all you like, but there will sit Darius the individual character. As evidenced by:

    http://www.daz3d.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/1/11-daz3d_darius-7_.jpg";

    This Guy looks quite realistic in IRayyes

    While your point is taken  you must remember that when it comes to "Ethnic Characters" there is a strong preference
    ,in this  user base, for ones that are factory floor produced by Daz or the PA's
    Hence the "Attack of the clones"  result you are referencing.
    The same with older or "non idealized BMI" 
    (overweight ) characters.

    Look at how easily  user Seren night  dispensed with the Baked in Mustache issue that is potentially a deal breaking Catastrophe for some potential buyers.

    This of us who Say: "just give me realistic photo based skin maps and hundreds of face and Body morphs and I will make my own"
    We are part of an outlying rarified creative minority.cool

     

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  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992
    ALLIEKATBLUE said:
    AllenArt said:

    I have almost all the guys already, so no cheap pro packs for me, but I'm happy anyway. LOL. As for Monique and Darius looking a little older, that doesn't bother me one bit - I love it. In fact, I get kinda tired of the figures looking like a bunch of college kids TBH ;).

    I also have some samsil's hairs in my wishlist at Rendo. They look very well done.

    Laurie

    They are well done

     

    OMG!  I want all of those...

  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992
    Serene Night said:

    Here is Darius Sans mustache. It wasn't that hard to remove the mustache. I probably won't use the gold chain and watch again. Looks odd to me, but ohwell. I still may have to do a bit of touch up around the lips transition area.... But... Seriously DAZ should've done this. It is infinitely a doable option. Seems lazy not to make a beardless version.

     

    Dang!  Now I wish I'd gotten the pro bundle.  I was being cheap (since I got hit with the late night first-day discount pricing snafu).  But I love that hair and the gold-chain gives him a certain 1980's vibe. Or maybe it was the 70's?

  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992
    edited December 2016
    timmins.william said:

    Yeah, anything really rigid like that, I prefer to try (desperately) to avoid autofitting.

    The real pain is belts, because they really need to fit just right and if they are anything complex autofit makes them look weird.

     

    Hair is another one.  You lose all the movement morphs.  Much better to position and scale...

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  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772
    edited December 2016

    I missed this in the promo pics initially when he jumped into my cart. Interesting to see how Darius blends with the different shapes and yet very much retains his own personality and good looks: 

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited December 2016

    Here is the final of Darius beardless. 

    I contacted DAZ to see if they could provide an update to Darius sans mustache, or distribute these as a free update to those who might want them. I can't say they are 100% perfect, but the best I can do at present givien the available lip material.

    If you want to see it happen let DAZ know you want a beardless Darius and maybe they can alter the maps or let you have mine....  I don't know the legalities involved, but hopefully something can be worked out.

    Anyway, I think having a beardless option will allow the user to choose facial hair and de-age him a bit.

     

    darius.png
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  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772

    He looks great clean shaven. Thanks for doing that, and I sure hope they'll provide a beardless option, or at least allow sharing yours. Good job. smiley

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,239
    Llynara said:

    He looks great clean shaven. Thanks for doing that, and I sure hope they'll provide a beardless option, or at least allow sharing yours. Good job. smiley

    + 1

    I, too, hope that DAZ will facilitate a beardles option in one form or another.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,160
    edited December 2016
    Serene Night said:

    Here is the final of Darius beardless. 

    I contacted DAZ to see if they could provide an update to Darius sans mustache, or distribute these as a free update to those who might want them. I can't say they are 100% perfect, but the best I can do at present givien the available lip material.

    If you want to see it happen let DAZ know you want a beardless Darius and maybe they can alter the maps or let you have mine....  I don't know the legalities involved, but hopefully something can be worked out.

    Anyway, I think having a beardless option will allow the user to choose facial hair and de-age him a bit.

     

    Looks nice. I submitted a request for an updated material option without facial hair.

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,160

    I already got a response to my help request. They said that would be a feature request and I should post in the product suggestions forum, so I did.

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/135336/darius-7-without-facial-hair

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,160
    Serene Night said:

    Here is Darius Sans mustache. It wasn't that hard to remove the mustache. I probably won't use the gold chain and watch again. Looks odd to me, but ohwell. I still may have to do a bit of touch up around the lips transition area.... But... Seriously DAZ should've done this. It is infinitely a doable option. Seems lazy not to make a beardless version.

    OK, I think I know why that chain and watch look so bad. The surfaces have the emissive shader turned on. In fact, even the pants and shoes and belt have some emissive surfaces. I believe the 3Delight materials were just converted with the Iray Uber shader and called "Iray Materials". I'm submitting a help request.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    Oh that's too bad. Thanks for submitting the bug report. 

    Hopefully we'll get a beardless/mustache-less Darius soon.

  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 2,029

    I'm totally and pleasantly surprised! DAZ actually managed to release Darius 7 shortly after Monique 7?! Usually it's months or years before the male characters follow the females!

  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996
    edited December 2016
    Ron Knights said:

    I'm totally and pleasantly surprised! DAZ actually managed to release Darius 7 shortly after Monique 7?! Usually it's months or years before the male characters follow the females!

    They seem to have taken a break for the PA/PC+ sales, but every other month all year long was dual releases of paired figures each month (excepting Izabella and Sunny.)

    There's plenty to criticise Daz about, but their Genesis 3 release schedule being too slow particularly with revived male attention is not one of them.

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  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    barbult said:

    OK, I think I know why that chain and watch look so bad. The surfaces have the emissive shader turned on. In fact, even the pants and shoes and belt have some emissive surfaces. I believe the 3Delight materials were just converted with the Iray Uber shader and called "Iray Materials".

    I've noticed this and other weirdnesses before now when converting from 3Delight to Iray. I wonder if it would be possible for DAZ to make the Iray Uber shader a bit more "intelligent" without breaking random other stuff?

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,084

    There is no way to know if someone is using ambient to make an item that glows or because the person is just faking some ambient color to make it look ok.

     

  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 2,029

    Oh believe me, I'm not being critical. 

  • SotoSoto Posts: 1,450

    If you want it, I created a LIE and some presets using merchant resources and 3D.SK references. No piece of Darius 7 is included, this is safe to distribute. No 3Delight, no bump or specular maps, and certainly not an elegant PNG cutout, but works decent enough for me. I also included a less glossy lips material preset.

    Someone wants to try it? I don`t want to post it without a double check first.


  • FusionLAFusionLA Posts: 249
    Hellboy said:

    If you want it, I created a LIE and some presets using merchant resources and 3D.SK references. No piece of Darius 7 is included, this is safe to distribute. No 3Delight, no bump or specular maps, and certainly not an elegant PNG cutout, but works decent enough for me. I also included a less glossy lips material preset.

    Someone wants to try it? I don`t want to post it without a double check first.

     

    Good Job...

    These should of been the type of options he was actually released with!

     

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