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Have a Cigar

Fragg1960Fragg1960 Posts: 363
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Has anyone ever done a mouth morph to simulate someone having a cigar in the corner of their mouth?  Since I don't think you can partially open the mouth only in a corner, I would think this would not be possible with sliders (but then again, there are more talended folks on here than me, so I thought I'd ask).

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited July 2016

    No, and that is needed. I had a devil of a time getting that to look right in my last render. It was easier wtih gen 2 using the mouth morphs for speaking sounds, but gen 3 doesn't seem that easy.

    Post edited by Serene Night on
  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416

    Just drag the little bones on the lips around..  no morphs needed on G3.

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  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,931
    edited July 2016
    Fisty said:

    Just drag the little bones on the lips around..  no morphs needed on G3.

    Yeah it was rather easy with G3!!... the face rig has its  advantageslaugh 

    Too bad the body rig fails for animationcrying

     

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  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,931

    .........OK it was ridiculously easy with  the Genesis2 male as as well

    and he rocks for animationwink

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  • ValandarValandar Posts: 1,417
    wolf359 said:
    Fisty said:

    Just drag the little bones on the lips around..  no morphs needed on G3.

    Yeah it was rather easy with G3!!... the face rig has its  advantageslaugh 

    Too bad the body rig fails for animationcrying

     

    Erm, the way the body is rigged is actually pretty much close to industry standard for nearly every other production out there, from games to movies.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    This is useful. I hadn't thought to tweak the lips that way. =-)

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,931
    Valandar said:
    wolf359 said:
    Fisty said:

    Just drag the little bones on the lips around..  no morphs needed on G3.

    Yeah it was rather easy with G3!!... the face rig has its  advantageslaugh 

    Too bad the body rig fails for animationcrying

     

    Erm, the way the body is rigged is actually pretty much close to industry standard for nearly every other production out there, from games to movies.

    Hi two questions:
    1) Have you personally created any Character animation with genesis 3 involving locomotion??...if so please share
    ( and the one ,single ,free sexy strut tutorial aniblock that  Daz is giving away does not count)

    2) Can you Direct us to a link or article or forum post made by any Real person that  actually works in the Gaming/VFX industry that uses or  even offers an opinion the Daz genesis 3 model rig ??

  • SnowSultanSnowSultan Posts: 3,773

    Heh, yeah I have to go with Wolf on that one...try applying a free BVH file to any DAZ figure and watch the crazy legs fly. I assume that isn't industry-standard.   ;)

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533
    edited July 2016

    http://www.daz3d.com/iconic-outfit-for-genesis-3-male-s

    when you load in the cigerette prop to the mouth the mouth morphs to fit it.

    Post edited by scorpio on
  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631

    "and the one ,single ,free sexy strut tutorial aniblock that  Daz is giving away does not count"

    i did this tut when it came out

    my thoughts

    nice animation for a drunk woman

    was this intended ?

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,931
    Ruphuss said:

    "and the one ,single ,free sexy strut tutorial aniblock that  Daz is giving away does not count"

    i did this tut when it came out

    my thoughts

    nice animation for a drunk woman

    was this intended ?

    LOL !!I never actually rendered that one out.

    It seems I might  have some use ,in animation, for G3F After all
    If a client has a rush job for a tall party girl failing her field sobriety test.

     

    The problem is clearly visible if you have the graphMate plugin and 

    check the X rotation Channel of her hip.
    A womans Hips roll left & right on the X axis but do so 

    independantly of her spinal column.

    This "sultry walk  aniblock" is propagating the X axis  Left/right 

    rolling up her entire spine causing that obvious left /right teetering 

    you see when you render the animation and when you click on the 

    video tutorial link you see it has been pulled offline.

    With some manual grunt gruntwork in the grpah editor this problem 

    is not insurmountable as I have manually fixed such issues in poser 

    for years in the past
    But as My time is precious I will stick with figures that are rigged 

    correctly to accept  the standard biped motions that are compatible  

    with programs I use.

     

  • Mark C HollowayMark C Holloway Posts: 141

    Is it a Cuban cigar? wink

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,931
    Mark C Holloway said:

    Is it a Cuban cigar? wink

    Arent they technically legal now??

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,931

    Just for comparison here is a simple "every day" walk using the Genesis 2  female from a commercially available aniblock for DAZ  Studio. Note how the hips roll naturally without lateral teetering of the entire upper torso like the official G3 tutorial aniblock does with the "improved "rig of G3

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,931

    Now to address the common mantra that you "need G3 riggin for better compatibility with other programs"
    here is is the same walking motion Data from the Genesis2  aniblock
    Exported into iclone as BVH
    and converted to Imotion for one of the stock Iclone 5 avatars. in three mouse clicks
    I did not attach her to a walk path in Iclone so one can see how the correct hip roll/spine realtionship is maintained

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,931

    And lastly the same Genesis 2 animation Exported from Daz studio as FBX to our seat of Lightwave 2015.. again no manual fixing required straight export /import.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    interesting smiley

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,353

    What I would like to know is WHERE did you get the cigar?  And cigarettes for that matter.  I have some pipes and I did find a cigarette holder, but no plain cigarettes.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    Hitman outfit for genesis http://www.daz3d.com/hitman

  • srieschsriesch Posts: 4,243

    free pgmeri01 cigar m4 smartprop: http://www.sharecg.com/v/40539/related/11/Poser/CIGAR-M4-Smartprop

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,931
    I made mine in Daz studio with a cylinder primative
  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    http://www.daz3d.com/morphable-meerschaum

    has a smoke wisp

    showin as 'free' at the moment!!

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,353

    Thanks everyone!

    I do have morphable meerchaum already - it's a great product.  I grabbed the cigar off Share CG.

    Anybody know where I can find some cigarettes?

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    poseable lighter http://www.daz3d.com/lighter

    cigarette prop  http://www.daz3d.com/everyday-poses-for-stephanie-6

     

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943

    https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Smoking_Paraphernalia

     

  • Pack58Pack58 Posts: 750
    edited July 2016

    http://www.daz3d.com/pocket-filler

    https://www.daz3d.com/brennan-for-genesis

    http://www.daz3d.com/prison-visitors-room plus pose set http://www.daz3d.com/visitation-for-genesis-2

    scorpios link above: http://www.daz3d.com/iconic-outfit-for-genesis-3-male-s

    Morphing Cigarette Butt: http://www.daz3d.com/crime-scene-analysis-accessories

    There may be some info of use to you here: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/83371/cigarette-prop-ash-tray-prop

    Also many of pankos old V/M3 Vietnam sets have cigarettes and "recognizable" brand softpacks

    Post edited by Pack58 on
  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416

    http://www.daz3d.com/fatale-noir-poses-for-genesis-2-female-s

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