CPU advice AMD Sempron X2 2650
Super cheese sandwich
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I'm looking for a pc to only use the daz interface. I was looking a AMD Sempron X2 2650 (dual core 1MB cache), 4gb ram and HDD disk. 
Would I be able to use the daz interface with that? It looks like it's asking for help when the guy open chrome...
Thanks for the advice
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Might be more underpowered than you'd like, but should still run DS. Don't expect big things tho ;).
Laurie
Thanks for answer Laurie
I don't know anything about the processor, but 4GB is a pretty low RAM for using DAZ. Assuming you have a 64 bit operating system then really 8GB would be a minimum, and 16GB would be better if you were building any large scenes (ie 5+ figures, complex environment etc). I did use DAZ for some time with just 8GB, so it is doable, but you need to be more careful about preserving your resources than it you have 16 or more.
...I've been doing OK with up to 8 figures and only 10.7 GB (actually 12 but subtracting what the OS and system utilities take up). Veiwport gets sluggish at times and rendering in Iray can take several hours (as I have to render in CPU mode since i have an old 1 GB GPU) but it gets the job done. One of the scenes I have when loaded into Daz takes up 8.9 GB but only takes about 5 hours to render.
I used Poser for years with 6 gigs of ram and a dual core Intel proc just fine and DS handles ram much better than Poser does. Just won't be the snappiest thing in the world ;). It would be at the very bottom threshold of hardware that I would bother to try and run something like DS on tho.
Laurie
I wouldn't use any AMD CPU because I'm expecting them to declare any day now.
No, I shouldn't be so unyielding. I would use an AMD CPU, and the first thing I'd do is type my resume and get a second job so that I can afford at least an i5 or i7 processor with no less than 32 GB Ram, a couple-terabyte SSD, and at least one middle-of-the-road Nvidia GPU for iRay rendering.
This may sound harsh, but if you cheap out on your rig, you're kind of cheaping out on yourself; especially in the beginning when you're just learning.
I get it that some folks can't afford superfast. But slow computers tend to chase people away from the learning process. Just my opinion, and your mileage may vary, yadda yadda yadda...
Is this a prebuilt system? The processor is the lower end one they sell and in the performance range of Intel Atom and Celeron processors. While it should work, it may feel slow, especially with 4gb ram.
No, it WILL be slow, especially w/ 4GB RAM. I'll reiterate to all that I think this is an "avoid".
AMD is hurting, and part of it is due to their deep cuts in recent years to their Research and Development. Kill R&D and you'll also kill your future. Right now I think AMD's best bet is to put itself up for sale and hope the new owners won't part them out like some poor sad Frankenstein's monster who didn't survive the jumper-cable phase of the process.
If you can't get the company back to profitability, then it's only a matter of time. I say AMD will have to declare bankruptcy in 2017 or 2018. If I'm right, then it will do NOTHING GOOD for the development of new products or for servicing the current line. Dead dinosaur walking; avoid at all cost.
Super Cheese you have a AM1 socket processor. It is possible to upgrade to a 4 core AMD Athlon 5370 APU AM1 AD5370JAHMBOX $49 on Amazon. If you can afford it I would get a used Lenovo Thinkstation S30 Workstation. I just bought one on ebay for about $170 with shipping. This is not simple desktop computer. It has a Intel X79 Socket 2011 motherboard capable of using up to a 14 core Intel E-series Xeon processor with 8 memory slots. There was a huge dump of high end server processors and the xenon E-2670 seems to be the sweet spot on the market, and this means buying consumer grade Intel i7 right now is a bad investment because it is way too expensive and you can get a very high end Enterpise level processor with more cores and bigger on die cashe for under $150 dollars if you are paitent and wait for the deal. Also with these workstations can get a good deal on ddr3 ecc ram. 32 or 64 gigs of ecc ddr3 ram is really reasonable right now. Hope this helps you.
...as I've been reading in the tech journals AMD is looking to release both a 16 core and 32 core CPU both with symmetrical hyperthreading, the latter which will support octo channel memory.
Not quite dead yet.
Thanks for all the answers!
I never said it was dead now. I only said it's an "avoid". "Dead dinosaur walking" means it's dead but doesn't know it yet. Literary license. A play on "dead man walking", not a literal claim; further supported by my reference to bankruptcy yet to come. I'm surprised that you didn't pick up what I was laying down there.
Anyway, AMD's problems are so deep that a new product line that is anything less than a massive home run will not save AMD. I just don't see this new one being a massive home run; especially if it requires people to buy a new motherboard and new memory that are not compatible with Intel equipment. If you are price-sensitive, I suggest you'd be better off NOT getting AMD because you'd be taking an unreasonable chance that there might not be support in a few years.
AMD performance is terrible compared to Intel and is not balanced by cheaper price. It has been a VERY long time since AMD has come out favorable against Intel, in any measurable way. The key for me is the deep cuts in R&D. Anybody who does that is killing their company's pipeline.
...yeah but 1,600$ for a 10 core (20 thread) i7 to have enough CPU threads to handle heavy rendering calculations if the process drops out of VRAM, who here can afford that?