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Collective3d · December 2016

Llynara said:

Here is my 100 year old farmhouse- my "Not-So-Little-House-on-the-Prairie," built in 1916. I think it was an altered Sears and Roebuck kit. It has 5 bedrooms instead of the standard four. The woodwork is identical to the American Foursquare kits sold around that time. It took a while to find one in good condition on some land for a good price. This one needs some love because of age but is in terrific shape. It sits on a stone foundation and 5 acres. Enough to play and do the hobby farm thing. The chicken coop was built from an old design to match the house and the detached garage. Nearby is an old brick oven that was part of some kind of summer kitchen at one time. The little people below were not included. I had to "render" them myself!

That's amazing. Have you had to jack it up, or is the beam in the basement still solid? The house I live in was built sometime in the 1920s from, as far as I can tell, an Aladdin kit. The center of the house is about 5 inches lower than the rest, with the attendant cracks in the wet plaster walls and ceiling, and most of the doors don't close and latch unless you lift them up as you close them. I don't own the house, and the landlord has replaced most of the original posts in the basement with jacks but never really raised it back up, so the old wooden beam is pretty warped.

Llynara · December 2016

Actually, I haven't had to. Everything is solid. The porch is sagging a bit, because the front brick pillars were set on the ground. The back part is hooked to the house and is fine. Eventually it will have to be fixed. The home was in the same family for over 80 years, then the last owners bought it. They had a lot of stories about it. I was told that the people building the foundation were told to "take their time" and get it right. That foundation is solid. Nothing is sagging, which was a nice surprise. Many of the other homes I saw had that issue. This has the typical old house problems- needs new siding, wiring, etc. I bought it "as is" and had a ton of inspections done on it. There were no huge deal breakers. Even the slate roof is holding up well. The septic is an old tiled system that still works perfectly, and the well has never run dry. It's a diamond in the rough.

Collective3d · December 2016

Yeah, that's a great house. What state is it in?

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Liana_1796711 · December 2016

Collective3d said:

nonesuch00 said:

Well there is actually a wide variety of architectures that could be considered turn of the century. In the state where I live it is common to see old limestone fences like is on that TV show 'Last of the Summer Wine' but I think that sort of set might of been made already in the DAZ Store and those are probably really much older in origin than turn of the century. In my state the only date from 1800 onwards and mostly after 1840. Maybe beach towns in Florida because of the tourism boom with railways or Maine or lots and lots of places you see turn of the century styles still yet. No sure how many early 1900th photos are available of backwater places like Florida then though. It will be interesting to see what you windup making.

When you're talking about American turn of the century to WWII style architecture, you're primarily looking at Victorian, Queen Anne revival, American Arts and Crafts, and the like. Cape Cods, Victorians with turrets, foursquares ("prairie boxes"), California Bungalows, and an odd assortment of other styles co-opted by the Arts and Crafts movement, like various colonial designs. You also have cross-gabled houses, cape colonials, etc. Interiors tend to be either very formal (Queen Anne or Victorian) or very plain and workman-like (arts and crafts). Plain flat baseboards, possibly chair rails with or without wainscot, picture rails, possibly crown moldings. Bare wood floors, sometimes hardwood, sometimes pine. Hand-turned posts. Slate roofs, wood clapboard or scalloped shingle siding. Arts and crafts style uses built-in shelves, cabinets, and benches a lot (see Modern Home Deluxe and Movie Sets Haunted Interior).

A lot of late 19th Century to WWII architecture is still around, even private residences. The house I live in now is just about 100 years old and it's in a regular suburb among 1950s tract houses. The Arts and Crafts style is also going through a bit of a revival right now, in place of the McMansion style houses of the early 2000s. A lot of the home renovation shows are also focusing on rehabilitating these old kit houses (although usually knocking down the interior walls to create more open, modern floorplans, which I think is a disgrace).

So yeah, I'm kind of interested in seeing what I wind up making, too :)

I love the Arts n crafts style in houses and furniture, but then I dig antiques anyways. It is usually unique, sturdy, durable, etc unlike most of our stuff now a days. :)

nonesuch00 · December 2016

Ah, so that's what a foursquare is. We have a few of those in my neck of the woods too, we just call them farmhouses. That's more the style of the farm house I lived in as a kid.

Maybe one day they will rebuild such houses with carbon fibre and fireproof plastic composites (eg Gorilla Glass is really plastic) so they withstand fire, tornados, and termites and such...

Collective3d · December 2016

nonesuch00 said:

Ah, so that's what a foursquare is. We have a few of those in my neck of the woods too, we just call them farmhouses. That's more the style of the farm house I lived in as a kid.

Yeah, they're also called "prairie boxes" because they tend to be near perfect cubes. Those, and a style of house similar to the Sears "Winona" model were extremely popular all over, the latter primarily in urban areas. They were often done in brick and had a second (and sometimes third) story added. But that left-hand/right-hand front to back layout was practically ubiquitous. My grandparents on both sides lived in houses with that basic floor plan, a friend when I was in high school lived in one, and the house I live in now has that same basic plan as the Winona. Sears, Aladdin, and Monkey Ward all sold houses based on that.

Collective3d · December 2016

Liana said:

Collective3d said:

nonesuch00 said:

Well there is actually a wide variety of architectures that could be considered turn of the century. In the state where I live it is common to see old limestone fences like is on that TV show 'Last of the Summer Wine' but I think that sort of set might of been made already in the DAZ Store and those are probably really much older in origin than turn of the century. In my state the only date from 1800 onwards and mostly after 1840. Maybe beach towns in Florida because of the tourism boom with railways or Maine or lots and lots of places you see turn of the century styles still yet. No sure how many early 1900th photos are available of backwater places like Florida then though. It will be interesting to see what you windup making.

When you're talking about American turn of the century to WWII style architecture, you're primarily looking at Victorian, Queen Anne revival, American Arts and Crafts, and the like. Cape Cods, Victorians with turrets, foursquares ("prairie boxes"), California Bungalows, and an odd assortment of other styles co-opted by the Arts and Crafts movement, like various colonial designs. You also have cross-gabled houses, cape colonials, etc. Interiors tend to be either very formal (Queen Anne or Victorian) or very plain and workman-like (arts and crafts). Plain flat baseboards, possibly chair rails with or without wainscot, picture rails, possibly crown moldings. Bare wood floors, sometimes hardwood, sometimes pine. Hand-turned posts. Slate roofs, wood clapboard or scalloped shingle siding. Arts and crafts style uses built-in shelves, cabinets, and benches a lot (see Modern Home Deluxe and Movie Sets Haunted Interior).

A lot of late 19th Century to WWII architecture is still around, even private residences. The house I live in now is just about 100 years old and it's in a regular suburb among 1950s tract houses. The Arts and Crafts style is also going through a bit of a revival right now, in place of the McMansion style houses of the early 2000s. A lot of the home renovation shows are also focusing on rehabilitating these old kit houses (although usually knocking down the interior walls to create more open, modern floorplans, which I think is a disgrace).

So yeah, I'm kind of interested in seeing what I wind up making, too :)

I love the Arts n crafts style in houses and furniture, but then I dig antiques anyways. It is usually unique, sturdy, durable, etc unlike most of our stuff now a days. :)

The Arts and Crafts style came out of Victorian style of the late 1800s and tended to be very workmanlike and less baroque in its style. Where the Victorian tended towards a lot of clawed feet and elaborate scrollwork, the Arts and Crafts was simpler and more "honest" in the way it was built. Pleasantly functional. The house designs were intended to represent a stripped-down version of the Victorian without the added servant's quarters and entrance, since American men were going to work in factories and the women were running the house, rather than everybody with a house being rich and having servants.

Llynara · December 2016

Collective3d said:

Yeah, that's a great house. What state is it in?

Also, I'm getting lots of great data here from the poll. Thanks to everyone who's cast a vote!

The great state of Illinois- Land of Lincoln, baby! I'm south west of Chicago, in central Illinois. Close enough to drive up there occasionally, far enough away to enjoy really being out in the country. I live close to Starved Rock State Park. Not your typical cornfields. It's a gorgeous area with hills, rivers, sandstone canyons and fantastic views. Lots of tourists come out to the park to hike, and you can hear just about every language there. It's pretty neat. Unfortunately, this area is a bit economically depressed as well. I guess every area has its challenges.

I believe this Sears and Roebucks kit is the one used for my house, modified with a fifth bedroom. They made the other rooms smaller to fit it in. The closets are small too. The attic is huge and unfinished. Some day I'd love to have an art studio up there overlooking the fields. In my first Midwest book, Crazy in the Heart, I put the heroine in a dilapidated version of this house and then ran it over with a tornado. The hero is an itinerant carpenter who ends up rebuilding it better than before, adding a wrap around porch, which comes in very handy in the finale of the book. The house has character and is definitely a character in the series. I love me some good architecture!

L'Adair · December 2016

Voted.

I think my first 3DCollective model was the farmhouse. I found the rooms really cramped, though, when trying to render inside. Then I saw in a thread that you modeled it after the house you were living in!

I grew up in an old house. (My dad said if we were going to treat the house like a barn, he was going to put us in one! Come on, what did you expect with 4 kids? lol...) Anyway, it was six bedrooms, two stories, and an old fixer-upper when they bought the place in 1959!) don't remember the rooms being all that small, though some of the downstairs rooms might have been. I moved out some 35 years ago, so I admit my memories could be faulty... On the other hand, my dad remarried many years later, and moved into his new wife's house, in an old logging town, (Powers, Oregon,) in the Siskiyou Mountains. A really old one-bedroom bungalow with a floor plan that would fit in my living room with room to spare! That place was tiny. I've seen studio apartments with more square footage.

Chohole · December 2016

L'Adair said:

Voted.

I think my first 3DCollective model was the farmhouse. I found the rooms really cramped, though, when trying to render inside. Then I saw in a thread that you modeled it after the house you were living in!

I grew up in an old house. (My dad said if we were going to treat the house like a barn, he was going to put us in one! Come on, what did you expect with 4 kids? lol...) Anyway, it was six bedrooms, two stories, and an old fixer-upper when they bought the place in 1959!) don't remember the rooms being all that small, though some of the downstairs rooms might have been. I moved out some 35 years ago, so I admit my memories could be faulty... On the other hand, my dad remarried many years later, and moved into his new wife's house, in an old logging town, (Powers, Oregon,) in the Siskiyou Mountains. A really old one-bedroom bungalow with a floor plan that would fit in my living room with room to spare! That place was tiny. I've seen studio apartments with more square footage.

I live in a place like that. The ground floor of this house would originally have been 2 rooms, has been modernised to knock the 2 into one open plan room and an extension built on the back to house a kichen and bathroom. And families lived in these, back in the day.

Collective3d · December 2016

L'Adair said:

Voted.

I think my first 3DCollective model was the farmhouse. I found the rooms really cramped, though, when trying to render inside. Then I saw in a thread that you modeled it after the house you were living in!

I grew up in an old house. (My dad said if we were going to treat the house like a barn, he was going to put us in one! Come on, what did you expect with 4 kids? lol...) Anyway, it was six bedrooms, two stories, and an old fixer-upper when they bought the place in 1959!) don't remember the rooms being all that small, though some of the downstairs rooms might have been. I moved out some 35 years ago, so I admit my memories could be faulty... On the other hand, my dad remarried many years later, and moved into his new wife's house, in an old logging town, (Powers, Oregon,) in the Siskiyou Mountains. A really old one-bedroom bungalow with a floor plan that would fit in my living room with room to spare! That place was tiny. I've seen studio apartments with more square footage.

Yeah, rooms were definitely that small back in the day.

Good thing about the Farmhouse set is that all the walls can be removed to get the camera in. Trickiest part for me to shoot was the bathroom.

L'Adair · December 2016

Collective3d said:

L'Adair said:

Voted.

I think my first 3DCollective model was the farmhouse. I found the rooms really cramped, though, when trying to render inside. Then I saw in a thread that you modeled it after the house you were living in!

I grew up in an old house. (My dad said if we were going to treat the house like a barn, he was going to put us in one! Come on, what did you expect with 4 kids? lol...) Anyway, it was six bedrooms, two stories, and an old fixer-upper when they bought the place in 1959!) don't remember the rooms being all that small, though some of the downstairs rooms might have been. I moved out some 35 years ago, so I admit my memories could be faulty... On the other hand, my dad remarried many years later, and moved into his new wife's house, in an old logging town, (Powers, Oregon,) in the Siskiyou Mountains. A really old one-bedroom bungalow with a floor plan that would fit in my living room with room to spare! That place was tiny. I've seen studio apartments with more square footage.

Yeah, rooms were definitely that small back in the day.

Good thing about the Farmhouse set is that all the walls can be removed to get the camera in. Trickiest part for me to shoot was the bathroom.

I "tore down" the wall between the living room and dining room in this render: The Proposal. (Hard to believe it's been almost 2 years since I did that image. I was just starting to get comfortable with lighting in 3DL... then Iray came along a month or so later. I'm still not much good with lighting 3DL renders! lol)

L'Adair · December 2016

Chohole said:

L'Adair said:

Voted.

I think my first 3DCollective model was the farmhouse. I found the rooms really cramped, though, when trying to render inside. Then I saw in a thread that you modeled it after the house you were living in!

I grew up in an old house. (My dad said if we were going to treat the house like a barn, he was going to put us in one! Come on, what did you expect with 4 kids? lol...) Anyway, it was six bedrooms, two stories, and an old fixer-upper when they bought the place in 1959!) don't remember the rooms being all that small, though some of the downstairs rooms might have been. I moved out some 35 years ago, so I admit my memories could be faulty... On the other hand, my dad remarried many years later, and moved into his new wife's house, in an old logging town, (Powers, Oregon,) in the Siskiyou Mountains. A really old one-bedroom bungalow with a floor plan that would fit in my living room with room to spare! That place was tiny. I've seen studio apartments with more square footage.

I live in a place like that. The ground floor of this house would originally have been 2 rooms, has been modernised to knock the 2 into one open plan room and an extension built on the back to house a kichen and bathroom. And families lived in these, back in the day.

Being able to spread out, here in the States, we've mostly come to accept large rooms and large houses as the norm. Especially those who are "younger" and never had to live in an old house, or in an area with a lot of older houses. I was driving back from the East Coast one year and made a point of visiting Mount Rushmore and Crazy Horse Memorial, and I made an unscheduled stop in a tourist attraction called 1880 Town. That was back in 1998, and they had a lot of old buildings from the 1880s and beyond. It was hard to fathom how people could move around in such small buildings, let alone live in them. If you ever get the chance, I can recommend stopping there. It's a real eye-opener for those of us use to buildings from the 1950s and later.

Collective3d · December 2016

Before we moved in here, we looked at a place in Mt. Clemens, Michigan that had been built in 1870. It looked like a place Jesse James could have lived in. Not much more than a shotgun house with a wrought iron spiral staircase, about two feet wide, going to a second floor divided into three spaces, also shotgun style. In the kitchen was a pull-up hatch in the floor and a ladder going down to a dirt cellar. Outside was a bulkhead door in the foundation. Had lots of charm, but no way my fat ass was going up and down that wobbly staircase in the middle of the night to use the bathroom. The house was located a block or so away from the historical train station where the first telegraph message was sent (to or from, I disremember).

Collective3d · December 2016

L'Adair said:

Collective3d said:

L'Adair said:

Voted.

I think my first 3DCollective model was the farmhouse. I found the rooms really cramped, though, when trying to render inside. Then I saw in a thread that you modeled it after the house you were living in!

I grew up in an old house. (My dad said if we were going to treat the house like a barn, he was going to put us in one! Come on, what did you expect with 4 kids? lol...) Anyway, it was six bedrooms, two stories, and an old fixer-upper when they bought the place in 1959!) don't remember the rooms being all that small, though some of the downstairs rooms might have been. I moved out some 35 years ago, so I admit my memories could be faulty... On the other hand, my dad remarried many years later, and moved into his new wife's house, in an old logging town, (Powers, Oregon,) in the Siskiyou Mountains. A really old one-bedroom bungalow with a floor plan that would fit in my living room with room to spare! That place was tiny. I've seen studio apartments with more square footage.

Yeah, rooms were definitely that small back in the day.

Good thing about the Farmhouse set is that all the walls can be removed to get the camera in. Trickiest part for me to shoot was the bathroom.

I "tore down" the wall between the living room and dining room in this render: The Proposal. (Hard to believe it's been almost 2 years since I did that image. I was just starting to get comfortable with lighting in 3DL... then Iray came along a month or so later. I'm still not much good with lighting 3DL renders! lol)

Lighting is so much easier and more accurate with Iray. Having come to Daz from 3ds Max Mental Ray, Iray was extremely welcome. It's basically what I grew up with.

nonesuch00 · December 2016

Chohole said:

L'Adair said:

Voted.

I think my first 3DCollective model was the farmhouse. I found the rooms really cramped, though, when trying to render inside. Then I saw in a thread that you modeled it after the house you were living in!

I grew up in an old house. (My dad said if we were going to treat the house like a barn, he was going to put us in one! Come on, what did you expect with 4 kids? lol...) Anyway, it was six bedrooms, two stories, and an old fixer-upper when they bought the place in 1959!) don't remember the rooms being all that small, though some of the downstairs rooms might have been. I moved out some 35 years ago, so I admit my memories could be faulty... On the other hand, my dad remarried many years later, and moved into his new wife's house, in an old logging town, (Powers, Oregon,) in the Siskiyou Mountains. A really old one-bedroom bungalow with a floor plan that would fit in my living room with room to spare! That place was tiny. I've seen studio apartments with more square footage.

I live in a place like that. The ground floor of this house would originally have been 2 rooms, has been modernised to knock the 2 into one open plan room and an extension built on the back to house a kichen and bathroom. And families lived in these, back in the day.

That looks like a typical Wexford house. i'm sure all over the isles if you go to the right towns.

nonesuch00 · December 2016

Ah, Jesse James, well my parents and aunts and uncles mosty grew up in similar tar paper shotgun shacks propped up on wood pillar posts on the sides of mountains in the Appalachians. Used to scare the tar out of me visiting when we still lived in downtown Chicago (see that The Fugitive movie with Harrison Ford to get a classic look at that neighborhood - I recognized it even 35 years after moving away as a 7 year old - polygon density is a bit much for DAZ though and as city neighborhoods go just so-so interest although I remember giant size tar-paper 2 story duplexes on my street) granny and the folk that still lived back in the mountains cause I'd be looking out the car window thinking all those car I saw pushed over the sides of the mountains were involved in horribly wrecks, but they weren't.

House I live in now is just a 50 year old plain-jane clapboard ranch style house that you could mistake for an anchored trailer at 1st glance. If I were to guess the person that built it worked at a lumberyard and get very high quality defect wood free from his job, it looks totally amateurish but it's holding together well. LOL. It's only 950 sqft but the basement could double that but I am just going to clean if up and use it as a greenhouse room The thing I like about the house though is the land, which I've filled with fruit & nut trees, shrubs, and brambles and has everything from deer to racoon to bird visiting all the time.

At any rate, I don't think a product with a bunch of tar-paper shotgun shacks or my plainjane clapboard ranch would be a big sellers.

fred9803 · December 2016

I'd really like to see more quality contemporary shop interiors - shoe shop, pharmacy, bookshop, newsagent, supermarket, fruit/veg shop etc.

Chohole · December 2016

nonesuch00 said:

Chohole said:

L'Adair said:

Voted.

I think my first 3DCollective model was the farmhouse. I found the rooms really cramped, though, when trying to render inside. Then I saw in a thread that you modeled it after the house you were living in!

I grew up in an old house. (My dad said if we were going to treat the house like a barn, he was going to put us in one! Come on, what did you expect with 4 kids? lol...) Anyway, it was six bedrooms, two stories, and an old fixer-upper when they bought the place in 1959!) don't remember the rooms being all that small, though some of the downstairs rooms might have been. I moved out some 35 years ago, so I admit my memories could be faulty... On the other hand, my dad remarried many years later, and moved into his new wife's house, in an old logging town, (Powers, Oregon,) in the Siskiyou Mountains. A really old one-bedroom bungalow with a floor plan that would fit in my living room with room to spare! That place was tiny. I've seen studio apartments with more square footage.

I live in a place like that. The ground floor of this house would originally have been 2 rooms, has been modernised to knock the 2 into one open plan room and an extension built on the back to house a kichen and bathroom. And families lived in these, back in the day.

That looks like a typical Wexford house. i'm sure all over the isles if you go to the right towns.

Typical working mans cottage from a mining area in the South Wales Valleys. The rendering is a later addition, but has to be a particular sort of render material (bit like Iray and 3DL, really) to allow the movement needed in a stone built house. They needed to do something with all the stone and rock they excavated to get to the coal and iron. Plus of course the miners needed homes. This area was associated with the iron works.

Novica · December 2016

Forget the farmhouse chatter, let's talk about those awesome, adorable KIDS!!! OMGosh, they are precious!

BTW, I voted. I'm an exterior-needy person and modern.

nonesuch00 · December 2016

I just googled South Beach at night images & it is gorgeous, if something like that could be intergrated with the exsited South Beach Art Deco products, woowoo.

Llynara · December 2016

Novica said:

Forget the farmhouse chatter, let's talk about those awesome, adorable KIDS!!! OMGosh, they are precious!

BTW, I voted. I'm an exterior-needy person and modern.

Thanks, Novica. They turned out pretty good. No morph dials needed! Though I wish they wouldn't grow so fast! The six year old has a good eye for art and will actually critique my renders. He often wants to make everyone smile in the pictures. He's such a sweetheart. The toddler has decided pants are optional and wants to climb everything. At least the house is sturdy enough to survive him! I'm not sure I will!

grinch2901 · December 2016

Collective3d said:

nonesuch00 said:

Ah, so that's what a foursquare is. We have a few of those in my neck of the woods too, we just call them farmhouses. That's more the style of the farm house I lived in as a kid.

Yeah, they're also called "prairie boxes" because they tend to be near perfect cubes. Those, and a style of house similar to the Sears "Winona" model were extremely popular all over, the latter primarily in urban areas. They were often done in brick and had a second (and sometimes third) story added. But that left-hand/right-hand front to back layout was practically ubiquitous. My grandparents on both sides lived in houses with that basic floor plan, a friend when I was in high school lived in one, and the house I live in now has that same basic plan as the Winona. Sears, Aladdin, and Monkey Ward all sold houses based on that.

Foursquare because as you say, they have a square footprint but also because the ground and upper floors are divided into four equally sized rooms, more or less. Downstairs you get a parlor, a dining room, a kitchen, and a sitting room or the like (many times the parlor and the sitting room would be combined into one large room in the front with the kitchen and dining in the back). Then upstairs you have a few bedrooms and a bathroom. I lived in one for a decade, the thing about it was it was built around 1920 and the beams were, I think made of chestnut. Chestnut was available in massive quantities on the east coast before the blight and it was insect resistant and I guess just better. Anyway, the beams were exposed in the basement but they were so hard that it was almost impossible to hammer a nail into them. It was like trying to sink a nail into concrete, it would do more damage to my shoulder than to the beam. That was a cheap house built quickly but by God it was built solidly!

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