Dragon question

I just recently read that there are no flying vertebrates with four legs.This would kind of make the DAZ Dragon anatomically incorrect Does anyone know of any dragon models where the wings are attached to the front legs unlike the DAZ dragon that has 4 legs and 2 wings?

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  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 6,069

    Here is daz's old Wyvern  http://www.daz3d.com/wyvern-2-0

    Or a morph for the new dragon to make into wyvern http://www.daz3d.com/wyverdreki-the-wyvern

     

    Rawn

  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885

    Look for Wyverns, which are usually depicted as having back legs and front wings.

    Also RawArt's Wyverdreki for Dragon 3 will convert it into such a creature, though the wings are still a little far back.
    http://www.daz3d.com/wyverdreki-the-wyvern

     

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085
    Whoa. Rawat stuff I like and haven't picked up yet?? Into wishlist you go! (I'd buy it now but looks like I might have to spring for a new machine soon)
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,056
    edited July 2016

    http://www.daz3d.com/wyvern-2-0

    OK, too slow despite the brevity of the post.

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,983

    This is perfect, love you guys

  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191

    http://www.daz3d.com/wyvern-2-0

    OK, too slow despite the brevity of the post.

    Uh, Richard, you do know that was a link to a totally different dragon so not as slow as you thought?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,056

    http://www.daz3d.com/wyvern-2-0

    OK, too slow despite the brevity of the post.

    Uh, Richard, you do know that was a link to a totally different dragon so not as slow as you thought?

    RawArt had a link to Wyvern 2.

  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191

    See, I missed that one!  I saw yours first!

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,056

    Then my labours were not in vain.

  • JonstarkJonstark Posts: 2,738

    Somehow I didn't realize there was a RawArt morph to turn Dragon 3 into a Wyvern, that's awesome.  Glad someone asked the question, gotta grab that for myself  :)

  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,078
    edited July 2016

    No offense, but what exactly is an "anatomically correct Dragon". We're already generally talking about a large creature that breathes fire. Depending on the lore you like, is also sentient, magical, immortal, etc.

    If one wants a two legged Dragon, so be it, but there's already enough "correctness" in the world without it intruding on Fantasy. If the OP was tongue in cheek, I missed it and apologize. Otherwise you may write it off as a grumpy day from an old f**t.

    BTW, I've not met a Dragon I didn''t like, even Smaug.

    Post edited by fastbike1 on
  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085
    All the dragons I'VE ever met has had six heads. You should be ashamed of your error.
  • I recall somewhere that Drakes have 2 legs and wings, while true dragons had 4 legs and wings.  It might have been Magic the Gathering.

     

    If you're dealing with Pernese dragons, I think everything native to that planet had 6 limbs.

  • Ryuu@AMcCFRyuu@AMcCF Posts: 772
    edited July 2016
    All the dragons I'VE ever met has had six heads. You should be ashamed of your error.

    Are you sure those weren't all hydras? The only dragons I knew of that had more than one head was King Gidera (3) and Tiamat (5) devil

    Post edited by Ryuu@AMcCF on
  • ValandarValandar Posts: 1,417

    In old legends and myths, dragons could be anything. Two legged no wings, four legged wings, no legs wings, four legs no wings, whatever.

    It wasn't until around the 19th century that the different body styles began to be categorized, and those categories became more and more explicit with the rise of modern fantasy.

    Effectively:

    Drake: Usually small, big cat sized or smaller, they are similar to one or more of the larger types. Examples: The Hunting Drake, AD&D Pseudodragons

    Wyvern:  Forelimbs are wings, rear limbs are legs. The tail may or may not have a poisoned stinger, spike launcher, or other tail weapon. Usually smaller than dragons but larger than drakes. Examples: The Wyvern 2.0, most "dragons" in recent movies, the Felldrake ridden by the Ringwraiths.

    Dragon: Quadroped plus wings - effectively hexapodal. The classic dragon, examples too numerous to mention.

    Wyrm: Forelimbs are present, rear limbs are not. Often has extremely ornate head horns and scales, and were the source of the idea of Western dragons as sapient, cunning, and with a hypnotic gaze. Examples would include the Norse Lindwyrms.

    Asiatic: Quadropedal with a serpentine body and no wings, and usually multiple types of head adornment such as antlers, whiskers, and catfish tendrils. Tend to be more purely supernatural than other types.

     

    Near-dragon types:

    Tarrasque: Yes, this predates AD&D. It was a hexapodal creature -called- a dragon, but did not resemble what we consider a dragon. It had six bear-like legs, a lion like head, the shell of a tortoise, and a long reptillian tail that ended in a scorpion stinger. It threatened the French region of Provence, until it was tamed by Saint Martha. She brought it back to town, and the villagers panicked and killed it - and it should be noted it did not fight back.

    Lambton Wyrm: A long, serpentine beast that may or may not have had limbs (depending on the story) and had a salamander-like head. It was capable of extremely rapid regeneration and the only way it was killed was wearing armor festooned with blades, and when it acted like a constrictor and tried to crush its slayer, it took enough damage to override its ability to heal - though its death throes slew its slayer.

     

  • algovincianalgovincian Posts: 2,664
    fastbike1 said:

    No offense, but what exactly is an "anatomically correct Dragon". We're already generally talking about a large creature that breathes fire. Depending on the lore you like, is also sentient, magical, immortal, etc.

    If one wants a two legged Dragon, so be it, but there's already enough "correctness" in the world without it intruding on Fantasy. If the OP was tongue in cheek, I missed it and apologize. Otherwise you may write it off as a grumpy day from an old f**t.

    BTW, I've not met a Dragon I didn''t like, even Smaug.

    My mind has been trained to head in a different direction whenever I see "anatomically correct" in a DAZ context. So . . . for a split second when reading this post, I was thinking "wtf - somebody wants to render dragon bits?" lol

    - Greg

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085
    From my experience with ferries, I'm sure there are many.
  • UthgardUthgard Posts: 878
    It's the internet. What really surprises me is that I have yet to see the anatomical dragon's add-on. Or for Luthbel's Cthulhu, for that matter. Please, don't correct on that account. My sanity points are so paltry, they couldn't take another hit.
  • ValandarValandar Posts: 1,417

    Cthulhu doesn't have just ONE, you know... and they're not where you think...

  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 6,067
    Valandar said:

    Cthulhu doesn't have just ONE, you know... and they're not where you think...

    That's tentacles, TENtacles not ... oh, never mind ... devilwink

  • ValandarValandar Posts: 1,417
    SimonJM said:
    Valandar said:

    Cthulhu doesn't have just ONE, you know... and they're not where you think...

    That's tentacles, TENtacles not ... oh, never mind ... devilwink

    And how do you know he's not like a spider or a starfish, where one of them is... well, the Japanese have probably guessed it...

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321
    edited July 2016

    And then there are the Dragonflies, with 4 legs and 4 wings: http://www.daz3d.com/fantasy-dragonfly

    But wait, I thought Dragonflies had six legs?

    Post edited by Petercat on
  • UthgardUthgard Posts: 878

    ... Fhtagn, guys. Just... fhtagn.

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943

    I recall somewhere that Drakes have 2 legs and wings, while true dragons had 4 legs and wings.  It might have been Magic the Gathering.

     

    If you're dealing with Pernese dragons, I think everything native to that planet had 6 limbs.

    The Pernese dragons are genetically engineered - everything is possible.

    ;o)

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    Petercat said:

    And then there are the Dragonflies, with 4 legs and 4 wings: http://www.daz3d.com/fantasy-dragonfly

    But wait, I thought Dragonflies had six legs?

    Yeah - but they have insect legs. The moment magic makes them into reptile legs, there are only four.

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