OT Poser on Sale is $49 worth it?
IceDragonArt
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I know that many of you use both Poser and Daz Studio and I just wanted to find out if that is a good price or should I wait a bit longer? And just how different is Poser from Studio? I am very interested in the cloth room for instance and the ability to drape clothing I have hear about. And the fact that I can drape clothing then move things over to Studio.
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As a Daz Studio user who occasionally goes into Poser, I can say that, for that price, it could be a good addition to your 3-D toolbox. I use it for the morph brush, as well as the dynamic cloth options. The morph brush allows me much more control than D-Forms in Daz Studio, so I can alter a model without going into a dedicated modeling program [still not there yet]. For dynamic cloth, I've mostly just been draping blankets over people, but someday I'll make someone sit in a skirt. :p I find the Poser interface odd, and I don't use about 90% of the program, but I bought Poser 10 for ~$100.00 two years ago, and I can definitely say I've gotten my money's worth.
The good thing about Poser is that there are scads of tutorials, both in text and video, to guide you, so the documentation is more robust than that for Studio. I have some recommendations for dynamic cloth and morphing tool tutorials if you're interested.
--MW
I would be interested actually. I didn't realize it had a morphing brush either, I would most definitely be interested in that as well, as that is something on my list of things to learn.
Oh and how many computers can I put this on? I usually try and put my stuff on my main pc and my laptop.
The morph brush is the main thing that I wish I could carry over to DS from Poser ;). I used it a lot :)
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Well, that kind of sucks lol. Oh well, that's fine, I will just not be able to take it with me when we go camping and stuff.
I used to use Poser to drap dynamic items, but since that rendo script arrived that lets you drape anything in DS, I have not used Poser for this. The DS drapping has some strange quirks, but I personally prefer it to the Poser version.
I did you Poser today to import an obj file that for some reason would not import into DS. I then saved it out as a pp2 file and exported into DS.
Only you can judge whether these things are worth $50 to you or not. If you are only using it for dynamic draps then you could always pick up an older version (there are some very cheap deals around I believe), since the dynamics in Poser have not been improved for many years, so an older version will give you the same drapping power as the latest version.
Thank you Havos, I am going to have to track that down.
You can have it installed in two different machines; but you can't use them at the same time. In my case I do development in one machine and test in another machine. The test machine is "clean" of other products so I can detect errors easily. While I test I cannot have Poser opened in the development machine or it gives me a warning and doesn't let me use it. I do the same with DAZ Studio.
Oh I wouldn't have them both running at the same time. But I do like to take my laptop upstairs if I am sick or if my husband is watching something I am not particularly interested in, or if I just want to get under warm covers in the winter lol. If I can do that, then I am happy.
I have used poser since version 5 to the latest and honestly, I really don't open it much anymore. After using DS so much, I find the UI clunky and a pain to navigate now. I never really got along with the morphing brush or the node based material room, but loved the dynamics in the cloth room. But now with the rendo dynamic script, I am pretty much DS only and will pass on future versions of Poser. I actually won a copy of Poser 10 last year at Rendo as an xmas present, but I already had Poser Pro 2014 installed, LOL.
Personally not a fan of poser. Not being able to use gen 3 and a horrible store with amateur products, failure really to move beyond gen 4 weird clunky interface. I would save your money
I bought the Pro version when it was on sale for $99 last month, mostly to check out the new Blender render engine. Haven't got it installed yet though.
With 2016 they've changed it to three:
"We offer activation on 3 machines/OS installations concurrently.
We still have our 'like a book' policy. If you purchase one seat, one person can use the software at one time. What is different now is that you can install and activate on up to three machines or OS installations."
http://my.smithmicro.com/poser-pro-11-system-requirements.html
What I suspect is that this blow-out sale is the harbinger of the launch of Poser 12.
I've got poser 10 on my old desktop has the ability to import face photos/textures onto the characters like headshop and others never really gave it much of a chance really fely more comfortable with daz and to me even back then daz had way more better looking content which is probably why you always see poser users wanting more daz content being poser compatible there are a lot of places that sell poser content btw just gotta find it but poser does have a lot of direct links to many of these stores in the program. I also find the controls in daz a lot easier to use than poser but again I never really put much time into it as another reason I didn't was it kept on crashing on me
If you are only looking to drape cloth and clothing, you may be better off learning how to do it in Blender instead.
i heard its better for animation.
true ?
if yes
which version for animation ?
I asked about this before I purchased, the Poser people in the Rendo forum seemed to be pretty convinced that it will probably take about a year before 12 is out. And they probably have to come up with something extraordinary this time to keep up the sales, so it may take longer than usual (just my guess). A new interface would probably be a hit but I'm not holding my breath.
Given a lot of Poser's users are long timers who are well accustomed to Poser's current interface, I suspect they would not want a new one, indeed it is having to learn a new interface that keeps many of them from switching to DS.
I've been using Poser since version 1 and I still consider it to be the most inhumanly, diabolically horrible interface ever thrown together. As a professional graphic artist who uses most of the Adobe programs daily, Poser's UI is counterintuitive. I've bitched, whined and complained about it so often that they now ignore me. Daz's is much better, more efficient, much more intuitive, and easy to arrange via it's nesting pallets on multiple monitors (much like Adobe's stuff). Posers 'rooms' are the stupidest thing I can think of. Despite that, and all the other eighty ba-zillion things I hate about Poser, I now use it instead of Daz because they finally have a stable release (after how many years?). Real functioning dynamics, real functioning IK, animation that's almost brilliant, reams of tutorials and a few actual books coupled with users who've been hacking it for two decades means I can do pretty much anything with it.
But geez...that hideous interface...I almost barf when I use it.
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Starting out with Poser I used to think that too, but after playing with DS long enough to get beyond the "confused" state it I realized how much easier it is to work with.
If you have a need for the morph brush or the relatively easier dynamic cloth mechanics, then maybe. Poser also offers a few more options with rendering (especially for mimicking lineart) so that's something to consider.
But I've never found Poser to be worth the price with that non-user friendly interface. Also, I was late to the 3d game, so I pretty much am a Genesis 1 baby, which never worked as well in Poser as it does natively with DAZ Studio.
So what's the name of the script, Havos? Or the name of the artist? I've tried searching for it, but I'm not finding it.
Thanks.
I bought Poser 10 like a year ago only to find out I have no use for it.
And since Genesis 3 is pretty much Daz Studio exclusive, I really doubt I will ever give Poser a try.
But for that price I would actually be interested in tinkering in the latest version of Poser to see what it has to offer : )
VWD Cloth And Hair by VirtualWordDynamics; you'd need the Daz Studio bridge for VWD Cloth and Hair by philmot to run it in DS; there's also a Carrara bridge.
I can't tell -- does this discounted version of Poser have the fit room where you can put any figure's conforming clothing on any other figure, assuming you can get the figures into Poser? That would be great for fitting clothing to figures like Mankahoo's Bod or Nursoda's Telka, who have very little.
--MW
I'd really like to know the specific differences between Poser 11 and Poser 11 Pro. When I look at demo stuff on the site that really impresses me, it seems that it was all done with Poser 11 Pro.
Hi,i was thinking of buying this so looked into it.The discounted Poser11 does not have the fitting room.There is a Pdf on Smith Micro site comparing all the versions.I would link but I dont know if i am allowed to link to a rival site.
Thanks for the info.
--MW