Alcohol Bottles
Fragg1960
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I looked in the DAZ store, but the closest thing I could find was a product called everyday drinks. It's too generic. Are there any 3D sets out there that feature alcohol bottles that look like real bottles (like Jack Daniels, or Absolut Vodka, etc.)? I know there's visualization models for architectural renders, so are there any products like that?
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I don't know about liquor bottles but I know renderotica has a free morphing beer product on their site. Although it's not called that, it's called something like free gift or something like that.
There might be an issue with copywrite if known labels were used on the bottles. But you could probably make your own labels by changing the labels in PS. Not that hard.
Or you could create your own label texture for the bottles to use in Studio. The labels have their own texture.
Bar Italia has a good selection of bottle and can props, alcohol and soft drink. Their labels also have separate textures.
I invented all the labels in Everyday Drinks because you can't copy existing brands due to copyright. Believe me, I would love to use real labels. All I'd need to do is take quick digital pic for the label, instead of sitting for hours designing my own in Photoshop (and scratching my head trying to think up brand names - lol).
The set contains templates (8 different bottles), so you can photograph real labels and use them as textures in your own non-commercial renders.
It is not just copyright of the labels you have to worry about, quite a few companies trademark the shape of their bottles.
I remember some very realistic bottles from faveral, but that was a long time ago.
Some bottle shapes might be under copyright as well. I'm pretty sure Gordon's Gin is a unique bottle shape, as well as various liqueres. I'm not sure if something like Jack is that unique, but probably is.
There is a very "jack daniels" looking bottle on Adam Thwaites website (most-digital-creations.com) in the freebies section. I can't remember what it's called but if I remember right, the name doesn't really have much to do with the product.
Let me see now, I just saw it the other day...
Ahh yes "Free Drinks on Me" is what it's called
I think it was something with "big"....
There are some bars in the shops with bottles as probs
http://www.daz3d.com/night-bar
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/i13-dirty-dawg-bar/108407/
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/bourbon-street-bar/98189/ ; (poser)
Here's a thing. Turbosquid, a very legit sight, has no issue with selling car models like Audi, Lexus, Jeep Grand Cherokee etc. But here and at Rendo they have to "not name' their models for some fear of copywrite infringement. How come?
It's nNOT "copywrite" it's COPYRIGHT. Sorry, rant over, carry on...
The issue isn't copyright it's trademarks; and drinks companies defend them vigorously. Some people aren't afraid of issuing 3D models of real-world objects since they claim that the product is a work of art depicting the item and does not compete with it; that is true and the law may be on your side. However some companies will sue anyway and you could find yourself in court if you do it. Since it isn't hard to retexture a label it's the best way to solve the issue.
Spelling errors aside, it's not an issue of artistic licence when you use the licenced name of a commercial product as the name of your own product. We're not talking about artistic depictions but naming rights of commercial items for sale. I suppose it might come down to who has the most confidence in their lawyers at 30 paces LOL. Turbosquid therefore must have some ballsy lawyers on their team.
I posted some accessories I made from actual brands on different sites, they were taken down by the owners of their sites even though I was offering them for free and told I would need to "rebrand" them. That being said I've made liquor bottles that look like the real thing in Blender, and really didn't want to photoshop "Jim Beans" or "Porkeater Gin" or "Absolutely Vodka" because it looks stupid as hell. However I'm in a country with copyright law, apparently I can't give these out.
So why you can sell a model of a Chevy Camaro ZL1 complete with bowtie grill plate on some sites, but you can't give away a model of Channel sun glasses on the same site is an absolute mystery. I'm guessing the modeler has permission from the manufacturers, or the site is out of copyright jurisdiction, or they will take their chances.
All I know is I'm going to mix equal parts of Jim Beans, Porkeater, and as shot of Absolutey over the rocks with a dash of Tubusco™ and copyright it with the American Bartenders Association as an "infringement"
There was once a really nice guy who had the website URL ilovejackdaniels[com], where he provided free stuff for coders for (literally) years - his php cheat sheets were legendary. He must've built up a ton of traffic in that time and it was the online home where people would always know where to find him. Eventually, Jack Daniels got wind of it and made him take the lot down and abandon the domain. The scenario would probably have been a lot worse if he'd using their logo. I imagine he thinks of the stuff much less fondly now. It's really not worth going anywhere near that kind of thing unless you're prepared to see all the work you've put into it and anything positive that's come from it go straight down the drain.