Rune & Ivan 7

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  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,653
    nicstt said:

    Any renders of her without makeup; warrior stuff; and definitely not wearing anything provided in the packs?

    Here's a quick render; only makeup is one of her nice, decent eyeliners (thank you, Daz, for not using Homer Simpson's makeup gun this time for the 'normal' makeups!). The eyelashes are from 'Andie for Olympia' (3DSublimeProductions); I don't like thin lashes - for men and women alike. I slanted the eyes a tiny bit, made the irises a little big bigger and increased the nose bridge depth, but nothing else was altered. I use DS 4.6, so the skin is probably much darker and more orange than the Iray skin; I'll have to adjust that.

    I love this character because Rune7 is so versatile; she doesn't deserve to be reduced to the 'Warrior Queen' stereotype. The only thing which is not perfect on her is the throat pit (see pic); it is too narrow. Maybe Daz could fix this in an update.

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  • 3delinquent3delinquent Posts: 355

    And doesn't she look good in 3delight. Great render caravelle. I think you're right about the eyelashes too, nice touch.

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,653

    And doesn't she look good in 3delight. Great render caravelle. I think you're right about the eyelashes too, nice touch.

    Thank you, 3delinquent! smiley

     

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,056
    edited June 2016
    lx said:
    - Victoria 4.2: 6'2 (according to http://www.daz3d.com/v4-shape-of-a-woman ;)

    Shape of a Woman set its sizes using the official Poser 1 unit = 8.6 feet scale, so was out for DS.

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996
    lx said:
    - Victoria 4.2: 6'2 (according to http://www.daz3d.com/v4-shape-of-a-woman ;)

    Shape of a Woman set its sizes using the official Poser 1 unit = 8.6 feet scale, so was out for DS.

    I thought it sounded bizarre, but her main page doesn't have the metrics and I couldn't be bothered installing her and measuring to check. Anyone have any idea how tall she atually is?

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,555
    edited June 2016

    gotta go to work but the render finished so here you go 3delinquent

    arabella7, bethany7, eva7, gia7, izabella7, kalea7, karen 7, mei lin 7, olympia7,  rune 7,  tj7,  vicktoria7 with genevia hair, hongyu bikini for v7 larger pic go for my link tried uploading directly here but having trouble uploading pics to forums 

    http://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/154926

    Arabella7, Bethany7, Eva7, Gia7, Izabella7, Kalea7, Karen 7, Mei Lin 7, Olympia7, Rune 7, Tj7, Vicktoria7

     

    I pointed out the HD thing in another thread where there were complaints about a lack of vascularity. Er....I don't think your image came up?

    think I saw that thread only read a little of the first post sooooooo long gotta take in account 1 this is not the hd version it's the hd addons that add that extra detail and 2 they gotta keep a balance to something that is astheticly pleasing as possible for the larger buying market as if they went all out in muscle tone and heavily veined as in extreme body builders look then the sales will be less as most while may like an athletic build in general an extreme bodybuilder look not so much so they make comprimises and come up with a balance of course there are addons pas create to remedy this for those after the extreme look

     

     

     

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  • ToyenToyen Posts: 2,029

    Can somebody post all of her make up options? I just noticed the description says:

    • 6 Make-up Options
    • 6 War Make-up Options

    So she does have regular make up? : )

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,555
    Toyen said:

    Can somebody post all of her make up options? I just noticed the description says:

    • 6 Make-up Options
    • 6 War Make-up Options

    So she does have regular make up? : )

    here's her war makeup

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  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996

    gotta go to work but the render finished so here you go 3delinquent

    arabella7, bethany7, eva7, gia7, izabella7, kalea7, karen 7, mei lin 7, olympia7,  rune 7,  tj7,  vicktoria7 with genevia hair, hongyu bikini for v7 larger pic go for my link tried uploading directly here but having trouble uploading pics to forums 

    http://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/154926

    Arabella7, Bethany7, Eva7, Gia7, Izabella7, Kalea7, Karen 7, Mei Lin 7, Olympia7, Rune 7, Tj7, Vicktoria7

     

    I pointed out the HD thing in another thread where there were complaints about a lack of vascularity. Er....I don't think your image came up?

    think I saw that thread only read a little of the first post sooooooo long gotta take in account 1 this is not the hd version it's the hd addons that add that extra detail and 2 they gotta keep a balance to something that is astheticly pleasing as possible for the larger buying market as if they went all out in muscle tone and heavily veined as in extreme body builders look then the sales will be less as most while may like an athletic build in general an extreme bodybuilder look not so much so they make comprimises and come up with a balance of course there are addons pas create to remedy this for those after the extreme look

     

     

     

    Thanks for this.

    Thoughts:

    - Rune looks really good.
    - Izabella's broken proportions look really obvious there (also she has completely different type of skin settings to the others and really stands out.)
    - I don't remember but does Olympia also have different style skin settings? I know the older G3Fs all have basically the same copypaste settings as each other.
    - We need some short girls. Or even some 'average' height girls.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,056
    lx said:
    lx said:
    - Victoria 4.2: 6'2 (according to http://www.daz3d.com/v4-shape-of-a-woman ;)

    Shape of a Woman set its sizes using the official Poser 1 unit = 8.6 feet scale, so was out for DS.

    I thought it sounded bizarre, but her main page doesn't have the metrics and I couldn't be bothered installing her and measuring to check. Anyone have any idea how tall she atually is?

    5' 10.5"

  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996
    lx said:
    lx said:
    - Victoria 4.2: 6'2 (according to http://www.daz3d.com/v4-shape-of-a-woman ;)

    Shape of a Woman set its sizes using the official Poser 1 unit = 8.6 feet scale, so was out for DS.

    I thought it sounded bizarre, but her main page doesn't have the metrics and I couldn't be bothered installing her and measuring to check. Anyone have any idea how tall she atually is?

    5' 10.5"

    Thanks, I updated the original post (not that I expect anyone to go back to it.) It's interesting that V4 & 7 are about the same height. There's a massive difference between the V5 and V5supermodel morphs in height.

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,555
    Toyen said:

    Can somebody post all of her make up options? I just noticed the description says:

    • 6 Make-up Options
    • 6 War Make-up Options

    So she does have regular make up? : )

    here's her normal makeups as you can see very subtle only really notice really close up and enlarged, also the makeup bases don't include lipstick those are seperatly added so in away you can say she has 12 makeups first fig has no makep up, then 00 makeup+00 lipstick, 01 makeup/lipstick, 02 m/l, 03 m/l, 04 m/l, and 05 m/l 

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  • ToyenToyen Posts: 2,029

    Thanks guys! : )

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,555
    lx said:

    gotta go to work but the render finished so here you go 3delinquent

    arabella7, bethany7, eva7, gia7, izabella7, kalea7, karen 7, mei lin 7, olympia7,  rune 7,  tj7,  vicktoria7 with genevia hair, hongyu bikini for v7 larger pic go for my link tried uploading directly here but having trouble uploading pics to forums 

    http://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/154926

    Arabella7, Bethany7, Eva7, Gia7, Izabella7, Kalea7, Karen 7, Mei Lin 7, Olympia7, Rune 7, Tj7, Vicktoria7

     

    I pointed out the HD thing in another thread where there were complaints about a lack of vascularity. Er....I don't think your image came up?

    think I saw that thread only read a little of the first post sooooooo long gotta take in account 1 this is not the hd version it's the hd addons that add that extra detail and 2 they gotta keep a balance to something that is astheticly pleasing as possible for the larger buying market as if they went all out in muscle tone and heavily veined as in extreme body builders look then the sales will be less as most while may like an athletic build in general an extreme bodybuilder look not so much so they make comprimises and come up with a balance of course there are addons pas create to remedy this for those after the extreme look

     

     

     

    Thanks for this.

    Thoughts:

    - Rune looks really good.
    - Izabella's broken proportions look really obvious there (also she has completely different type of skin settings to the others and really stands out.)
    - I don't remember but does Olympia also have different style skin settings? I know the older G3Fs all have basically the same copypaste settings as each other.
    - We need some short girls. Or even some 'average' height girls.

    no prob, few asked to see and since I recently bought at least all the basic g3 bases was able to except for girl7 and guy 7 don't have. Well only have the base for Olympia7 and that's like the others standard and iray legacy maps and basic makeups and high & medium translucency options but there may be extras in the bundles, also different lighting can affect the skin look as well as camera distance didn't use any lights but in the very first pic I uploaded with her, gia, olympia and the two bonus pro bundle girls she appeared to have darker skin, the g3f group one not as dark but tanned well and the closeup headshots with the makeups pale skin so its all about light, and camera distance 

  • galattgalatt Posts: 226

    gotta go to work but the render finished so here you go 3delinquent

    arabella7, bethany7, eva7, gia7, izabella7, kalea7, karen 7, mei lin 7, olympia7,  rune 7,  tj7,  vicktoria7 with genevia hair, hongyu bikini for v7 larger pic go for my link tried uploading directly here but having trouble uploading pics to forums 

    http://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/154926

    Arabella7, Bethany7, Eva7, Gia7, Izabella7, Kalea7, Karen 7, Mei Lin 7, Olympia7, Rune 7, Tj7, Vicktoria7

     

    I pointed out the HD thing in another thread where there were complaints about a lack of vascularity. Er....I don't think your image came up?

    think I saw that thread only read a little of the first post sooooooo long gotta take in account 1 this is not the hd version it's the hd addons that add that extra detail and 2 they gotta keep a balance to something that is astheticly pleasing as possible for the larger buying market as if they went all out in muscle tone and heavily veined as in extreme body builders look then the sales will be less as most while may like an athletic build in general an extreme bodybuilder look not so much so they make comprimises and come up with a balance of course there are addons pas create to remedy this for those after the extreme look

     

     

     

    Seeing them all together... there isn't that much real variety among the figures

  • RenomistaRenomista Posts: 921
    lx said:

     

    - We need some short girls. Or even some 'average' height girls.

    There is a nice Character Shape Collection of Short Girls by AliveSheCried on Rendo Called "Fun Size"

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,555
    Renomista said:
    lx said:

     

    - We need some short girls. Or even some 'average' height girls.

    There is a nice Character Shape Collection of Short Girls by AliveSheCried on Rendo Called "Fun Size"

    well you could probably maybe get something out of this http://www.daz3d.com/shapely-genesis-3-female-ii-fantasy    even though it's more aimed at fantasy styles it says besides having full presets has seperate dials to adjust the different sizes for different parts of the body and one build looks like how dwarf/midget/little person sorry I have no idea what term is acceptable anymore 

    Shapely Genesis 3 Female II - Fantasy! in People and Wearables, Genesis 3 People, Female,  3D Models by Daz 3D

  • Jan19Jan19 Posts: 1,109
    edited June 2016
    caravelle said:
    nicstt said:

    Any renders of her without makeup; warrior stuff; and definitely not wearing anything provided in the packs?

    Here's a quick render; only makeup is one of her nice, decent eyeliners (thank you, Daz, for not using Homer Simpson's makeup gun this time for the 'normal' makeups!). The eyelashes are from 'Andie for Olympia' (3DSublimeProductions); I don't like thin lashes - for men and women alike. I slanted the eyes a tiny bit, made the irises a little big bigger and increased the nose bridge depth, but nothing else was altered. I use DS 4.6, so the skin is probably much darker and more orange than the Iray skin; I'll have to adjust that.

    I love this character because Rune7 is so versatile; she doesn't deserve to be reduced to the 'Warrior Queen' stereotype. The only thing which is not perfect on her is the throat pit (see pic); it is too narrow. Maybe Daz could fix this in an update.

    I agree, I agree.  Rune 7 isn't just a warrior queen.  She's got the muscular body, but she's feminine, too. smiley  She's a fascinating character base.

    All the renders and the comparisons in this thread are good!

     

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  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,581
    galatt said:

    gotta go to work but the render finished so here you go 3delinquent

    arabella7, bethany7, eva7, gia7, izabella7, kalea7, karen 7, mei lin 7, olympia7,  rune 7,  tj7,  vicktoria7 with genevia hair, hongyu bikini for v7 larger pic go for my link tried uploading directly here but having trouble uploading pics to forums 

    http://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/154926

    Arabella7, Bethany7, Eva7, Gia7, Izabella7, Kalea7, Karen 7, Mei Lin 7, Olympia7, Rune 7, Tj7, Vicktoria7

     

    I pointed out the HD thing in another thread where there were complaints about a lack of vascularity. Er....I don't think your image came up?

    think I saw that thread only read a little of the first post sooooooo long gotta take in account 1 this is not the hd version it's the hd addons that add that extra detail and 2 they gotta keep a balance to something that is astheticly pleasing as possible for the larger buying market as if they went all out in muscle tone and heavily veined as in extreme body builders look then the sales will be less as most while may like an athletic build in general an extreme bodybuilder look not so much so they make comprimises and come up with a balance of course there are addons pas create to remedy this for those after the extreme look

     

     

     

    Seeing them all together... there isn't that much real variety among the figures

    I agree that the variety could be better, but having every girl in the same outfit, same hair and identical pose, does make them look more alike than if things were mixed up a bit.

  • IchibanIchiban Posts: 113

    Jan, which of the Painter's Lights did you use? I always get lost because there are so many options!

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,555

    and again here's  the Rune 7 Pro gals Rune, Lexi and Isa with no makeup both Lexi and Isa do have several makeups, Isa has most including some wounds 

    Havos said:
    galatt said:

    gotta go to work but the render finished so here you go 3delinquent

    arabella7, bethany7, eva7, gia7, izabella7, kalea7, karen 7, mei lin 7, olympia7,  rune 7,  tj7,  vicktoria7 with genevia hair, hongyu bikini for v7 larger pic go for my link tried uploading directly here but having trouble uploading pics to forums 

    http://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/154926

    Arabella7, Bethany7, Eva7, Gia7, Izabella7, Kalea7, Karen 7, Mei Lin 7, Olympia7, Rune 7, Tj7, Vicktoria7

     

    I pointed out the HD thing in another thread where there were complaints about a lack of vascularity. Er....I don't think your image came up?

    think I saw that thread only read a little of the first post sooooooo long gotta take in account 1 this is not the hd version it's the hd addons that add that extra detail and 2 they gotta keep a balance to something that is astheticly pleasing as possible for the larger buying market as if they went all out in muscle tone and heavily veined as in extreme body builders look then the sales will be less as most while may like an athletic build in general an extreme bodybuilder look not so much so they make comprimises and come up with a balance of course there are addons pas create to remedy this for those after the extreme look

     

     

     

    Seeing them all together... there isn't that much real variety among the figures

    I agree that the variety could be better, but having every girl in the same outfit, same hair and identical pose, does make them look more alike than if things were mixed up a bit.

    I was asked to do them like this with the same hair,pose and outfit and many often ask to see with no make up in real life though there are many people unrelated that have very similar features to each other world wide I myself have several looking clones seen and been told look of that look like me one being comic artist Joseph Michael Lindsner

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    The issue with short girls isn't just the morphs, its also the poses. You can dial "up" the height (why does going up on that dial decrease height anyway???) But the poses are also made for women 5'9 or 10. So when you create any shorter character, any pose that interacts with anything requires lots of adjustments.

    Every major figure gets a variety of pose packs along with it. If Daz took up the challenge of creating a shorter woman who is not a teenager, it would be nice to have some poses for that character. Sometimes clothing can look stretched or compact, too, if it has a design on it.

    I'm 6 feet, and my wife is 5 feet tall, on a good day. She's more like 4'11". The only characters that height in Daz are kids and very young teens. My wife isn't a teen. She's not a fantasy character from Lord of the Rings, either, though she sure can grind an ax! There are places in the world where less than 5 feet is considered AVERAGE. You sure wouldn't know this browsing the store here.

    At this point, I think its just being a bit lazy. Because making a figure that short would throw a lot of poses out of wack, and some props might not fit easy.

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,555

    your right about props and poses not all say poses made for g3f work as well or the same for all g3f's so shorter gals yeah probably would run into problems with some poses or look just weird

  • Jan19Jan19 Posts: 1,109
    edited June 2016
    Ichiban said:

    Jan, which of the Painter's Lights did you use? I always get lost because there are so many options!

    There sure are a lot of options. :-)  All of them are very dependable though, especially when it comes to the catchlight in the eye.

    I think I used one of the Classical Portrait setups -- maybe the first one.  It was a setup that didn't emphasize shadow on either side of the face.  Sort of an evenly lit setup.  Then I added the Pale Tan environment (included w/the Painter's Lights), and for a backdrop, I used the Render Studio Floor and Wall. smiley​  The color environment you choose will really make a difference, too.  If you can use your Auxiliary viewport, you can see which environment will give you the look you want, w/o having to do a test render of each.  I have to be careful w/that Aux viewport though, or DS will freeze.  My AMD video card is at fault, I am sure.

    I hope this helps!

     

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    Poses will always need adjustment unless you keep your figures close to default shape and style. With male poses I often adjust hands and feet, and arms. I don't really see a way around that since most people's taste in figures varies considerably and a lot of people customize the figures away from default.

    I personally miss some of the more neuter like pose sets from genesis which could be used for both sexes.

  • NathNath Posts: 2,941

    Poses will always need adjustment unless you keep your figures close to default shape and style. With male poses I often adjust hands and feet, and arms. I don't really see a way around that since most people's taste in figures varies considerably and a lot of people customize the figures away from default.

    I personally miss some of the more neuter like pose sets from genesis which could be used for both sexes.

    I use G3M poses for G3F half the time anyway - she has a lot less backstrain and dislocated hips that way...

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479

    Poses will always need adjustment unless you keep your figures close to default shape and style. With male poses I often adjust hands and feet, and arms. I don't really see a way around that since most people's taste in figures varies considerably and a lot of people customize the figures away from default.

    I agree. I always think of any pose as my starting point. I think I've done one render where the pose was used as is. (The male in Baggage. And the coat he's wearing had a matching morph!) I don't like my women to be as tall as the men, so any couples poses need a lot of extra work adjusting for the shorter female. (Yep. Dial down the height!)

  • BurstAngelBurstAngel Posts: 763

    Yup, can't stand couple poses where the woman seem to overpower the male trying to hold her, she always looks like a giant, makes the man look weak to me.

    And it always takes forever to ajust both male and female poses for a shorter female figure. Daz just needs to give us SP7 so PAs can can make some couples poses that actually make both figures look nice and well balanced.

  • NathNath Posts: 2,941

    Yup, can't stand couple poses where the woman seem to overpower the male trying to hold her, she always looks like a giant, makes the man look weak to me.

    And it always takes forever to ajust both male and female poses for a shorter female figure. Daz just needs to give us SP7 so PAs can can make some couples poses that actually make both figures look nice and well balanced.

    As a 1.90 m tall woman, this is one bias that DAZ has that I'm actually glad of wink

  • NathNath Posts: 2,941

    Rune, with a few small changes (muscle morphs, eyebrow shape). Render stopped at about 25%, still grainy, but I'm definitely glad I scraped the money for her.

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