Shade 3D - Have you used it?
Lotharen
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I stepped out on a limb and purchased Shade 3D. So far I've been impressed - just playing around with the program and not looking at any tutorials on how to use it, I was able to get Gen3 imported into Shade with no problems and get a decent render just playing with the program.
Right now you can get the "Introduction to Shade 3D" video tutorial free from author Adam Kuczek's Gumroad account. You have to join Gumroad, login, then place Zero dollars in 'Name a Fair Price' block, then click 'I want this!" button. An email will be sent to you with a download link and you can download all 13 chapters to get your started.
Free Video Tutorial can be found here: https://gumroad.com/l/jmbBw#
So, has anyone else picked up this program or is there anyone here with experience using it?
Links to Shade 3D's different program options:
Shade 3D Basic - http://www.daz3d.com/shade-3d-basic-ver-15-1
Shade 3D Standard - http://www.daz3d.com/shade-3d-standard-ver-15-1
Shade 3d Professional - http://www.daz3d.com/shade-3d-professional-ver-15-1
If anyone has questions just ask, Ill do my best to answer them. I'm still new to the world of 3D rendering so bear with me if I need to ask you to clarify what your asking if your jargon gets over my head lol
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I've looked at it when on sale before, but haven't bought it. Thanks for the link to the tutorial, though. Watching that migh answer some questions I had about the softare. And, I might think about getting it the next time it is on sale. I'm currently trying to figure out other programs that I have access to for free. Out of curiosity, which version of the program did you buy? I'd be interested in your impressions and what you can do with the version you bought, especially if you bought either the Basic or the Standard.
I don't see sale prices for any of the Shade 3D options.
They were discounted as part of the software sale. I don't know why, but now a 'new' tag has been added so they are no longer eligible..
@Lotharen: Thanks for the tutorial link. I only have Shade 10 which I got free one time when Mirye Software had a free 4th of July giveawy. But The tutorial may still be pretty useful.
I'm not sure why they aren't showing a sale price on their product pages. They are, however, showing on sale on the software sale pages. Well, they were, but I just double checked and for some reason they are still on the sale page, but no longer showing a discount. I'm not sure why.
I did think it was interesting that Mirye Software, the company that published Shade 3D, says they no longer publish it. I'm wondering if DAZ bought it? Anyway, if you want it, I'd send a query to CS to see what you can do about it. I don't know why it isn't showing the sale price anymore. It is still in the software sale, though. Or, at least, it was when I checked a few minutes ago. It is suppose to be 46% off.
I don't know why they would do that. They aren't new and I can't even see where they have been updated in a long time.
Mirye marketed Shade but quit some years ago when it was sold to another Japanese company and they (Mirye) evidently lost (or gave up) the rights to sell it.
I have used Shade 3D, but I'm still learning so haven't really made anything much as yet.
@knittingmommy I purchased the Professional version. So far I like the layout the best. Easy to navigate tabs make things seem more fluid. You can handle daylight much like in Octane render, with time of day, month or position the sun in what ever spot you like/want. My test renders so far have been quick - no more than 3-5 minutes in length but I'm not pushing any limits. I'm looking forward to trying out the particle effects and such.
Its very odd its not showing on sale. I purchased my copy yesterday and it gave me the correct discount. Also, when I linked to each of those versions of the program the sale price was showing then. So very strange. I would shoot CS a email if you want it for the sale price thats for sure.
Ill see if I can post a test render or two later today.
You all are welcome for the tutorial. ;) It was the lack of tutorials that really had me on the fence. Then I found that one and it pushed me to purchase the program. Really glad I did.
I have Shade 3d Standard. I bought it when it first appeared in the store and was on sale. They have their own website. I usually type in Shade 3d and then I can find the link. That Mirye link also comes up, but they no longer sell it. The website is a Japanese website, but it is in English. They have links to a bunch of tutorial videos. There are about 14 in English that explain the entire program. Then there are some fast track that just show modeling going on with only a music sound track. At first I didn't think they were useful, but then I started watching them in slow motion and I started learning things.
It kind of reminds me of Hexagon in some ways.
Well, never mind. I used it fine yesterday for the 15-20 minutes I used it. Today I'm having crashes and errors (mostly crashes). I've uninstalled, reinstalled and even reset my computer back to factory configuration and atempted on a blank slate. Updated all drivers and firm ware and still no luck. I'm at a total loss, have never had an issue with a program like this before.
Unfortunatly, I had to ask for a refund from Daz. I don't have the time or patients to spend any more time trying to figure that out. Ill use the store credit to bulk up my set/figure collection. Darn shame though.
Sorry to hear that. I have had Shade since Daz started selling it and it has never crashed or even given me a error. Sometimes I get frustrated because I don't know how to do something or can't find something simple like how to shut off snap to grid. But that's it.
You should edit the title... I'm pretty sure it's not on sale at all. I don't know if it's because it was never on sale, or because DAZ considers it new software or it's an oversight, but it doesn't seem to have been fixed yet, so its probably intentional.
If you can edit the title... You used to be able to edit titles... Well, all of us, not just you... I don't want you to think you have special powers or anything... Misunderstandings like that can lead to people running around in spandex and masks trying to right wrongs and stop runaway trains. But anyway, I don't start many threads anymore, so I probably haven't edited a title in two or more years.
Well, for all the flak I give DAZ about the wacky things that happen, at least one thing that has remained consistent over the years, is the ability to edit our posts long after we make them... This is great if you make posts with a beer in one hand or don't spellcheck your spellchecker...
Well, if you can edit the title, it might be helpful... You never know how a little thing like that could affect the world... Someone might come home from late from a bad day at work, see the title and get disappointed and in turn take it out on their cat who will get frustrated and push the other cat living there off of the balcony while it's sleeping on the railing, causing said falling feline to land on the head of young fellow passing by, the cat scratches up the mans head causing him to panic and trip over a table at the outdoor cafe', where he falls face first into a bowl of scaling hot sirachi potatoe soup, horribly scarred he retreats to the sewers and becomes a masked crime lord, hell bent on taking over the city, which he eventually does and thusly inspires more socially outcast individuals living in other cities to do the same and eventually one super evil guy rises to the top and takes over the world making everything including toilets, subscription based with ridiculous 10,000 page EULAs that strips humanity of their rights and brings on a new dark age.
I'm not saying that I'm gonna be the super evil guy who takes over the world, but I have given it a lot of thought and if it looks like that's where things are headed, I've already got a plan... So if you can edit the title, you might want to stop me now... just think of how messy it would get if you let your toilet subscription lapse...
Cheers!
Gee, Brain, what are we going to do tomorrow?
@McGyver I purchased the pro version for almost half off only 2 days ago - it 'Was' on sale....they might have accidently placed it in that catagory. Realized when I purchased it that it should not have been and removed it. Letting me keep it for that price because of the screw-up. Thats what I believe happened, honestly. I'll edit it soon, still trying to get my copy to work. Its very strange to be honest.
If you register your Shade at https://shade3d.jp/en/ you can log in an download the latest update. Don't know. But maybe that will help with your issue. I think there has been at least one update since I bought Shade from Daz.
They also have a forum where you can ask questions. Sometimes it takes a couple of days but you'll get an answer by and by.
When I bought my first copy of Poser (Poser 6, back around 2005 or so), it included, as a bonus, a copy of Shade 7. I didn't like it. I un-installed it, and haven't used it since.
Then I found Blender. And the rest, as they say, is history....
I think I got shade here but it is not installed at the moment as I forgot about it. Also doing updating computer at moment
Shade3D operates in a different mindset than other "Western" made 3D programs. It is programmed and implemented by, and for, Japanese users. Some operations that experienced users expect to be done in a specific manner happen differently (sometimes VERY differently) in Shade3D. If you are familiar with the "Japanese Way" of doing things then Shade3D becomes more understandable.
Kendall
Does the standard version have rigging? If so how well does it export rigged meshes to work with other software like Marvelous Designer, Unity and Unreal. I wish Daz would fix the export/import of rigged meshes bug but if Shade will export a rigged mesh in a format usable by other programs that could be very handy.
I don't know if this addresses your issues or not but there are some changes to FBX export/import in the DAZ Studio beta http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/dazstudio/4/change_log
That does look hopeful that they've finally done something about the busted rigging export/import after all these years. For a company whose business model is selling content it's almost like they go out of their way to make the content they sell handicapped by only being usable on one software platform.
that is the point, make it so it works in DS. While I personally would like to see this happen, in the bigger picture It scares me to think what would happen to DAZ assets if they opened it up to flawless export to other apps since there are many 3D users that wouldn't use them as legally as I would.
As for Shade, I had a version I got with Poser also awhile back and after repeated attempts at trying to grasp it, I moved on to other modeling apps.
There's nothing to stop anybody from misusing Daz assets right now if they know how to rig. Export as OBJ and import into your other program, re-rig and go.
I wish the damned import/export rigged meshes bugs was finally fixed because I'd like to be able to use Daz's rigging tools to rig my own models so they can be used in other programs.