Loving the Ivan Character...Now How About Something for the Ladies?
IndigoTea
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I absolutely love the weathered, "striking, not pretty" look of the Ivan character - now how about one for G3F? All the dewy, doe-eyed 20-somethings are lovely and all, but where's my Helen Mirren, Geena Davis, Susan Sarandon, Rene Russo, Mariska Hargitay, Ming-Na Wen, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, Sigourney Weaver? All these women are over 50, many have portrayed some amazing action roles over the past few years, and I'd really like to see at least one major Daz release that reflects that, especially for Genesis 3.
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I think Zevo is about to release his aging morphs for G3.
I think Rune was supposed to be his counterpart. Sadly I doubt there will ever be a true older woman female base.
Just curious,
What would be the advantage of an older woman "base" as opposed to head /body/posture morphs and aged skin maps .
The same could be asked what is the purpose of an older male base like Ivan? In general most bases don't really do much except make it easier to dial a certain look.
I can see the advantage of a true senior base with posture and poses. Say characters in their 70s and 80's with accompanying clothing.
The cynic in me would say its a sale gimmick like "bethany6 ,Arabella 7" etc.
prepacked named and or numbered "Character Bundles"
that I could easily "dial in" myself ......... just sell me the skin maps & hair.
Remember a lot of the complaints about Ivan was that his body did not match his face. That is one benefit of an older woman base; skin maps that match. The aging morphs are nice, but they tend to work the best within a certain range, and past that you tend to get severe exaggerations. None of the morphs sets available right now are going to get you a figure that looks like a Helen Mirren, who does not look anything like a hag at 70, eventhough it's obvious that she's past the age of most of the Daz figures.
Opal was a nice figure, but I still think, FW Joanie HD is probably the best mature female figure Daz has.
Not every project calls for 20-something pinups; sometimes you need a captain, a commander-in-chief, a judge, or a doctor, someone who's believable for the project you're working on, and because we're in the 21st century, that's not always male. Dialing in a morph is fine, well, and good, but simply put, a woman in her 40's or 50's is not built like a woman in her 20s; muscles are defined differently, weight is carried differently;skin maps and generic morphs don't begin to capture any of that as well as a character that's specifically sculpted to do so. There's a vast empty chasm between Vicky X and the "kind, grandmotherly" characters I've seen on the rare occasion. Ivan is a step in that direction for the gents, but just like the Hollywood trope of casting a woman half a man's age as his romantic counterpart is tired and overdone, it's time to bring in a bit of "oomph" in the female mid-years 3D character selection as well.
3D Celebrity did a gorgeous older character years ago, and I used her quite a lot. I was very pleased to see the Bethany character (using her in a project now), as well as other physical types, but let's not stop there with representation. Take a look at that list of women above, and many more as well - I know many men who'd give a part of their anatomy to spend time with them, as they are right now.