Transfer Utility

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• gederix Posts: 390

  August 2016

  You should be able to find it under window->panes.
• FSMCDesigns Posts: 12,844

  August 2016

  Modeling the clothing mesh is the easy part IMO. getting the transfer utility to rig it properly is a whole other issue.

  I am still using 4.8 so the transfer utility is at EDIT > object/figure > transfer Utility for me
• Ivy Posts: 7,165

  August 2016

  to find transfer utility in Daz 4.9 there are 2 places.

  The one you want the mesh transfer utility  can be found at   Edit> Object> Transfer utility ( its the first one on the list of the drop down menu )

  The second one used for conforming items or figure rigging transfers can be found  at  Edit> Figure> Transfer Utility ( again its the first one on the list of the drop down menu )

  I hope that helps.
• 3Diva Posts: 11,974

  August 2016 edited August 2016

  Forgive the newbie question, but what is the "Transfer Utility" for?

  Post edited by 3Diva on August 2016
• fixmypcmike Posts: 19,692

  August 2016

  Transfers the rigging from a weight-mapped figure to clothing or whatever to make it conforming.
• mindsong Posts: 1,725

  August 2016 edited August 2016

  Acting like I know what I'm talking about, and happy to be corrected here:

  (and not as a 'correction' to @fixmypcmike, who is dead on correct in his description and terminology, nor patronizing to @divamakeup, who prolly knows most of this stuff better than I)

  In newbee language, with the following 'not-so-obvious' industry definitions:

     - figure = a 3D mesh (net) containing 'bones' or a skeleton, where the act of moving the bones moves the mesh too - as distinct from an unboned mesh, which is called a 'prop'. Clothing meshes without skeletons are considered props, and won't move with a figure as you'd probably like and expect, until more information is attached to those clothes (or any sort of mesh).

    - rigging = the bones that 'attach' to the mesh (much like our bones, but note that mechanical things like car parts, gears, or cabinet doors can be 'rigged' for motion with bones as well.)

    - weight-map = how 'tightly' the bones are 'attached' to the mesh (e.g. the forearm would be mapped differently than the elbow for realistic movement - an art in itself)

    - conforming = when a mesh (like a shirt) is setup to mimic the underlying character mesh (like a human or creature) to follow the same bone movements and shaping adjustments, it is said to be 'conforming' and can then follow the underlying 'figure' movement when posed and reshaped (morphed).

  With that said, the transfer utility transfers (actually copies) the bone/mesh relationship of one 'figure' (e.g V4) to another mesh figure (a dress model/mesh), so that instructions to pose or morph the first mesh (V4) can be followed by the second mesh (the dress), making it a 'conforming' item - which is what we've come to naturally expect in our character/clothing interactions. The product creators have to take the raw clothing mesh (from a modeller like Hexagon) and "Transfer(s) the rigging from a weight-mapped figure to clothing or whatever to make it conforming", or it'll just sit there. The DS 'autofit' function is doing this with non-character directed clothes using rough estimations, where a product producer can really fine-tune the mapping to a specific character (e.g. G3F) for the best results.

  The famous 'Poke Through' is a side-effect of this mapping and transferring process not being perfect (for a large number of reasons), usually showing up in extreme movements and morphs that test the ability to map multiple different meshes with the exact same 'instruction set'. It's amazing how well it works.

  Wish I knew this stuff a long time ago, as much forum reading was lost on me having no idea that a 'figure' was a very specific term (vs a 'prop').

  I hope someone finds this helpful, and again, corrections are encouraged.

   

  --ms

  Post edited by mindsong on August 2016
• Midnight_stories Posts: 4,112

  August 2016

  Another thing it can do is transfer material groups, so if you have an OBJ and redo the material groups on it, use the "Transfer Utility"

  to get the new groups!
• 3Diva Posts: 11,974

  August 2016

  Midnight_stories said:

  Another thing it can do is transfer material groups, so if you have an OBJ and redo the material groups on it, use the "Transfer Utility"

  to get the new groups!

  Oh nice! That sound handy!
• 3Diva Posts: 11,974

  August 2016

  mindsong said:

  Acting like I know what I'm talking about, and happy to be corrected here:

  (and not as a 'correction' to @fixmypcmike, who is dead on correct in his description and terminology, nor patronizing to @divamakeup, who prolly knows most of this stuff better than I)

  In newbee language, with the following 'not-so-obvious' industry definitions:

     - figure = a 3D mesh (net) containing 'bones' or a skeleton, where the act of moving the bones moves the mesh too - as distinct from an unboned mesh, which is called a 'prop'. Clothing meshes without skeletons are considered props, and won't move with a figure as you'd probably like and expect, until more information is attached to those clothes (or any sort of mesh).

    - rigging = the bones that 'attach' to the mesh (much like our bones, but note that mechanical things like car parts, gears, or cabinet doors can be 'rigged' for motion with bones as well.)

    - weight-map = how 'tightly' the bones are 'attached' to the mesh (e.g. the forearm would be mapped differently than the elbow for realistic movement - an art in itself)

    - conforming = when a mesh (like a shirt) is setup to mimic the underlying character mesh (like a human or creature) to follow the same bone movements and shaping adjustments, it is said to be 'conforming' and can then follow the underlying 'figure' movement when posed and reshaped (morphed).

  With that said, the transfer utility transfers (actually copies) the bone/mesh relationship of one 'figure' (e.g V4) to another mesh figure (a dress model/mesh), so that instructions to pose or morph the first mesh (V4) can be followed by the second mesh (the dress), making it a 'conforming' item - which is what we've come to naturally expect in our character/clothing interactions. The product creators have to take the raw clothing mesh (from a modeller like Hexagon) and "Transfer(s) the rigging from a weight-mapped figure to clothing or whatever to make it conforming", or it'll just sit there. The DS 'autofit' function is doing this with non-character directed clothes using rough estimations, where a product producer can really fine-tune the mapping to a specific character (e.g. G3F) for the best results.

  The famous 'Poke Through' is a side-effect of this mapping and transferring process not being perfect (for a large number of reasons), usually showing up in extreme movements and morphs that test the ability to map multiple different meshes with the exact same 'instruction set'. It's amazing how well it works.

  Wish I knew this stuff a long time ago, as much forum reading was lost on me having no idea that a 'figure' was a very specific term (vs a 'prop').

  I hope someone finds this helpful, and again, corrections are encouraged.

   

  --ms

  Thank you! :D This is definitely something I hope to learn more about. I appreciate you taking the time to share some of what you've learned! :)
• Mattymanx Posts: 6,996

  August 2016

  You may wnat to look at this

   

  http://www.daz3d.com/daz-studio-content-creation-mastery-part-1