Microsoft Announces Monthly Fee on Win 10 Enterprise Edition

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  • argel1200argel1200 Posts: 760

    I tried to switch from Ptohtoshop. Was uings PaintShop Pro for a couple years. But it did not scale well -- the more layers, the slower it got. Especially problematic when working on artwork meant for print. Professional level printing is one of the reasons I gave up on GIMP. Photoshop is meant for professionals and sold that way. If their main business was hobbiests they would have kept a standalone version of Phtoshop around. The subscription model Adobe is using is not a big deal to businesses, at least once ytou get past SOHO (small office/home office). And the Photoshop + Lightroom cost is not that bad. The full CC suite is too high though unless you use several of the apps (and again, it's target is bussiness, where the price isn't as big of a deal).

    I doubt today's news is new to existing enterprise customers. Microsoft usually keeps their best customers in the loop. I do expect MIcrosoft will eventually charge for new features. If they are really cocky, maybe to keep Windows running, but hopefully they remember that whole monoply thing.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Taozen said:

    I encrypt my hard drives. If the compuer gets nicked, the thief is getting nothing off it.

    Same here.

    Likewise.

    If you don't encrypt your hard drive, it takes a few minutes to access your hard drive, even if its passworded. I've demonstrated this to friends, one of which now encrypts his hard drive.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited July 2016
    Erdehel said:
    RAMWolff said:
    Taozen said:

    I encrypt my hard drives. If the compuer gets nicked, the thief is getting nothing off it.

    Same here.

    OK.  I want to know how to do that!  Please!  Thank you! 

     

    Bitlocker for example. Works better if you have a TPM chipset in your computer. Search for disk encryption software. Bitlocker is a MS product but there others who can do that.

    It isn't better encryption with a TPM chip installed. Slightly more straightforward to set up.
    You need a professional version or better of Windows (not Home) to encrypt via Bit Locker.

    You could use third party versions; Truecrypt and its spinoff Veracrypt for example.

    There were issues with SSDs with true/vera crypt; no idea if there still is, as I use Bitlocker on Windows and whatever is included with the distro of Linux.

    I'm certainly not paying a subscription to MS, so I'll be going Linux when that happens. Hope Daz works there by then, or its Blender only.

    Post edited by nicstt on
  • PandaB5PandaB5 Posts: 251

    Thanks for the advice and info on encryption everyone - I was blisffully unaware of all of that ... I seriously learn way too slowly.

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,344
    nicstt said:
    Erdehel said:
    RAMWolff said:
    Taozen said:

    I encrypt my hard drives. If the compuer gets nicked, the thief is getting nothing off it.

    Same here.

    OK.  I want to know how to do that!  Please!  Thank you! 

     

    Bitlocker for example. Works better if you have a TPM chipset in your computer. Search for disk encryption software. Bitlocker is a MS product but there others who can do that.

    It isn't better encryption with a TPM chip installed. Slightly more straightforward to set up.
    You need a professional version or better of Windows (not Home) to encrypt via Bit Locker.

    You could use third party versions; Truecrypt and its spinoff Veracrypt for example.

    There were issues with SSDs with true/vera crypt; no idea if there still is, as I use Bitlocker on Windows and whatever is included with the distro of Linux.

    I'm certainly not paying a subscription to MS, so I'll be going Linux when that happens. Hope Daz works there by then, or its Blender only.

    So do you think VeraCrypt works pretty well?

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    edited July 2016
    argel1200 said:

     If their main business was hobbiests they would have kept a standalone version of Phtoshop around. The subscription model Adobe is using is not a big deal to businesses, at least once ytou get past SOHO (small office/home office). And the Photoshop + Lightroom cost is not that bad. The full CC suite is too high though unless you use several of the apps (and again, it's target is bussiness, where the price isn't as big of a deal).

    They do have a standalone Photoshop its called Photoshop elements 14  For a 1 time fee of $59, it  pretty much has all the same functions as CC Photoshop minus the subscription.

    Post edited by Ivy on
  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,556
    RAMWolff said:

    I see your point hon. For my work I need Photoshop. GIMP just doesn't cut it for me unfortunately.  I've alway wanted more functionality in Windows so who knows, I may upgrade to Enterprise edition eventually.  

    I use paintshop pro lot of the same features as photoshop and it's just a one off fee that subscription thing for photoshop turned me off that lot more expennsive for aussies btw already pay out enough already for other things so paying out subscriptions for other stuff like windows wouldn't leave me much money if any for my nerdy geeky habits or buying stuff here someone here has suggested several times daz should have a monthly subscription fee for it's programs and downloads from pas if that happened I'd have to give this up and just do cut paste photo manipulations instead again

  • ErdehelErdehel Posts: 386
    edited July 2016
    nicstt said:
    Erdehel said:
    RAMWolff said:
    Taozen said:

    I encrypt my hard drives. If the compuer gets nicked, the thief is getting nothing off it.

    Same here.

    OK.  I want to know how to do that!  Please!  Thank you! 

     

    Bitlocker for example. Works better if you have a TPM chipset in your computer. Search for disk encryption software. Bitlocker is a MS product but there others who can do that.

    It isn't better encryption with a TPM chip installed. Slightly more straightforward to set up.
    You need a professional version or better of Windows (not Home) to encrypt via Bit Locker.

     

    It is not that Bitlocker encrypts better with a TPM chipset but that it is more secure when you do. Without TPM chipset at one point or another the credentials are loaded in memory and can then be hacked - We've done it and it is pretty easy - It needs to be hacked while there is a running session but then again that happens more often than people imagine. With a TPM chipset the credentials are kept in the chipset and we did not succeed in cracking that chipset - which was what we expected. Just my 2 euro cents.

    Oh and just a general comment about encrypting data on a PC: If you do so then encrypt the whole disk system included unless the software you use tells otherwise. Bitlocker does that smoothly. Other products may as well but few of them use the TPM chipset. As a final note like someone said before: BACKUP!

    I can't and I won't discuss this more here in this thread. Search on the net. There is plenty information on this subject.

    Post edited by Erdehel on
  • ErdehelErdehel Posts: 386
    edited July 2016
    hjake said:

    Slightly off the topic of this thread but I have a quick question about the free Windows 10 upgrade.

    I currently have Windows 7 Pro on my computer. Will this be upgraded to Windows 10 Pro or just to the regular Windows 10 home?

    ...

    For Outlook and Office, MS is working towards a unified product/service where home users and small business will be $50 to $100 USD per year for full access to MS business products.

    ....

     

    Costs me about 90 € / year - I think it costs about the same in $US. I didn't check though. Microsoft is moving in a global trend where all things connected to the internet or in the cloud will come as a service. Either they will make you pay for it or they will flood you with advertisements= the money has to come from somewhere. As a matter of fact, many of us already use lots of 'services' like Spotify or Netflix and similar. I'm rather a geek myself so I prefer paying for software as a service because you get the bug corrections and new features without having to wait for an hypothetical next version. I can perfectly understand why some people won't accept that model. On the other hand people born after 1990 will be used to it and won't be as reluctant as people are now.

    Post edited by Erdehel on
  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    RAMWolff said:
    nicstt said:
    Erdehel said:
    RAMWolff said:
    Taozen said:

    I encrypt my hard drives. If the compuer gets nicked, the thief is getting nothing off it.

    Same here.

    OK.  I want to know how to do that!  Please!  Thank you! 

     

    Bitlocker for example. Works better if you have a TPM chipset in your computer. Search for disk encryption software. Bitlocker is a MS product but there others who can do that.

    It isn't better encryption with a TPM chip installed. Slightly more straightforward to set up.
    You need a professional version or better of Windows (not Home) to encrypt via Bit Locker.

    You could use third party versions; Truecrypt and its spinoff Veracrypt for example.

    There were issues with SSDs with true/vera crypt; no idea if there still is, as I use Bitlocker on Windows and whatever is included with the distro of Linux.

    I'm certainly not paying a subscription to MS, so I'll be going Linux when that happens. Hope Daz works there by then, or its Blender only.

    So do you think VeraCrypt works pretty well?

    It appears to works the same as Truecrypt, and can read Truecrypt drives. It has been updated though, so the reverse isn't true.

    As VeraCrypt hasn't yet been peer-reviewed, there are concerns, but stopping the casual thief from accessing data including bank accounts, email and the like seems to be well within its remit.

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,344
    nicstt said:
    RAMWolff said:
    nicstt said:
    Erdehel said:
    RAMWolff said:
    Taozen said:

    I encrypt my hard drives. If the compuer gets nicked, the thief is getting nothing off it.

    Same here.

    OK.  I want to know how to do that!  Please!  Thank you! 

     

    Bitlocker for example. Works better if you have a TPM chipset in your computer. Search for disk encryption software. Bitlocker is a MS product but there others who can do that.

    It isn't better encryption with a TPM chip installed. Slightly more straightforward to set up.
    You need a professional version or better of Windows (not Home) to encrypt via Bit Locker.

    You could use third party versions; Truecrypt and its spinoff Veracrypt for example.

    There were issues with SSDs with true/vera crypt; no idea if there still is, as I use Bitlocker on Windows and whatever is included with the distro of Linux.

    I'm certainly not paying a subscription to MS, so I'll be going Linux when that happens. Hope Daz works there by then, or its Blender only.

    So do you think VeraCrypt works pretty well?

    It appears to works the same as Truecrypt, and can read Truecrypt drives. It has been updated though, so the reverse isn't true.

    As VeraCrypt hasn't yet been peer-reviewed, there are concerns, but stopping the casual thief from accessing data including bank accounts, email and the like seems to be well within its remit.

    OK.  I may give this a consideration rather than upgrading to Windows Pro or Enterprise as that would put me in the position to fix stuff here and there on my system after the upgrade and can't do that right now.  My other question is, when using this sort of software does it require allot of time to set up and does is require that I log on to my drives each time?  I already log in to my Windows machine and that makes me feel somewhat safe but the idea of logging in twice.... YUK!  lol

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