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Tesla3dcorp products?

evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,482
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Any opinions?

I've avoided them so far, though some of them look good...

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    I haven't bought any. I have been burned by environments a lot, and it is tough for me to gauge how figures look in environements when the promo art doesn't show characters sitting or using the scenes. 

    In particular couches that don't bend when someone sits on the cushion, beds with no rumpled sheet morphs. Furniture with blocky foam edges....   The other thing I want is ceilings and walls that I can hide. These things arent represented here. So I haven't bought any.

     

     

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,744

    Read the size of the textures before you buy because those are all low poly models dependant more than usual on good texturing, not that high poly models aren't.

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,185

    I have most of these products on my wishlist, but I haven't bought any yet. The extremely grainy promo images are the main show-stoppers for me. I usually like seeing the finished product, not what it will look like when I start rendering.

  • evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,482
    nonesuch00 said:

    Read the size of the textures before you buy because those are all low poly models dependant more than usual on good texturing, not that high poly models aren't.

    And your evidence that they are low poly models is? This is a concern for me. I don't want non-descript slabs with mediocre UV mapping.

     

    I may buy one and test it out, return it if it is not up to snuff.

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,411

    I ended up returning the Studio Type Room (sku 30841) - the can lights hanging from the ceiling are not modeled, they're part of the texture; the walls and floor were all one item and not hideable for better camera angles. No idea on any of the others, but the limited writeup on them makes me pass.

    I will say the room looked good and if you could live withe the existing lighting and limited camera angles it renders very nicely.

  • Panzer EmeraldPanzer Emerald Posts: 727
    edited July 2016

    I bought the Laundry and Bathroom set, primarily to get a discount on something a while back. While the construction of it was really well done, it ended up being a big disappointment, because I couldn't hide any walls, which is oftentimes a dealbreaker for me. The camera angles included were okay, but not enough to salvage the set entirely. A shame, it's well-put together, but you'd be better off buying something similar from another vendor.

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  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,973

    I got three of the rooms for the apartment, becase two were on a deep discount for one of the sales a while back. They're very nice looking, but also very aggravating. 

    In an image commentary for something I did a while back, I mentioned that

    The Tesla3DCorp apartment has three separately sold rooms to the apartment that all fit together around the 0-0-0 point: kitchen and dining room, laundry and bathroom, and living room. (That shiny floor is apparently polished marble, by the by.) The apartment is built as a distinctly European (or at least not-American) style model, so the rooms are smaller and there's a different approach to them. I bought all three rooms at the same time during March Madness. The apartment assembly is very nice to look at, but knowing now what I know about it, I'd never have bought it. 
    - None of the walls of any of the rooms are separately boned, so you have to turn off opacity to see through them, and you can't manipulate through them even then, because they're still there. That alone would have been enough of a showstopper, but...
    - The bathroom/laundry is one piece. Now, I do not simply mean that the walls of that room, like the rest of the apartment, are not boned. No, no, I mean that the room, the shower, the vanity/sink, the thing which may or may not be a toilet but is definitely a bidet, the walls, the floor -- the whole thing is One. Solid. Piece. I can't open up the toilet/bidet thing to figure out what it's supposed to be. Can't close the shower. Can't do anything with the sink. One. Solid. Piece. I do not understand why Daz did not reject the room for that alone. To be fair, the bathroom doors and the washer/dryer in the laundry room are separate objects. The bathroom, oddly, has a door that opens into nowhere, which makes me suspect there will be a bedroom (which I will almost certainly not be buying) that completes the apartment.
    - On the upside, the furniture and pieces in the living room and the dining room are separately loadable, and are very nice props. Not nice enough to make up for the rest of it, on balance, but still very nice.

    The bedrooms that have appeared to complete the apartment look very nice, as I thought they would, but no way am I buying them. 

  • evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,482

    Thanks for the tips, folks. I guess I will pass and save my time... find something by i13 or someone I know and trust.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,744
    evilded777 said:
    nonesuch00 said:

    Read the size of the textures before you buy because those are all low poly models dependant more than usual on good texturing, not that high poly models aren't.

    And your evidence that they are low poly models is? This is a concern for me. I don't want non-descript slabs with mediocre UV mapping.

     

    I may buy one and test it out, return it if it is not up to snuff.

    The school audiorium's lack of seats as I was wanting to buy that one myself. I still may. Lowpoly doesn't mean they are bad, as they are basically boxes so pay attention to the textures sets.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,264
    Ati said:

    I have most of these products on my wishlist, but I haven't bought any yet. The extremely grainy promo images are the main show-stoppers for me. I usually like seeing the finished product, not what it will look like when I start rendering.

    A problem with quite a few promos from other vendors as well. I wonder why DAZ allows it, they use to be quite picky when it comes to promo quality. 

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,264
    edited July 2016

    I have the Lecture Hall, the seats are incorrectly dimensioned so a normal figure can't fit in (board is too low and collides with leg). You can scale down the figure but then the feet hovers above the floor and the table cuts into the stomach. Etc. Figure to the left is scaled down to 85%.

     

     

     

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  • Panzer EmeraldPanzer Emerald Posts: 727

    Wow. That's.... pretty bad. D: 

    I think the big red flag for me with Tesla3D's products is that, so far as I can tell, there's no figures interacting with the environments. Serene Night brought it up up earlier in the thread, but it's worth repeating, especially after seeing Taozen's renders. I wouldn't say it's inexcusable, but it's not exactly a good way to convince people to buy your product outside of simply rendering nice in Iray, tbh.

  • evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,482

    Certainly didn't start this thread to bag on the PA, but...perhaps they might see this honest criticism and improve.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,131

    Ironman i13 is an example of the right way  to promote your product with matching pose sets showing the figures in the set.

    I have bought a few i13 sets because of this even though I do not use the poses being an animator I can from them see the figures interacting and get an idea how well it suits.

    I honestly took one look at all those seats in Tesla3D's hall and thought how the hell do you fill them all even for a static image? 

    Seeing the inproportionate sizing I know now it is meant to be rendered empty cheeky

    I too do not mean to put down the vendor, there was a lot of work put in that set but it is totally unsuited for using with DAZ models of people.

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,185
    Taozen said:

    I have the Lecture Hall, the seats are incorrectly dimensioned so a normal figure can't fit in (board is too low and collides with leg).

    Oh boy... Thank you so much for this post!

    I actually have this set, and had the same problem, but until now I thought it was done by someone else... Oops... And I was kind of avoiding products from that other person... :D Ooooops... :)

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,264
    Ati said:
    Taozen said:

    I have the Lecture Hall, the seats are incorrectly dimensioned so a normal figure can't fit in (board is too low and collides with leg).

    Oh boy... Thank you so much for this post!

    I actually have this set, and had the same problem, but until now I thought it was done by someone else... Oops... And I was kind of avoiding products from that other person... :D Ooooops... :)

    I've thought of creating a ticket to see if they'd fix it, but I'm not sure if it's severe enough.

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,411
    Taozen said:
    Ati said:
    Taozen said:

    I have the Lecture Hall, the seats are incorrectly dimensioned so a normal figure can't fit in (board is too low and collides with leg).

    Oh boy... Thank you so much for this post!

    I actually have this set, and had the same problem, but until now I thought it was done by someone else... Oops... And I was kind of avoiding products from that other person... :D Ooooops... :)

    I've thought of creating a ticket to see if they'd fix it, but I'm not sure if it's severe enough.

    I've returned three products, IIRC, over the past 7 years because they just didn't work as implied. This is always an option with DAZ - and quite honestly, I'd open a complaint ticket on these even if purchased as part of a no-returns allowed sale.DAZ Q/A is usually better than this.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,264
    namffuak said:
    Taozen said:
    Ati said:
    Taozen said:

    I have the Lecture Hall, the seats are incorrectly dimensioned so a normal figure can't fit in (board is too low and collides with leg).

    Oh boy... Thank you so much for this post!

    I actually have this set, and had the same problem, but until now I thought it was done by someone else... Oops... And I was kind of avoiding products from that other person... :D Ooooops... :)

    I've thought of creating a ticket to see if they'd fix it, but I'm not sure if it's severe enough.

    I've returned three products, IIRC, over the past 7 years because they just didn't work as implied. This is always an option with DAZ - and quite honestly, I'd open a complaint ticket on these even if purchased as part of a no-returns allowed sale.DAZ Q/A is usually better than this.

    Yes, I think I'll give it a try, can hurt.

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116

    This is exactly how these desks feel in real life too. lol 

    Taozen said:

     

    I have the Lecture Hall, the seats are incorrectly dimensioned so a normal figure can't fit in (board is too low and collides with leg). You can scale down the figure but then the feet hovers above the floor and the table cuts into the stomach. Etc. Figure to the left is scaled down to 85%.

     

     

     

     

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,338

    I had five of these products on my wishlist, but I always felt suspicious without knowing why. Thanks for the heads up.

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