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Elianeck just told me the drapes are Jepe's Genesis 2 Male product oh that's her first light set used too btw
Well, that's just it... I hardly ever see something included in the bundles which seem a 'must'. Almost always, there are things which I might find desirable, but have no real immediate use for, so can hardly ever justify the additional cost. I know those individual things will be on discount at a later time, so just wish-list the ones I like.
In the case of Lilith 7, the Fallen Goddess set of poses are useful for stuff I'm doing right now, but since they're so insanely cheap as a combined purchase (£3.73 with the PC voucher), it's not worth getting the Starter or Pro bundles, just for that. There are some nice other items, but none of those are relevant to my immediate needs and... Y'know... There's been a sale, so my finances are not at their healthiest. :)
I'm not going to lie, as much as I love my Lilith lore, this one has quite a few interesting promos, but what concerns me is that most of them heavily involve kit-bashing. Like, I saw her base promo and thought "Holy hell! That outfit looks amazing!" only to not be able to spot anything with those drapes in the Pro Bundle. Meanwhile, I love her skin and face in the Fallen Goddess Poses and Maxi Dress renders, only to once again, find them absent in the bundles. So, my only sliver hope for the character is that it's a something that may get released either later this week or next if it's just not another morph mixture.
I like Lilith 7 much better than L6. Lilith 7 has a lot of characteristics you don't find on other figures. I changed her a bit (I found the hips too big, and the nose tip depth is too much for my taste), but on the whole I am delighted! The make-ups are fine, though I am missing separate lip colours and eye make-ups. One could expect more textures for the quite expensive DAZ base figures.
I don't like Lilith's bundles: The hair, the clothes - their styles don't look as if they were made for her. Why, e.g., must an adult woman wear a teenager outfit like Gone Girl? It's really a nice set, but not for Lilith. I was not too excited about the characters - one is nice, but something you saw a thousand times before, the other looks a bit strange; the face is disproportionally big for the head size.
We are in fact getting a Monique 7. Her FBMs have been popping-up in recent items.
yes it is the artist/vendor that rendered it Elianeck informed me it was his genesis 2 male version of the drapes
she also just confirmed it on deviantart. I think that the fabric itself is from another shader set through.
+1
While I think kit-bashing in promos can serve a purpose, there comes a point when there can be too much of it, particularly when you're selling a bundle and a certain percentage of the promos incorporate items not in that bundle. For instance the most prominent and befitting hair piece in the promos for Lilith 7 is not a hair style in the bundles at all. One almost gets the idea that no one was really sure what image they were going for with the character so they just went with a shotgun approach.
Here is a Llilith 6 & 7 side-by-side comparison.
On the fence.
Never got Lilith 6, but the lore is interesting, but the package doesn't reflect the lore, it's another G3 product, and not different enough to make me get it now.
I was impressed the the various shape prome, but as I rarely use shapes as-is, not really important; I go for skin textures, and the included items, and underwhelmed.
I've no credit, so have decided not to.
There is always another sale, and over time, the packs can only get cheaper.
Reposted from the discussion over in the PC+ members thread:
I am inordinately grateful to get a set of promos that isn't all but useless due to the overloaded makeup. This one shows at least one clean face. Thank you!
I like the morph (I just about always like the morph). Very strong facial features, without being harsh. And the Shiloh character has to be one of the least "generic" add-on characters I've seen in a bundle in dunnowhen. And it's about time we started getting a few promos of the results of mixing the character bases. I'm not overwhelmed by the either of the hairs, but they are both nice, and look highly usable.
The clothing is an unexpectedly mixed bag. Admittedly, I never found any use at all from Lilith 6's bundle outfits, and I can see getting potential use out of most of these. I guess it would be Lilith who gets lumbered with something gratuitously bizarre like the caged belle getup (although even that seems to have usable pieces). But otherwise; a really nice formal gown with an interesting transmap, and one of Mada's lovely fantasy outfits. I admit that I don't get the association of "Lilith" with contemporary streetwear, but that set has a lot of various pieces which will probably all get used. Like Sunny's bundle, everything here seems to be mostly functional.
Impression largely influenced by promos. She strikes me as a sorceress who's carved a kingdom for herself and now spends her days as queen. Late 40's, not adventuring any more, but still capable if she needs to be.
I don't need her in my runtime atm, but can see a possible use in the future.
I'm curious about Shiloh though. Are there any examples of her without Lilith getting used?
I really like the look of Lilith 7. She looks like she'll fight right in with my favourites of Rune and Gia. Not sure I'll pick up either of the bundles, though, as there's not much there I want or need.
Seriously! I'm in love with that figure in the promo!
Oh my god she is gorgeous!
Daz truly did not disappoint : )
Lilith 6 was my favorite G2F model and when I saw Lilith 7 I was like "here she is, here's my girl" : )
Great morph, beautiful skin, there is just ONE tiny detail..........why do her no make-up lips have these tiny little bumps?
On the lipsticks it looks like some sort of fairy dust effect but on natural lips it just looks like a weird rash :( :D
Will probably get her during the catch up sale : )
I also do not mind the theme change. She went from sexy demonic sucubuss to a dark pagan seductress and that's okay with me!
I am personnally highly pleased with the arm ribbons of the Morrigan outfit. They seem like the perfect addition to many sleeveless dresses.
I really don't like her facial features, too masculine and harsh, as is the makeup. And then she has this voluptuous butt and thighs that don't go with her sharp facial features... If her face was rounder and more femine, with more classic makeup, the butt and thighs would be nice for pin-ups. Of course they can be dialed in separately, but I don't think I'd ever use any part of her face for any reason. And I have a ton of morphs, can make my own round butt.... I love the caged dress though! And you can use it as a corset too :) I like the hairs, but Bonnie hair is not showing to be on sale... I didn't like Aiko 7 though either until some PA's created some great morphs for her, so on the fence... May just get the dress and hairs and wait till she's on super sale eventually or even free like Bethany... I'm not sure who creates these Daz original figures, but of the G3's, the only face I really love is V7 with Rune coming in second. I think the G2s actually had much more attractive faces...
I'm downloading her Pro Bundle right now. Except her Fallen Goddess poses aren't downloading through DIM. It just says "Download Failed".
Just one observation. Lilith 7 doesn't have any MATS for Red/Evil/Demon eyes in her materials. I know that others characters do have those Mats included, but it just seems a bit wrong to not include them for a succubus character.
As someone that rarely buys any DAZ addon characaters I have to admit I like the details in this one. The morph is a little too plump for my tastes, but that's an easy fix. I like the promo with the mix of other figures in it, gives me a much better idea what to expect since that would be my use for her also. I may have to end up getting this one.
I just picked up Shilo without Lillith, I will try and do a render later tonight if someone doesn't beat me to it .
The lack of the base morph tends to show up more in the body than the face, but it will be interesting to compare them.
I'm still on the fence about Lilith 7. Love her body and skin, but she does look to be suffering from a case of RBF (resting female dog face) and her elongated eyes break the realism for me. Perhaps with the HD morph they would look better. I may make up my own mini bundle with the base and a couple of outfits. At least with the 50% sale that's a viable option.
One thing I DON'T see is any hint of a male partner to be released later this month. i.e., no hint that buying Lilith or her bundles counts toward any kind of discount on Lucien or any other upcoming character base.
They haven't done that kind of offer for quite awhile now.
Maybe Lucian will be Novembers release?
Did someone buy Lillith 7 yet? I don't feel very inclined to do that, to be honest, since the bundles seemed very unexpressive. Furthermore, I bought Sunny7's pro bundle and I gotta say I'm a little disappointed with Sunny's textures (although I do like her overall), since they seem much more homogeneous than Victoria's. And she doesn't even have normal maps, which is something I just can't understand.
Does someone have more information about this to comment?
I've got a feeling that Lucien will be Monique's counterpart... I have no idea why I think that and (hopefully) I'm wrong.
Although, I assume that if Lilith 7 was going to be a standalone model, she would've been released later in the month/mid-month (like Sunny 7 - Then again, I'm probably wrong about that too :p)
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I don't own all of the Genesis 3 base characters, but of all the ones I do have, Lilith 7 is the first I've seen where the character's thumbnail in the content library is wearing hair that is not included in the pro bundle. Does anyone know what hair she has in the thumbnail? Also, I don't see the collar she is wearing in any of the content in the pro bundle, does anyone know where that's from?