Where did Headshop go?
tring01
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Was looking to add Headshop 10 to my wish list. It seems to have vanished from the Daz store. I used Google to look for it and get a 404 error for the address for the product page in Daz.
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away by looks,
Google Headshop 3D and you can find Abelone LLC
Interesting - the Mac version is still here: http://www.daz3d.com/abalone-llc
It was my understanding in another thread the author intended to remove Headshop & replace it with OneClick. At least that's what he said.
I have spotted his other product - PrintAhead - on Renderosity. May be he is moving ...
the new version must be almost ready then though the new one - one click is a stripped down simplified version of headshop so unless there's also a more advanced version with the other functions headshop has/had you'd think hs10 would still be offered
FYI - OneClick is FAR MORE advanced than HeadShop 10. Completely new technology automate everything. You still can use same manual control, though.
Product is due soon.
Good news
ok sorry thought you said elsewhere it was more simplified easier to use as you removed some aspects with the dots as some had problems using those in the past and the other features you had hair, glasses, and the 3d print thing wasn't in one click making one click at least half the price headshop was?
Wooohoooo! :) Great news! :)
it does sound a lot better easier to use didn't get 10 but had 9 and previous versions and yea did have mixed results but I did get some pretty good results too at least I liked the results, what I'd do after reimporting back into daz I'd edit the head texture in paintshop touching up getting rid of the black outline cloning in the skin texture to fill it and reimporting back into daz the reedited head texture in surfaces tab. Getting the dots to lineup sometimes was bit wonky but still did get some pretty good results for some of my characters so from your other posts this might speed it up more for us and more successful results
He did! In the other thread he said that Oneclick is simpler and made for casual users whereas Headshop 10 had higher resolution output and more tools, so something is off here!
Maybe they decided to merge the products?
He still has both products for sale on his website
I was under the impression that Headshop 10 had some advantages over one click, for example the texture size being 2048x2048 rather than 1024x1024, and also it gave you more control over the final result. If this is indeed the case, I am surprised it has been withdrawn, particularly when you consider it was only released a few months ago.
The reason why we introduced OneClick is that we were able to introduce a new technology that made such a dramatic difference that it justified a new product. This technology is the face feature auto-detection, which detects 86 separate points on a human face. This in turn enabled us to automate the whole 2D to 3D conversion process, something that in the past bedeviled half of our users, as they had to manually pick and move points (appearently it is difficult for about 50% of the people to do).
With the new technology there's no way that seomeone cannot get the right results right away and all the time. This has been the holly grail for the past 10 years (since we started to work in this field) and it is a great feeling that we finally achieved that at times we thought was impossible - a super-fast and fully automatic 2D to 3D conversion. It is built around the Genesis 2 Base figures but seem to work also for Genesis 3, which is very similar. It will not work well for already morphed figures such as derivatives of Genesis (Michael, Victoria, etc).
lol so why did you remove it from the store??
It sounds nice, but the max resolution of 1024 is half the size Headshop could do, and just one quarter of the modern Daz standard 4096. And it shows in your own promo picture, the freckles on that girl's face are blurry and barely visible. And from the looks of it has the same issue where the face is a completely different color from the rest of the skin on the head texture, as there is a very clear line on her forehead where the OneClick texture just stops. That makes it look like her face was just painted on.
Its great that it has simplicity, and I'm glad to see this improvement, but it is still not the "Holy Grail" until it can properly blend the face into the rest of the skin texture, and even better, create matching body textures. I have used photo editors for many years, and it is not that simple of a process to get other body textures to match the face and head and make them look good (not fake.) If OneClick is truly targeted at people who have little experience (as you once stated before,) it would be able to do this, because there is no way they can edit the textures on their own. Their hands will not match their face!
Well, I can see more easily the mesh matching the photograph than prior pictures and I will still buy, but do you have plans you supporting 4096x4096 texture resolutions?
The short answer is: yes. This time around we wanted to focus on ease-of-use.
Thanks.
Great news, I'll wait till this is an option then! Ease of use is great, but features and quality is more important IMO
Good news, everyone! Due to popular demand we managed to increase the output from 1024x1024 to 2048x2048! Thanks for asking:-)
Here's another 2048x2048 texture rendered with 3Delight
These look awesome!
And it's coming this Monday?
looks much better
few questions is this version going to installed via dim and or connect or download from our bought product pages, if we have both the full version of daz 4.9 as well as the beta version out now do we have to do seperate installs for both programs and also do we have to manually create any folders or copy paste any files in specific areas like we did with headshop 9 - didn't get 10 so don't know how that went
There's something I'm still not quite getting here.
In Headshop the shaping was imported as a custom morph. Thus one could just apply any compatible Daz texture.
Is that NOT possible with this new product? It seems you implied not, but I'd like a clear statement.
So, can I use a Daz texture with this new product or not? Your answer will determine if I buy.
No, you can still use DAZ textures and in most cases you will absolutely need to use DAZ textures because it's rare that a picture used to create one of these morphs is good enough and in high enough resolution to create a texture from. It will have things like shadows alway in the same place of the face no matter how your lighting is set up and so on. So yes, you can and probably should use DAZ textures.
OneClick is downloadable and comes with its own installer. There is no need to manually install anything, the installer installs everything as needed (separate installers for 32-bit and 64-bit). Caution: in all likelyhood OneClick will not work with beta versions of Studio, as betas have different naming conventions.
Will it work in version 4.8?