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Daz Horse 2 "Pro" bundle - carts but no harness?

Silent WinterSilent Winter Posts: 3,872
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Taking advantage of 'buy new item" (got DA's excellent Brick+Mortar shaders) and save on animals, I picked up the Horse 2 Pro Bundle (50% off plus PC+ discount made it a good deal).

But now I'm looking at some of it in more detail and there doesn't seem to be a harness to attach the horse to either of the carts that come with it (still downloading so I may be wrong).  So I've got these lovely breeds of horses, and lovely carts, but no way to put them together? 

In what way is this 'Pro' ? - Discuss...

(With Millennium 1 Horse, there was a harness that came with the Royal Carriages, I believe - got that one, would like a similar thing for Horse 2 - needn't be perfect, just something I can fake in a still render and look believable)

(Oh, and if there is such a harness available somewhere, I'd appreciate a nod in the right direction :) )

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited November 2016

    The lack of good tack and working reigns has long been an issue with horse 2 I am afraid. I don know of any place this is sold.

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  • Silent WinterSilent Winter Posts: 3,872
    edited November 2016
    Serene Night said:

    The lack of good tack and working reigns has long been an issue with horse 2 I am afraid. I don know of any place this is sold.

    The reins don't work?  Oh dear.

    I'll see what it's like once I've installed it and had a go - but if it can't be used for what I'm intending (a simple 'horse and rider'  ,  ' horse being led' and 'horse and cart'), then I might have to return it :( (or learn to model and rig something that'll work ;) )

    Thanks for the input.

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  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,576

    The http://www.daz3d.com/i13-greek-chariot comes with a proper harness for the driver, and this is designed for DAZ Horse 2. In theory the same harness could be used for other carts, it contains a number of morphs to help you pose it.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    I'll note that with VWD or similar, you can make reins 'dynamic'

     

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,063
    edited November 2016

    other rigged chains and ropes too, are a few around that can be repurposed, even rigged whips

    http://www.daz3d.com/articles-of-punishment a nice selection

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  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,576
    edited November 2016

    By the way Silent Winter, the Horse 2 Pro Bundle is currently available for just $4 if bought with a new release (including any cheap PC+ release), so you might want to ask for some store credit, as I doubt you got it that cheap.

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  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,311

    Rather a lot of people add the reins by postwork. Reins are a problem with pretty much all horse models. Although the Hivewire riding tack is better than most.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479

    I used the bridle and reins from English Saddle for DAZ Horse 2 in a recent render, (Yee-Haw, for the 2016 PC Render Contest,) and I used multiple D-Forms to create two morphs, one to force the reins close to the horse's neck, and and one to push the loop together and bend it forward so Santa could grasp them. (If you look at the image, the end of the reins is peeking out of his fist.) I was able to get the headgear to fit the rocking horse by tweaking the scale parameters, and by using smoothing and colliding with the rocking horse.

    I've yet to tackle the task of making the harness that came with Royal Carriages for Millennium Horse work with Horse 2, even though that's the only reason I bought it.

  • Silent WinterSilent Winter Posts: 3,872
    edited November 2016
    Havos said:

    The http://www.daz3d.com/i13-greek-chariot comes with a proper harness for the driver, and this is designed for DAZ Horse 2. In theory the same harness could be used for other carts, it contains a number of morphs to help you pose it.

    Cool - that might work, thanks :)

    Havos said:

    By the way Silent Winter, the Horse 2 Pro Bundle is currently available for just $4 if bought with a new release (including any cheap PC+ release), so you might want to ask for some store credit, as I doubt you got it that cheap.

    How are you getting that price?  It's supposed to be 50% off with new purchase, plus additional 30% off for PC+

    You might've gotten a lucky glitch ;)

    Edit:  Just tried adding it to cart and you're right - $4 and change.  I've rebought it with another new item and will give CS a try, though I think it may still be a glitch.

    L'Adair said:

    I used the bridle and reins from English Saddle for DAZ Horse 2 in a recent render, (Yee-Haw, for the 2016 PC Render Contest,) and I used multiple D-Forms to create two morphs, one to force the reins close to the horse's neck, and and one to push the loop together and bend it forward so Santa could grasp them. (If you look at the image, the end of the reins is peeking out of his fist.) I was able to get the headgear to fit the rocking horse by tweaking the scale parameters, and by using smoothing and colliding with the rocking horse.

    I've yet to tackle the task of making the harness that came with Royal Carriages for Millennium Horse work with Horse 2, even though that's the only reason I bought it.

    Lovely render.  D-form might be the way to go for some reins.

    I considered trying to fit the original Horse harness to Horse 2 - might give it a go once I've got it all downloaded and have the time to play.  Might need to take it into Blender for the shape and then re-rig it in DS...

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  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    Silent Winter said:
     
    L'Adair said:

    I used the bridle and reins from English Saddle for DAZ Horse 2 in a recent render, (Yee-Haw, for the 2016 PC Render Contest,) and I used multiple D-Forms to create two morphs, one to force the reins close to the horse's neck, and and one to push the loop together and bend it forward so Santa could grasp them. (If you look at the image, the end of the reins is peeking out of his fist.) I was able to get the headgear to fit the rocking horse by tweaking the scale parameters, and by using smoothing and colliding with the rocking horse.

    I've yet to tackle the task of making the harness that came with Royal Carriages for Millennium Horse work with Horse 2, even though that's the only reason I bought it.

    Lovely render.  D-form might be the way to go for some reins.

    I considered trying to fit the original Horse harness to Horse 2 - might give it a go once I've got it all downloaded and have the time to play.  Might need to take it into Blender for the shape and then re-rig it in DS...

    Thank you.

    It took me a while to get comfortable with D-form, but now that I am, it can be the fastest way for me to modify things to get the functionality I need.

  • Silent WinterSilent Winter Posts: 3,872

    Having downloaded and played a little:  I can work with the reins, and the horse itself is great.  Oddly there seems to be no bump/displacement maps for it.  Up close it looks a little flat (Iray renders).  I found a 'horse noise' map - but either I'm mis-applying it or it's not that great for closeups.

    Mainly I'm only unhappy with the lack of a harness - but I can get one from another set (just shouldn't have to for "pro" bundle)

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,576
    Silent Winter said:

    Having downloaded and played a little:  I can work with the reins, and the horse itself is great.  Oddly there seems to be no bump/displacement maps for it.  Up close it looks a little flat (Iray renders).  I found a 'horse noise' map - but either I'm mis-applying it or it's not that great for closeups.

    Mainly I'm only unhappy with the lack of a harness - but I can get one from another set (just shouldn't have to for "pro" bundle)

    I remember I had to play around a fair bit with the horse skin shaders in order for them to look okay in iRay, as you said, out of the box they look very flat.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    To this day I'm astonished that the daz horse 2 skins don't have ANYTHING other than diffuse maps.

    That's... ... man, what?

    Experimenting with NGS Anagenessis with it, but even with 3DL, the lack of bump/normal/displacement/deargodwut always boggled me, particularly given how much stuff they designed with it.

     

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